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Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« on: July 16, 2019, 01:09:03 am »
Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet


As usual, Scott Adams gives a very astute analysis, particularly when compared with biased media, and bonehead forum insults.


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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 01:49:40 am »
Excellent @truth_seeker .... Thanks for posting this.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 02:15:12 am »
From the video:


"President Trump always operates on the energy level .... this one tweet generated an enormous amount of energy and drove the focus to the one place the democrats do not want to focus....when they finish talking about the tweet out of context every democrat running for President will be asked "do you back Pelosi or do you back the squad"? .... Pelosi, too will be asked if she backs the squad"

"Trump is literally two moves ahead.  Move one, he loses with the tweet, it looks bad.  Move two, Republicans are embarrassed and distance themselves, so he loses with Republican support.  Move three, there is a bigger rip in the Democrats as a result of this controversy.  He has branded the Democrats with this unpopular wing of the party, and they're going to have to work this out.  That is the endgame.  After sacrificing two pieces, he will leave the Democrats critically wounded."

"The democrats will have to answer the question which team are you on?  It's a lose/lose situation"



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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2019, 02:16:57 am »
At some point grab a cup of coffee or adult beverage and listen.  It is fascinating.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 02:38:13 am »
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 03:19:38 am »
FWIW just a few days back Adams listed people able to see the world as he does;

 Trump, Mike Cernovich, Jack Prosobeic, Joe Rogan to name a few. 

It is not a boastful claim; rather a recognition about seeing things as they really are, and grasping how to impact them.


IMO Trump doesn't tackle the "squad" topic with a careful stepwise plan. It is gut instinct.

He understands that ordinary working Americans mostly dislike these foreigner ladies, that show disdain for the country.

So nothing like getting it done today.

"Hold my covfefe"

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 04:38:48 am »
Sdams' live Periscope is usually at 7 AM Pacific. But Periscope can be replayed, delayed. And then they are posted to Youtube.

I started listening, when Trump won, and it was revealed that Adams had predicted it a year before, with reasons, on the record.

I thought, it would be interesting to hear from somebody that did that. His main perspective is "persuasion" He is trained in hypnosis, too.

He recently predicted that with no major changes, Trump wins again in 2020.
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 06:52:23 am »
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 12:22:44 pm »
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2019, 12:40:05 pm »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9Tt6TLNpY

Here is the non-cartoonist take

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2019, 12:51:40 pm »
From this morning's WSJ:


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   Mr. Trump doesn't seem to understand that Democrats want the 2020 election to be about his words and behavior, rather than the results of his economic policies.  They'll lose a debate over results,  but they'll win if the election is a referendum on character.

Democrats want Mr. Trump to sound as if he's the one who believes half the country is a "basket of deplorables", to quote the line the line that so damaged Hillary Clinton in 2016.   They want an atmosphere of chaos and national division so voters who are up for grabs will be so tired after four years that they'll gamble on a Democrat even if they worry about the candidate's policies.   

And that's the truth, folks.   What his sycophants claim to be three-dimensional chess is actually bonehead stupidity.   Trump keeps playing the part the Dems so desperately need. 

 Perhaps this latest tweetstorm will buck up the courage of thinking conservatives that it's not too late to change course.   The future remains unwritten,  and I am not even going to think about who I will vote for in 2020.   It is only July of 2019,  and there is plenty of time to do what the Dems fear we can and must do - convince the President to, like LBJ,  not seek another term.   
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2019, 12:53:38 pm »
From this morning's WSJ:

And that's the truth, folks.   What his sycophants claim to be three-dimensional chess is actually bonehead stupidity.   Trump keeps playing the part the Dems so desperately need. 

 Perhaps this latest tweetstorm will buck up the courage of thinking conservatives that it's not too late to change course.   The future remains unwritten,  and I am not even going to think about who I will vote for in 2020.   It is only July of 2019,  and there is plenty of time to do what the Dems fear we can and must do - convince the President to, like LBJ,  not seek another term.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2019, 01:16:59 pm »
Stop kissing the man's arse,  RIV.    The WSJ is right -  Trump took the spectacle of Dem self-immolation and knocked it right off of the news cycle with his idiot tweets.   

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  As for politically stupid,  Mr. Trump rescued Democrats from an intra-party feud that had been escalating for days.  A smart opponent would have kept quiet and let it continue.   But Mr. Trump intruded into the spotlight and let Democrats unite in denouncing him.   
 
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2019, 02:33:18 pm »
I usually agree with your postings Jazz, but I'm going to disagree on this topic. While I don't think this was a deeply thought out chess move, I do think Trump's instincts on this are correct. He's drawing this into a Trump vs AOC and crew argument...making it a big part of "framing" the election. As someone mentioned above, its likely he's just acting on gut instinct but his political instincts are generally spot on.

What this means in the end is that the Dem candidate will be attached politically to AOC and the Fab Four group...and that is a sure loser in a national election. The very point that Trump's comments "force Dems to unite" is precisely what the President needs to happen...the Dem party is being forced to declare itself united and attached to its extreme Left wing. That is where Trump wants the election to be fought...him vs the FAR Left.
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2019, 02:41:23 pm »
FWIW just a few days back Adams listed people able to see the world as he does;

 Trump, Mike Cernovich, Jack Prosobeic, Joe Rogan to name a few. 

It is not a boastful claim; rather a recognition about seeing things as they really are, and grasping how to impact them.


