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Comey Comes For Trump Supporters, ‘We Must Send Trump and His Mob Back to Their Dark Corner’
by Cristina Laila July 18, 2019

Fired FBI Director James Comey came for Trump supporters on Thursday and said it’s time to send Trump’s “mob back to their dark corner.”

Comey’s tweet Thursday attacking Trump supporters is in response to chants of “send her back” heard at Trump’s North Carolina rally Wednesday evening after the president brought up Dem Rep. Ilhan Omar.

Ilhan Omar, a Somali-born Democrat Congresswoman in Minnesota married her own brother to defraud US immigration, filed fraudulent tax returns and perjured herself many times according to documents and reports.
 

Ilhan Omar also supports terrorist organizations, fundraises with Hamas front group CAIR and refuses to condemn Al-Qaeda.

“We have long had ugly margins in this country, but we are a fundamentally decent people, with shared values. We treasure our identity as a nation of immigrants. With our voices and our 2020 votes, we must send Donald Trump and his mob back to their dark corner,” Comey said on Thursday.

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The more Comey talks, the more he proves Trump was right in canning him - except doing it in January, 2017 would have been better, in hindsight.
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Comey Comes For Trump Supporters, ‘We Must Send Trump and His Mob Back to Their Dark Corner’
by Cristina Laila July 18, 2019

Fired FBI Director James Comey came for Trump supporters on Thursday and said it’s time to send Trump’s “mob back to their dark corner.”

Comey’s tweet Thursday attacking Trump supporters is in response to chants of “send her back” heard at Trump’s North Carolina rally Wednesday evening after the president brought up Dem Rep. Ilhan Omar.

Ilhan Omar, a Somali-born Democrat Congresswoman in Minnesota married her own brother to defraud US immigration, filed fraudulent tax returns and perjured herself many times according to documents and reports.
 

Ilhan Omar also supports terrorist organizations, fundraises with Hamas front group CAIR and refuses to condemn Al-Qaeda.

“We have long had ugly margins in this country, but we are a fundamentally decent people, with shared values. We treasure our identity as a nation of immigrants. With our voices and our 2020 votes, we must send Donald Trump and his mob back to their dark corner,” Comey said on Thursday.

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Comey's attitude is exactly why I went from being "I can barely stomach voting for this guy but I will" to "I hope we re-elect Trump just to piss off all the right people."

I'm incensed at the attitude among educated elites that the hoi polloi who voted for Trump are so beneath them.  There's this attitude/concept that we really shouldn't be able to vote for someone unless they pass the linen-napkin standards of our betters.  That if someone is "unfit" in their view, they need to be removed.

Well, screw them even though I suppose I fall within the educated elite myself.  You don't get more votes than "ordinary" people just because of your breeding, degrees, wealth, or better manners.  I've voted GOP my entire life -- I worked for Reagans' campaign as a volunteer way back in 1980 when I was just 18.  But if the "GOP elites" torpedo Trump, I will never vote for another Republican again. 

If we end up going down the road where the GOP elites sabotage Trump, I'd rather burn the whole thing down, let the socialists take over, and take it to the mattresses.
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Why is it "elitism" to insist on tact and decorum in public discourse?     Why is it "elitism" to decry the ginning up of mobs?   

I understand perfectly well the "Eff off" attitude toward the Democrats, who are snakes in the grass.   But we can do better than Trump.   
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If we end up going down the road where the GOP elites sabotage Trump, I'd rather burn the whole thing down, let the socialists take over, and take it to the mattresses.

If we end up going down the road where the GOP elites excuse chants of "Send Them Back," I'd rather burn the whole thing down, let the socialists take over, and take it to the mattresses.
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Comey's attitude is exactly why I went from being "I can barely stomach voting for this guy but I will" to "I hope we re-elect Trump just to piss off all the right people."

I'm incensed at the attitude among educated elites that the hoi polloi who voted for Trump are so beneath them.  There's this attitude/concept that we really shouldn't be able to vote for someone unless they pass the linen-napkin standards of our betters.  That if someone is "unfit" in their view, they need to be removed.

Well, screw them even though I suppose I fall within the educated elite myself.  You don't get more votes than "ordinary" people just because of your breeding, degrees, wealth, or better manners.  I've voted GOP my entire life -- I worked for Reagans' campaign as a volunteer way back in 1980 when I was just 18.  But if the "GOP elites" torpedo Trump, I will never vote for another Republican again. 

If we end up going down the road where the GOP elites sabotage Trump, I'd rather burn the whole thing down, let the socialists take over, and take it to the mattresses.

I guess we'd better prepare for the worst, since so many of our 'allies' get the vapors over 13 seconds worth of spontaneous, if ill advised, chanting.

