I think you're stuck @roamer_1 You can't allow yourself to see the conservative advancements made under this President, not only in policy [...]
@Right_in_Virginia What conservative advancements? There are none that won't be gone the minute his heel crosses the white house threshold. Please DO elaborate, because I see absolutely nothing, except a corporate tax cut... A cut, unfortunately not accompanied by reigned-in spending, which can only mean printing even more money by the trillions.
That is not Conservative.
[...] but also in the reawakening of individualism and faith and family and country.
Oh baloney. Plastic banana feel-good nonsense. Likely what y'all are focused in on though - because there is nothing else.
You can't allow it because the leader does not match your expectations of what he would look like, walk like, sound like and act like, so you look at Donald Trump and see a "clown". I look at Donald Trump and see the right man for these times.
No, I can't allow it because it isn't there. What is needed in a leader is a coalition builder... what is needed is a ground game from the bottom up to install conservatives that will do the right thing. Conservatives, not Republicans entering into office with that leader's help and blessing. What is needed is to overthrow the moderates.
That ain't happening.
PSST: Your emperor is butt-nekkid. You are living in a fantasy.
You fail to see that what worked yesterday for conservatism does not work today; not because the principles are wrong, but because the conservative political strategy is old and worn and futile against a political enemy that has grown bolder under the security blankets of a blatantly politicized media and judiciary. This is what prevents you from entering a coalition with "Trumpers". You want to try the same thing over again even though it has failed for a generation. Someone once called this "insanity".
No, what I see is y'all aligned with the actual problem - the moderate wing of the Republicans - not the democrats. Y'all are so busy throwin poo at democrats and the media, that you fail to see what you've left at the handles of Republican power - The very same Republicans that have foiled conservative advance, and have been in control since just after the 94 Congress vacated.
It is Y'ALL that are doing the same old thing... and carrying water for moderate Republicans... THAT is the first reason why I have no inclination toward a coalition with Trumpers. What your coalition is is mere Republican-ism led by the moderate wing, and a NYC liberal. As I have said before, not a single conservative principle is being defended. Not a one... Proven, as I said up-thread. And all the while, corporate cronyism is rebranded as capitalism, and trillions upon trillions feed the beast - All with the cheering of your crowd, all too happy to catch candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade. And calling it conservatism. woohoo.
Liberalism is not winning by it merits. It has no merits.
It is winning because it has no opposition.
Including y'all.
Why the heck would a conservative ever join that?
What you call "bluster" I call our voice breaking through the barriers surrounding us on all sides. What you call "poking a finger in the public's eyes" I call wrestling control from the media franchise that drenches this country in lies. And I am far from alone in this thinking.
Nonsense. The media was lying long before the Tump movement came along, and it will be lying long after you're gone. You are wresting control from no one.
And I never said, btw, 'poking a finger in the public's eye'.
The fight for this nation's soul is not unfolding as you have always expected. It is far more messy, and wild, and noisy and unrelenting.
No, it is not unfolding at all. And you ain't half as wild, messy, or noisy as the Tea Party was, and without any of the gains. It is a waste of time that we don't have.
It's not happening at roundtable discussions punctuated with rings of smoke from a well used tobacco pipe. Those days are over. For now. Sorry, but it's true, so don't malign the messenger.
You really think I give a crap about round tables and pipe smoke. ROTFLMAO!!! You've got to be kidding me.
But the fight is happening. We're smack in the middle of it. And we are winning; whether or not it matches your expectation of what the battle and its leader would look like --- we are winning.
Winning WHAT? The point is the Principles of Conservatism... which have not gained an inch. Tell me - what has been won? What do we get to keep?
