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Democrat Internal Poll of Swing Voters Is Leaked and the Results Are Brutal

Posted at 7:00 pm on July 14, 2019 by Bonchie

ome Democrat strategist is going to wake up in a cold sweat later tonight after seeing this.

The Democratic Party conducted an internal poll of swing voters, including their feelings on the “squad” and socialism. The result are absolutely brutal when juxtaposed with the stated positions of those running in the 2020 Democratic primary race.

The poll was leaked to Axios and here are some of the results.

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https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/14/democrat-internal-poll-swing-voters-leaked-results-brutal/
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This poll sounds exactly right.   Approximately 1/3 (only) of the nation approves of the leftist/socialist policies.  They are by no means the majority, as they always attempt to portray themselves to be.

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Capitalism was 56% favorable; 32% unfavorable.

That said.... unless there is massive voter/election fraud next year.... and barring something dire and unforeseen happening that marginalizes the GOP.....

our side should win handily.
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It seems to me like Democrats have taken the wrong lessons from the 2016 elections.

Bernie didn't do as well as he did because America is ready for socialism. Bernie did well because Hillary Clinton is reviled by a huge chunk of the electorate, even in the Democratic Party... something made only worse after Hillary lost to the most hated Republican opponent possible.

But all these people in the party think that they can one-up socialism and add in a flavor of tokenism on top of it. Let me put it this way: when Joe Biden of all people looks like the sane person in the room compared to the rest of them... you're all a bunch of nuts.
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It seems to me like Democrats have taken the wrong lessons from the 2016 elections.

Bernie didn't do as well as he did because America is ready for socialism. Bernie did well because Hillary Clinton is reviled by a huge chunk of the electorate, even in the Democratic Party... something made only worse after Hillary lost to the most hated Republican opponent possible.

But all these people in the party think that they can one-up socialism and add in a flavor of tokenism on top of it. Let me put it this way: when Joe Biden of all people looks like the sane person in the room compared to the rest of them... you're all a bunch of nuts.

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I think the number one issue in most American household is economic stability.
When jobs are plentiful, and wages are good, people see a brighter future, and aren't willing to change course.
History shows us that a majority of the time, the party in power holds that power during good economic times.
The Democrats really can't speak out against the economy, although they will try.

They are left with "everyone is a victim of straight white people", which is all they have.
Socialism is the message, so that way all can feel the pain equally.
It's ridiculous, but they can't really run on anything else.
Even the most woke of the white leftist, is being savaged by those liberal socialist "people of color" as being racist.
Their message will be turning those folks off, as well.

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It seems to me like Democrats have taken the wrong lessons from the 2016 elections.

Bernie didn't do as well as he did because America is ready for socialism. Bernie did well because Hillary Clinton is reviled by a huge chunk of the electorate, even in the Democratic Party... something made only worse after Hillary lost to the most hated Republican opponent possible.

But all these people in the party think that they can one-up socialism and add in a flavor of tokenism on top of it. Let me put it this way: when Joe Biden of all people looks like the sane person in the room compared to the rest of them... you're all a bunch of nuts.

Good points. 

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Xena wrote:
"This poll sounds exactly right.   Approximately 1/3 (only) of the nation approves of the leftist/socialist policies.  They are by no means the majority, as they always attempt to portray themselves to be."

Did 1/3 of the Russian population approve of the Bolsheviks before they seized power?

Also worth noting is that only about a third of the American colonists originally supported a war for independence with Britain.

If it was, say, 1/10 of the population that endorsed socialism, that might be less of a problem.
But 33% ??
That's not that far away from becoming dangerous to our future.

Groucho wrote:
"I think the number one issue in most American household is economic stability.
When jobs are plentiful, and wages are good, people see a brighter future, and aren't willing to change course.
History shows us that a majority of the time, the party in power holds that power during good economic times."


Ummm..... then how do you explain the results of 2012?

Nope.
Not no mo'.
It ain't the economy no more (stupid).
Today... "it's the ideology"...

