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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2019, 04:07:12 pm »
Cutting government down to its proper size WILL save the Republic.

It will save it from financial ruin, to be sure.
It would also open up an entrepreneurial spirit like never before.
We've already seen during the Trump administration what lower taxes and less regulation can do.
Now, if we can just reign in that spending, Katy bar the door!

Is it around 1/5 of the GDP required to run Government?
I don't know the number, off-hand, but I know its high.

Yes, less government would benefit all.
Name something outside of the military, that government can do better than the its own citizens can?

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2019, 04:12:00 pm »
@GrouchoTex

We can do it...it's just a matter of politicians..and in some cases people wanting to do it.

Sadly, the will to do so seems to be lacking.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2019, 04:17:57 pm »
Holdonnow... I appreciate the fun,
But let's not go there...
YHWH is God.

Hence my very careful construction: "a g-d"

(I figured that that was the most non-offensive way of using it in the gag!)

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2019, 04:18:45 pm »
Hoodat wrote (in response to DCPatriot):
"Famous last words of the Weimar Republik.  Sounds like something a Democrat/Socialist/Communist would say."

Nonsense, it's what a REALIST says.

Here it is, once more, for your enjoyment:
Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

"The debt" will be repaid...
Just after the unsinkable ship has been perfected, along with the airplane that cannot fall from the sky.
Keep waitin', that day will come!

Hoodat also wrote:
"The growing debt is going to destroy our republic - not save it.  It is the single biggest threat to the future of our country."

Get your priorities straight, man.
The biggest threat to the country is the flood of illegal immigrants rushing in to the south of you. Are you blind to that?
They will almost all vote for the democrat-communists who -- when they get full control again -- will try to move the nation into a socialist precursor of the all-out communist America that is coming.

How do you feel about my "American Timeline":
2019: USA -- United States of America
2027: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
2035: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
2042:  ?????

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2019, 04:26:50 pm »
Get your priorities straight, man.
The biggest threat to the country is the flood of illegal immigrants rushing in to the south of you. Are you blind to that?


No, the biggest threat is the ones letting them come.
And don't think that the Republicans ain't complicit.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2019, 04:27:49 pm »
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 Let’s review: @realDonaldTrump calls out UNNAMED members of Congress for hateful, anti-American & anti-semitic rantings. 4 members jump up & say “It was ME!” In the South we say, “When U throw a rock over a fence, the hit dog hollers.” So hoss, these 4 admitted they did it.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2019, 04:28:59 pm »
Hoodat wrote (in response to DCPatriot):
"Famous last words of the Weimar Republik.  Sounds like something a Democrat/Socialist/Communist would say."

Nonsense, it's what a REALIST says.

Here it is, once more, for your enjoyment:
Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

"The debt" will be repaid...
Just after the unsinkable ship has been perfected, along with the airplane that cannot fall from the sky.
Keep waitin', that day will come!

Hoodat also wrote:
"The growing debt is going to destroy our republic - not save it.  It is the single biggest threat to the future of our country."

Get your priorities straight, man.
The biggest threat to the country is the flood of illegal immigrants rushing in to the south of you. Are you blind to that?
They will almost all vote for the democrat-communists who -- when they get full control again -- will try to move the nation into a socialist precursor of the all-out communist America that is coming.

How do you feel about my "American Timeline":
2019: USA -- United States of America
2027: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
2035: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
2042:  ?????


Enjoy the collapse, my friend.
You'll have earned it.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2019, 04:29:51 pm »
Hence my very careful construction: "a g-d"

(I figured that that was the most non-offensive way of using it in the gag!)

Right... and I did notice...
But I had it to deny.

Its all good.
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2019, 04:36:33 pm »
Again, I don't think you've made a convincing case that Trump caused the tribalism on the Democrat side, or the mounting radicalism.  I think it was already there, and had been accelerating since Obama staked out positions to Hillary's left in 2007-2008.  In fact, you might have the causation backwards, in that the increasing Democrat radicalism during the Obama years is what prompted so many Republicans to support the more confrontation approach of Trump in 2016.

Occupy Wall Street was a pre-Trump movement that would have been condemned by most Democrats 20 years ago.  Instead, it was either crickets or active support.  Opposition to gay marriage went from being the position of both Obama and Clinton in 2008, to being a flat disqualifier on the Democrat side.  Again, pre-Trump.  Obama went from saying in 2010 that he had a Constitution obligation to enforce immigration laws, to doing a 180 in 2014 and implementing DACA and DAPA.  Pre-Trump.  And Bernie Sanders, an avowed socialist, made his mark by attacking perceived moderates in the Democrat party, not by going after Trump.  Sanders shocking rise had nothing to do with Trump (who was just one of many GOP candidates at the time), and everything to do with radicals already in the Democrat party, or young people gravitating towards his ideas.