This while our opponents are becoming consumed by their anti semitic, racist & increasingly violent fringe.

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I guess we'd better prepare for the worst, since so many of our 'allies' get the vapors over 13 seconds worth of spontaneous, if ill advised, chanting.

This while our opponents are becoming consumed by their anti semitic, racist & increasingly violent fringe.

So we should stoop to their level?   
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So we should stoop to their level?

Maybe if we don't, we keep losing. :shrug:
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Maybe if we don't, we keep losing. :shrug:

I'd rather try to shame them regarding the tactics they employ, rather than replicate them.    Note that the shameless Dems are doing just that - accusing Republicans of excusing or encouraging mobs.       
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So we should stoop to their level?

Not sure how you got that from what I wrote, but there is a difference between refusing to play by rules of the political game they impose upon us and 'stooping to their level'.

You seem happy with the rules as they are currently enforced. I am not. You can choose to swoon over a few seconds of chanting while shrugging off the left's gross racism & violence as 'oh well thats just how they are'. I won't.

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Why is it "elitism" to insist on tact and decorum in public discourse?     Why is it "elitism" to decry the ginning up of mobs?   

I understand perfectly well the "Eff off" attitude toward the Democrats, who are snakes in the grass.   But we can do better than Trump.

Sure we can, in theory anyway.  But Trump was the nominee, which made the alternative choice in the general election something much worse.  That is, except for some of the elites in the GOP who value decorum and being a member of the "club" over principles like individual liberty, free speech, etc..  And if those particular GOP elites manage to submarine Trump for 2020 -- which will absolutely guarantee a Democrat victory because of the millions of pissed-off Trump voters who will stay home -- then I'm done.   There is no way in hell I'm supporting a party that prioritizes style and collegiality over substance.

Now, maybe your point is that there are some Republicans who believe we can 1) force Trump out as the nominee by pressuring him to quit, and then 2) win the general election with the replacement candidate.  And I agree -- some NT'ers actually believe the best way to win in 2020 is to force Trump out, though I personally believe that is borderline delusional.  Because to have any hope of 1), you'd have to absolutely trash Trump publicly, to the point where he'd become convinced (which he never would anyway...) that his only choice is to quit.  But in doing 1), you'd so piss off hordes of people who like Trump that they'd abandon you in the general election, so 2) could never happen.  Forcing Trump out would forfeit the general election, and likely led to wholesale abandonment of down-ticket Republicans by many of those Trump voters.  So, I think there are comparatively few people who actually believe that is possible to force Trump out and still win the general election.

Be that as it may, I think those people are just wrong, not rotten.  I don't resent them.

But I think the larger group of Republicans out there trying to trash Trump care much less about 2) than about 1).  They simply hate the guy, and would prefer a more "civil" Democrat win the general election than Trump, whom they personally find so odious...along with many of his supporters.  And in that group I'd put any Republican politician who either voted for Hillary, didn't vote for Trump, and/or wouldn't vote for Trump in 2020 if he was the nominee.  So the Bushes, Kasich, Flake, Romney, and the rest of that ilk.  "He's rude, so I'd rather have a socialist/statist who isn't as rude."

And like I said above, I'd rather see the party destroyed and the Democrats win than let the slow death linen napkin crowd march us all merrily down the road to serfdom.

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But I think the larger group of Republicans out there trying to trash Trump care much less about 2) than about 1).  They simply hate the guy, and would prefer a more "civil" Democrat win the general election than Trump, whom they personally find so odious...along with many of his supporters. 


What is really disgusting is those same elitists spent decades throwing red meat to those same voters - flag burning bills, gratuitous abortion, balanced budget or border security bills never intended to pass - knowing they needed the rubes on board.

When the yokels complained too loudly about the bland character of the candidates the elites offered they were browbeaten as 'unappeasables' and urged to suck it up, over and over. And for the most part they did. My how things have changed.

When Trump has left the scene the GOP elite will go right back to p*ssing on this demographic while telling them they're the salt of the earth.

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@Maj. Bill Martin , you ignore what I think is the most likely scenario -  Trump is the nominee and goes down in defeat and takes the GOP Senate majority with him.   It won't be NeverTrump Republicans who do that, but swing voters  - swing voters fed up with the tenor of political discourse.   

I want to prevent that scenario while there's still time.   Main Street Republicans must urge Trump to step down if he cannot change (yes, even at the expense of losing a portion of the mob).       
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When Trump has left the scene the GOP elite will go right back to p*ssing on this demographic while telling them they're the salt of the earth.

Trump is a blowhard who pisses me off a lot.  But at least he doesn't bend over every time the media chastizes him, and he is willing to push aggressively on immigration -- an issue on which much of the GOP has tried to sweep the concerns of the grassroots under the rug in favor of a "more enlightened" approach that depressed working class wages.