IMO Trump doesn't tackle the "squad" topic with a careful stepwise plan. It is gut instinct.

He understands that ordinary working Americans mostly dislike these foreigner ladies, that show disdain for the country.


So nothing like getting it done today.

"Hold my covfefe"

Next.

I think you're right.

I believe the majority of us want to support our country not destroy it and turn it into some third world hellhole.
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2019, 02:45:16 pm »
I usually agree with your postings Jazz, but I'm going to disagree on this topic. While I don't think this was a deeply thought out chess move, I do think Trump's instincts on this are correct. He's drawing this into a Trump vs AOC and crew argument...making it a big part of "framing" the election. As someone mentioned above, its likely he's just acting on gut instinct but his political instincts are generally spot on.

What this means in the end is that the Dem candidate will be attached politically to AOC and the Fab Four group...and that is a sure loser in a national election. The very point that Trump's comments "force Dems to unite" is precisely what the President needs to happen...the Dem party is being forced to declare itself united and attached to its extreme Left wing. That is where Trump wants the election to be fought...him vs the FAR Left.

I doubt anyone who knows who "the squad" is will change there vote because of them.  Most people are ignorant and all they see is Trump attacking minority women.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2019, 03:04:27 pm »
It's amazing how Trump tweeting out something the Progressives threaten to do all the time (especially in 2016) because of Republican policies has caused their heads to explode.

Progressives - If (insert Republican) is elected I'm leaving this God awful racist fascist country!


Trump - If you hate this country leave


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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2019, 03:11:31 pm »
It's amazing how Trump tweeting out something the Progressives threaten to do all the time (especially in 2016) because of Republican policies has caused their heads to explode.

Progressives - If (insert Republican) is elected I'm leaving this God awful racist fascist country!


Trump - If you hate this country leave


Progressives - RACIST!!!!!

That would be a good point if Trump had been tweeting about Hollyweird.

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2019, 03:32:18 pm »
Stop kissing the man's arse,  RIV.    The WSJ is right -  Trump took the spectacle of Dem self-immolation and knocked it right off of the news cycle with his idiot tweets.   

Stop being so willfully blind @Jazzhead   The WSJ is wrong.

With one tweet the President has knocked the democrat candidates off the front page and taken control of the democrat caucus forcing them to hitch their star to the Four Horsewomen of the Apocalypse.  One tweet and the President erased any possibility that Pelosi would tie the Democrat Party to the more moderate, better lying, side of the democrat-socialist aisle.

Timing is everything--and the President's skill in this arena is intuitive.

The President loses nothing … his base stays with him and independents are nodding in agreement with him. 

But, the battle lines for 2020 have been drawn …. by Donald Trump.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the democrats fully realize what has just happened to them.

Jazz---no one ever said what fighting and defeating the democrat-socialists would look like.   Well, now we know.    :patriot:



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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2019, 04:27:28 pm »

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the democrats fully realize what has just happened to them.

Jazz---no one ever said what fighting and defeating the democrat-socialists would look like.   Well, now we know.    :patriot:

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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2019, 05:11:49 pm »

And that's the truth, folks.   What his sycophants claim to be three-dimensional chess is actually bonehead stupidity.   Trump keeps playing the part the Dems so desperately need. 

 Perhaps this latest tweetstorm will buck up the courage of thinking conservatives that it's not too late to change course.   The future remains unwritten,  and I am not even going to think about who I will vote for in 2020.   It is only July of 2019,  and there is plenty of time to do what the Dems fear we can and must do - convince the President to, like LBJ,  not seek another term.

There is no other Republican on the national stage who can win a general election in this country, which is why Trump will face little to no opposition in the primary.


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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2019, 06:18:44 pm »
From this morning's WSJ:


And that's the truth, folks.   What his sycophants claim to be three-dimensional chess is actually bonehead stupidity.   Trump keeps playing the part the Dems so desperately need. 

So says the biggest suporter here  of "President John Kasich"

next up, ex-Governor Mark Sanford, the backwoods hiker guy. Question: How many weak Republicans can be fit, on a pinhead? (or head of a pin, if you prefer)



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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2019, 06:19:44 pm »
There is no other Republican on the national stage who can win a general election in this country, which is why Trump will face little to no opposition in the primary.

Sure there is.   But no one, it appears,  with the courage to stand up and tell Trump to step down.   
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Re: Scott Adams: Trump’s “Go Back” Tweet
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2019, 06:27:08 pm »
@Jazzhead

From this morning's WSJ:

Mr. Trump doesn't seem to understand that Democrats want the 2020 election to be about his words and behavior, rather than the results of his economic policies.  They'll lose a debate over results,  but they'll win if the election is a referendum on character.

I agree with your general point -- we'd be much better off if the election wasn't about Trump's words and behavior, and was about the economy.  If Trump wasn't who he is to some extent.

But I think that toothpaste was squeezed out of the tube back in 2016...2017 at the latest.  At this point, even if Trump was a paragon of virtue and decorum from now through the election, the Dems already have their messaging and a rather endless series of ads they're going to run attacking him as morally unfit.  That's not going to change, and they're not going to let up on that for one second between now and next November.  And realistically...he's not going to do that anyway.  The guy is who he is.

So given that, he's got to have some of that non-economic issue ammo to fire back their way.  And apparently, the Dems internal polling show that AOC et al poll terribly in much of the country.  So the more he can make the 2020 race about the dangers of the radical Democrats, in addition to his economic achievements, the better shot he'll have.