@Maj. Bill Martin ,  you are of course correct that socialists and extremists constituted a portion of the Democratic party prior to Trump.   What Trump has done has elevated such extremism in reaction to Trump's fierce embrace of identity politics.    Indeed,  that may be the single biggest difference between Trumpism and the Main Street conservatism practiced by the likes of Ronald Reagan -  Trump believes,  as the Dems long have,  that everyone is defined by his or her race, religion, ethnicity, etc.    Trump, like the Dems,  practices the politics of tribalism, of us vs. them.   

And what has this wrought?   Well,  the Dems have doubled down - just look at the evidence.    If you support the enforcement of immigration laws, you're a racist.   If you oppose the forced busing of schoolchildren, you're a racist.   Hell, if you support asking a citizenship question on the census, you're a racist.   The Dems believe that everyone who opposes them is the irredeemable enemy -  and hence the search for compromise and common ground is not only fruitless, but a betrayal.

I don't oppose Trump because of his policies,  which are in the main orthodox conservatism.    I oppose his re-nomination because he and the Dems are engaged in a dangerous war of tribe vs. tribe that has the potential to allow the American people to make an historic mistake, and wake up next November to find they've elected a President and Congress with a mandate to enact extremism and permanently divide this nation into warring factions.     

 
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2019, 04:40:48 pm »
Your moral superiority complex makes your ass look big.

I like big butts, and I can not lie...

Some people just have superior morality.

Jealous much?

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #110 on: July 17, 2019, 05:14:45 pm »
Reality about "Main Street" Reagan


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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #111 on: July 17, 2019, 05:34:31 pm »
I like big butts, and I can not lie...

Some people just have superior morality.

Jealous much?

LOL!   You should see the vacation fill-in girl that is doing the weather on our local FOX5 channel.

OMG....when she turns sideways in front of the 'blue screen' with her clicker....I swear you could set a wine glass on it.   :laugh:
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2019, 05:38:16 pm »
   Isn't liking Big Butts, even on women, an indication that you are from the Projects or gay or something?  Enquiring minds want to know.  :shrug:
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2019, 05:58:24 pm »
Hoodat wrote (in response to DCPatriot):
"Famous last words of the Weimar Republik.  Sounds like something a Democrat/Socialist/Communist would say."

Nonsense, it's what a REALIST says.

A realist would say that printing up $2 Trillion in new money every year to cover it's failure to control spending will lead to financial ruin, just as it has done to every country throughout history that has employed this method.  A realist would say that it is time to bring spending under control.  A realist would say that it is time to stop budgeting to Democrats everything they want and more.  A realist would say that we shouldn't be funding health care, food stamps, and housing for illegals.  A realist would say that after cutting food stamp rolls, there should be money left over at the end of the fiscal year.

None of this is happening under Trump.  Instead, we get a three year extension of Obama spending, plus a bunch of excuses from Trump sycophants on why we can't cut spending and how it is really OK to keep printing money ad infinitum just like Zimbabwe did.


"The debt" will be repaid...
Just after the unsinkable ship has been perfected, along with the airplane that cannot fall from the sky.
Keep waitin', that day will come!

Your premise is flawed.  This ship is not unsinkable.  And the debt will never be repaid when we keep adding to it every year.  It has increased by $5 trillion since Trump took office.  That's almost ¼ of our GDP.  Balance the budget one year - the debt doesn't grow.  Balance the budget for twenty years - the budget disappears.  Unfortunately, we are going in the opposite direction.  Sixty-two consecutive years of deficits.


Hoodat also wrote:
"The growing debt is going to destroy our republic - not save it.  It is the single biggest threat to the future of our country."

Get your priorities straight, man.
The biggest threat to the country is the flood of illegal immigrants rushing in to the south of you. Are you blind to that?

Hoodat also wrote that
the number of illegals caught and then released into American society has increased substantially since Trump took office.  The Administration continues to hand out free stuff to illegals as a never-ending magnet to attract more.  And when it comes to something as simple as returning a citizenship question to the US Census survey, the Trump Administration folded.

Now what were you saying about priorities?


How do you feel about my "American Timeline":
2019: USA -- United States of America
2027: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
2035: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
2042:  ?????