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Why is it "elitism" to insist on tact and decorum in public discourse?     Why is it "elitism" to decry the ginning up of mobs?   
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That "tact and decorum" got pumped past the bridge over 35 years ago, by the Dems. The Rs simply pretended to themselves that they could remain above the fray and be successful. Trump saw that failure and is doing differently. And rather skillfully if you realize that he's far from out of control.

Edit: Fixed typo, "35" not "305".
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Trump is a blowhard who pisses me off a lot.  But at least he doesn't bend over every time the media chastizes him, and he is willing to push aggressively on immigration -- an issue on which much of the GOP has tried to sweep the concerns of the grassroots under the rug in favor of a "more enlightened" approach that depressed working class wages.

I had never cared for the guy, hadn't since the eighties. But he keeps plowing ahead so I've had to consider that I might've been wrong about his tactics. As I was wrong about his determination to follow through on his campaign platform.
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@Maj. Bill Martin , you ignore what I think is the most likely scenario -  Trump is the nominee and goes down in defeat and takes the GOP Senate majority with him.

I'm not ignoring it.  I addressed it with my paragraph about those who want to replace Trump because they believe that's our best chance of winning the generall election.

Trump losing may well be the most likely scenario.  But Trump still has a better chance of winning than the 0% chance we'd have after 1) Republican politicians and "Wall Street Executives" publicly and relentlessly trashed Trump so as to try to destroy his support and force him to quit the race (which I'd put at less than 1% chance of success) and then 2) winning the general election after pissing off the huge numbers of Trump voters that 1) would alienate.  Moreover, given the overwhelming likelihood that Trump would not withdraw anyway, all those attacks would do would be to further trash him in the minds of swing voters and guarantee he (and Republicans in general) perform even worse in the general election.

So, Trump may not have a very good chance of winning, but he still has by far the best chance of winning over any other Republican, given the damage that would be caused by forcing Trump out.  I mean, just think of how that would look, and what Romney or whomever would be asking:

"Okay, now I know that I refused to rally around Trump while he was President, and have been spending all this time and energy trashing him.  But now that he's gone, I'm asking all you former Trump supporters to rally around me.  Because we really need to stick together now!"  That might set a world record for the most people simultaneously flipping the bird at someone.

You cannot replace Trump without permanently alienating tens of millions of people who supported him.  That is a guaranteed recipe for electoral disaster worse than anything we'd contemplate with Trump at the top of the ticket.
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I'd rather try to shame them regarding the tactics they employ, rather than replicate them.    Note that the shameless Dems are doing just that - accusing Republicans of excusing or encouraging mobs.     

You can go right ahead, it's still a free country.  Meanwhile, others will do what is necessary to win and move the ball in the direction we want.
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Comey's attitude is exactly why I went from being "I can barely stomach voting for this guy but I will" to "I hope we re-elect Trump just to piss off all the right people."
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Once I realized Trump was actually a serious candidate - sometime late in 2015 or early 2016 - I was still unthrilled by the fact that much of his business entailed government entrepreneurship, wangling government into assisting his projects. I was also skeptical of his promises, since politicians promise gold but deliver the shaft. But looking at the HORROR that was and is Hillary ... I realized that at worst Trump would be vastly less harmful.

Two and a half years into his Presidency I see Trump as having kept many promises, and worked and working to keep others. Reading deeply between the lines, Trump's streamlining regs and discarding harmful regs seems to indicate that while he worked government, he also hated "having" to do so. And understands very well how excess government regs and involvement suppresses business growth and opportunities.
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Trump is a blowhard who pisses me off a lot.  But at least he doesn't bend over every time the media chastizes him, and he is willing to push aggressively on immigration -- an issue on which much of the GOP has tried to sweep the concerns of the grassroots under the rug in favor of a "more enlightened" approach that depressed working class wages.


Trump may be a blowhard, but it's precisely what we need right now.   Milquetoast Republicans aren't going to get it done.

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Perhaps Comey was referring to those illustrious people in the administration.    Of course, so many have departed due to charges of corruption.   Perhaps Comey actually read the Mueller report.
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I'd rather try to shame them regarding the tactics they employ, rather than replicate them.    Note that the shameless Dems are doing just that - accusing Republicans of excusing or encouraging mobs.     

If your strategy for success is to shame those you concede are shameless, it seems pretty obvious that is doomed to fail.

As it has for the last 5 or so decades....

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Anyone else sickened by the face America is showing to the rest of the world these days.

I'm much less concerned about "keeping up appearances" to the rest of the world - most of which isn't worthy of licking our shoes anyway - than I am about the irretrievable loss of liberty that will result if a Democrat is elected.


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