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Xena wrote:
"This poll sounds exactly right.   Approximately 1/3 (only) of the nation approves of the leftist/socialist policies.  They are by no means the majority, as they always attempt to portray themselves to be."

Did 1/3 of the Russian population approve of the Bolsheviks before they seized power?

I don't know what the Russkies did, but I do know that our 2/3 is VERY well-armed (thanks, Barry!)... and many, if not most, of us are about as pissed off as we can be right about now (it's been building over the years, especially since around 2008).... and have prepared ourselves mentally and in other ways for what is headed our way.  There is only one solution to this commie problem we're having.   :whistle:

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Also worth noting is that only about a third of the American colonists originally supported a war for independence with Britain.

If it was, say, 1/10 of the population that endorsed socialism, that might be less of a problem.
But 33% ??
That's not that far away from becoming dangerous to our future.

The RL has always been dangerous to our future, to our freedom and to our very lives.   McCarthy tried to warn the sleeping morons, but their apathy allowed him to be demonized, marginalized, mocked and dismissed, instead of listened to.   The left's level of danger to us has only grown since then (cue that saying about how evil grows when good men do nothing... which is still happening within the GOP as we speak).

And with the election of Trump, it has never been more true than now, now that their cloak and facade has been dropped.   They've been galvanized out of sheer desperation.   As for actually watering that tree of liberty....I believe that the fact is... not even 1/3 of the leftists would be willing OR able to physically fight for what they supposedly believe in... ie the end of capitalism and the resultant communist system of government.  Our side .... our patriotic, well-armed and informed side, however... will damned sure as hell fight for this nation.   If I ever doubted it before July 4....

I have NO doubts about it now.

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Ummm..... then how do you explain the results of 2012?

That's easy.  Massive Democrat voter/election fraud.   Remember ACORN?


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This poll sounds exactly right.   Approximately 1/3 (only) of the nation approves of the leftist/socialist policies.  They are by no means the majority, as they always attempt to portray themselves to be.

That said.... unless there is massive voter/election fraud next year.... and barring something dire and unforeseen happening that marginalizes the GOP.....

our side should win handily.

@XenaLee

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Even if they don't know they are registered and voting.
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The Democratic Party conducted an internal poll of swing voters, including their feelings on the “squad” and socialism.


I'm so scared of socialism I sent Trump my whole SS check.  I hope he sends it to those poor farmers.
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If it was, say, 1/10 of the population that endorsed socialism, that might be less of a problem.
But 33% ??
That's not that far away from becoming dangerous to our future.

The liberal left has been 30% about my whole life. It is nothing new. Or remarkable.

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Groucho wrote:
"I think the number one issue in most American household is economic stability.
When jobs are plentiful, and wages are good, people see a brighter future, and aren't willing to change course.
History shows us that a majority of the time, the party in power holds that power during good economic times."


Ummm..... then how do you explain the results of 2012?

Nope.
Not no mo'.
It ain't the economy no more (stupid).
Today... "it's the ideology"...

Remember, 2008, the economy was a disaster, conveniently enough, right before the election, in  September, is when it all went haywire.

2012, while definitely not the definition of a roaring economy, was better than 2008, so I believe my point is valid.

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It seems to me like Democrats have taken the wrong lessons from the 2016 elections.

Bernie didn't do as well as he did because America is ready for socialism. Bernie did well because Hillary Clinton is reviled by a huge chunk of the electorate, even in the Democratic Party... something made only worse after Hillary lost to the most hated Republican opponent possible.

But all these people in the party think that they can one-up socialism and add in a flavor of tokenism on top of it. Let me put it this way: when Joe Biden of all people looks like the sane person in the room compared to the rest of them... you're all a bunch of nuts.

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Remember, 2008, the economy was a disaster, conveniently enough, right before the election, in  September, is when it all went haywire.

2012, while definitely not the definition of a roaring economy, was better than 2008, so I believe my point is valid.