The key part missing there is the year where the major oil producers like Saudi Arabia decide they will no longer accept worthless US dollars for their oil but switch to another currency instead.  When that happens, there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth.  They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2019, 07:42:00 pm »
Kindly post a copy or llink  of agreed "Natural Laws."
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Natural Law was birthed w/Mankind and uncovered through reason
revealing rules of morality and order necessary for culture/society
to survive and thrive.
It's wise men included Hammurabi, Plato, Ockham, Machiavelli, Burke
and in our time the likes of Babbitt, Eliot and Kirk.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #115 on: July 17, 2019, 07:51:50 pm »
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #116 on: July 17, 2019, 08:36:49 pm »
FWIW just a few days back Adams listed people able to see the world as he does;

Trump, Mike Cernovich, Jack Prosobeic, Joe Rogan to name a few. 


It’s really nice he identifies so well with a huckster fraud, conspiracy theorist, mastermind of the ‘Rape Melania’ campaign, and reality show host who encouraged people to eat bugs and pig rectum.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2019, 12:33:45 am »
@Maj. Bill Martin ,  you are of course correct that socialists and extremists constituted a portion of the Democratic party prior to Trump.   What Trump has done has elevated such extremism in reaction to Trump's fierce embrace of identity politics.

Again, I think this is where our difference lies.  I see Democrat extremism as not only existing prior to Trump, but accelerating prior to Trump.   I truly believe they'd be in essentially the exact same place policy wise regardless of who was in the Oval Office.

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Indeed,  that may be the single biggest difference between Trumpism and the Main Street conservatism practiced by the likes of Ronald Reagan -  Trump believes,  as the Dems long have,  that everyone is defined by his or her race, religion, ethnicity, etc.    Trump, like the Dems,  practices the politics of tribalism, of us vs. them.

I don't agree that Trump believes everyone is defined by their race, ethnicity, etc..  But I do agree that he is much more likely to play "tribal", us v. them politics.  It's just that the "us" is those who believe in more or less traditional conservatism, and the "them" is the left.  And he doesn't pull any punches when criticizing them.  I also think he doesn't have the same sense of "treading lightly" that has sort of evolved in American politics on certain subjects. 

For example, Bush was sometimes referred to as a "chimp" by some on the left.  Trump has been called an orange baboon and orange orang-utan.  Now, it Trump's mind, if it's fair to call him a monkey, then it would be equally fair to refer to another politician as a monkey -- even if they were black.  He wouldn't care about the taboo/baggage that would come along with that.  So that's why I think he steps in it so often.  He really doesn't intend those things racially at all.  He's just not willing to abide by taboos that don't make sense to him.  So, he often offends.

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And what has this wrought?   Well,  the Dems have doubled down - just look at the evidence.    If you support the enforcement of immigration laws, you're a racist.   If you oppose the forced busing of schoolchildren, you're a racist.   Hell, if you support asking a citizenship question on the census, you're a racist.   The Dems believe that everyone who opposes them is the irredeemable enemy -  and hence the search for compromise and common ground is not only fruitless, but a betrayal.

See, I think they were making those exact same arguments before Trump.  So, I think Trump has had very little -- if anything -- to do with the radicalization of the left.  However, I do believe that Trump turns off some moderates, some of whom end up supporting by default Democrats they normally wouldn't support.  So while he hasn't made the Democrats any more radical, he may have made it easier for some of the radicals to win general elections.

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I oppose his re-nomination because he and the Dems are engaged in a dangerous war of tribe vs. tribe that has the potential to allow the American people to make an historic mistake, and wake up next November to find they've elected a President and Congress with a mandate to enact extremism and permanently divide this nation into warring factions.     

Given that I think the Democrats have been doing that for a long time, I'd rather we start throwing stones back there way rather than just politely letting them continually push the envelope and win by attrition.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #118 on: July 18, 2019, 04:33:19 pm »
See, I think they were making those exact same arguments before Trump.  So, I think Trump has had very little -- if anything -- to do with the radicalization of the left.  However, I do believe that Trump turns off some moderates, some of whom end up supporting by default Democrats they normally wouldn't support.  So while he hasn't made the Democrats any more radical, he may have made it easier for some of the radicals to win general elections.


I could care less if the Dems are radicalized if they aren't winning elections.   What scares me is when they are able to win elections as radicals.   And that's where Trump comes into the equation.   He is the Great Distraction that will compel folks to discount their concerns with Democrat policy proposals. 

We don't disagree on the need to "fight back" against such radicalism.    But I think we disagree on the extent to which Trump's style of fighting back has soiled the Republican and conservative brands.    There is a smart way to fight back,  and the idiotic way as shown by Trump's unnecessary resort to "racist" tropes to attack the Squad's radicalism.       
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