Went haywire?  As in when Mccain threw in the towel at the last minute?

I don't know if that SOB would have won, but I'm pretty sure he did everything he could to lose.
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Went haywire?  As in when Mccain threw in the towel at the last minute?

I don't know if that SOB would have won, but I'm pretty sure he did everything he could to lose.
Economics would have gone haywire whether McCain stayed in the race or not, not taking his "break" to try and solve the collapse.
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Economics would have gone haywire whether McCain stayed in the race or not, not taking his "break" to try and solve the collapse.

@GrouchoTex

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a professional retail politician like McLunatic panic like he did when Sarah started drawing standing ovations,and put him ahead in the polls.

Truth to tell,dingbat that she can be,if she had headed the ticket,they would have won.
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It seems to me like Democrats have taken the wrong lessons from the 2016 elections.

Bernie didn't do as well as he did because America is ready for socialism. Bernie did well because Hillary Clinton is reviled by a huge chunk of the electorate, even in the Democratic Party... something made only worse after Hillary lost to the most hated Republican opponent possible.

But all these people in the party think that they can one-up socialism and add in a flavor of tokenism on top of it. Let me put it this way: when Joe Biden of all people looks like the sane person in the room compared to the rest of them... you're all a bunch of nuts.

Like Gollum, (Lord of the Rings) the Democrats literally had the ring in their hands...and then Hillary lost and they have gone totally insane.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Economics would have gone haywire whether McCain stayed in the race or not, not taking his "break" to try and solve the collapse.

McCain rushed back to Washington, to do.........nothing.   What a loser.

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@GrouchoTex

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a professional retail politician like McLunatic panic like he did when Sarah started drawing standing ovations,and put him ahead in the polls.

Truth to tell,dingbat that she can be,if she had headed the ticket,they would have won.
Many who could not stand him voted to have her a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
But I honestly believe his people 'leaked' things about her to hurt her in the polls so he would look better (clothing budgets, etc.).
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Like Gollum, (Lord of the Rings) the Democrats literally had the ring in their hands...and then Hillary lost and they have gone totally insane.
Between the lies, the full time MSM propaganda, the fawning over her since Bubba was Potus, the whole 'you go girl!' and "stand by your man" thing, all the grease on all the skids, convincing half of America a PIAPS was a fashion model, and the voter fraud, the 'fix' was in.

Only it wasn't.

They were so sure, no wonder they lost it, and they haven't got 'it' back.
People I know were tired of having their kids go to school and eat "healthy" lunches, arriving home ravenous because they weren't getting what they needed to grow.
What economic effects happened? Americans, in spite of Obama, reduced the price of a gallon of gas from nearly $4 to almost $2.50 and shook the economy loose. Only opposing the policies which tried to stop that, and supporting those which would have brought that miracle about sooner appealed. With that oil boom, done on Private land, came the possibility to launch even more on Federal Leases with a favorable government.

About half of any economy is faith, and people had none in the Democrats after the ACA, corruption over alternative energy grants, and other impediments to prosperity.
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@GrouchoTex

I honestly don't think I have ever seen a professional retail politician like McLunatic panic like he did when Sarah started drawing standing ovations,and put him ahead in the polls.

Truth to tell,dingbat that she can be,if she had headed the ticket,they would have won.

@sneakypete

I'd agree that for all her peculiarities, you are correct, and the ticket was upside down.
I think people like Sarah Palin and Ross Perot lead the way to President Trump.
I am okay with this.
It is not meant to be an insult.

The parties have become too much alike and need some shaking up like this, from time to time.
I suppose you could count me in the Quasi-Never Trump Camp, more of the Skeptical Trump camp, but I've come to be wrong about that, and I am quite happy to be wrong about that.
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I'd agree that for all her peculiarities, you are correct, and the ticket was upside down.
I think people like Sarah Palin and Ross Perot lead the way to President Trump.
I am okay with this.
It is not meant to be an insult.

The parties have become too much alike and need some shaking up like this, from time to time.
I suppose you could count me in the Quasi-Never Trump Camp, more of the Skeptical Trump camp, but I've come to be wrong about that, and I am quite happy to be wrong about that.

@GrouchoTex

@sneakypete

I'd agree that for all her peculiarities, you are correct, and the ticket was upside down.
I think people like Sarah Palin and Ross Perot lead the way to President Trump.
I am okay with this.
It is not meant to be an insult.

The parties have become too much alike and need some shaking up like this, from time to time.
I suppose you could count me in the Quasi-Never Trump Camp, more of the Skeptical Trump camp, but I've come to be wrong about that, and I am quite happy to be wrong about that.

@GrouchoTex

We don't live in an ideal world,so there are always compromises that have to be made in order to be practical enough you don't harm yourself,even if the solution doesn't completely please you.

It's just the way of the world.

I also happen to believe because I have seen it happen myself in real life in the army,that sometimes unlikely people get put in a position they don't really understand and would NEVER be anybody's first or even second pick for that position,and they are like creme rising to the top to meet and defeat the situation.

One example was named "Stanley". No kidding. I have no idea why he didn't murder his mother and father for naming him Stanly when he was 12,but knew and served with him twice before the "occasion arose". I never once even heard his raise his voice to argue with anyone. Quiet,unassuming,always smiling and trying to get along.

Stanley was some kind of radio technicial. Not an operator,but a radio mechanic,if there is such a thing. By mere chance,he did NOT volunteer,he was assigned to be a radio repairman for a classified organization,and he and everyone else THOUGHT he was a safe as in his mama's arms with that position at a classified compound outside of Saigon,protected by and surrounded by hard-core SF types armed to the teeth.

Then came Tet of 68. The grunts were out in the bush doing what grunts in the bush do,when the compound was attacked. The security troops and the walking wounded that were left behind were the only ones to man the walls,and the NVA came in waves and breached the gates with shape charges. Next thing he knows,the commo shack comes under attack,so Stanley picks up a M-16 and web gear from a killed guard,and goes to war.

By the time the day is over,he is wounded twice,and is put in for  Distinguished Service Cross,but gets it downgraded to a Silver Star,if anyone wants to be foolish enough to consider a Silver Star a downgrade.

He also discovers he has found his calling. Next time I saw him was when I went to Recon Team Leader School outside of Saigon,and he had been promoted twice and was an instructor there. No more Mr.Quiet,unassuming shy guy. Self-confidence and competence just seems to ooze off of  him. More than that,VERY senior NCO's who had been on patrols with him admired him,and senior SF NCO's are a tough audience to impress if you are a young soldier. Trust me on that one.

It was like he was reborn in his early 20's. Stanley had found his calling. He might have found it by accident,but make no mistake about it,soldiering was what he was born to do.

Yes,indeed. People WILL sometimes surprise you and rise to the occasion once put into that position. The job CAN "make the man."

Or the woman,in Palin's case. I honestly think if she had been elected that she would have just taken the ball and started running with it.
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The Democratic Party conducted an internal poll of swing voters, including their feelings on the “squad” and socialism. The result are absolutely brutal when juxtaposed with the stated positions of those running in the 2020 Democratic primary race.

Lets give Trump some credit. He keeps pushing the Rats to support these radicals.

Who would have thought, most citizens want to support and love their country.
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The Democratic Party conducted an internal poll of swing voters, including their feelings on the “squad” and socialism. The result are absolutely brutal when juxtaposed with the stated positions of those running in the 2020 Democratic primary race.

Lets give Trump some credit. He keeps pushing the Rats to support these radicals.

Who would have thought, most citizens want to support and love their country.

@bilo

I hate to admit it,but I am a little surprised.

Which is what pissed me off so much about the Party First creatures that hate Trump because he isn't a professional politician,and "took the presidency away" from their favorite RINO.

These asshats are putting party ahead of country,and I do NOT like that.
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