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More from 2014.  Obviously Trump's fault.

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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

-Dwight Eisenhower-


"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

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Jeh Johnson, Obama's Homeland Security chief, touring a detention facility.  That Donald Trump is such a meanie.

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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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Shall we pretend the picture of the child in the cage doesn't represent our current immigration policy?
Somehow we should all feel sooo much better now?
How disingenuous.
How shameful.

You forgot the video of the Momma drinking toilet water.
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Shall we pretend the picture of the child in the cage doesn't represent our current immigration policy?
Somehow we should all feel sooo much better now?
How disingenuous.
How shameful.

Seriously?  Using a staged picture is okay because...you want it to be?  Good grief.  You are correct - that is the definition of disingenuous and shameful. 

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Funny how no one complained when Obama caged them indoors and set up porta-potties by their sleeping area.




No stories of guards making immigrants drink out of toilets back then because they didn't have toilets.  But Trump's the bad guy.
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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

-Dwight Eisenhower-


"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

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Said nobody.


Don't cherry pick and take bits out of context.  That's just not honest.

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Funny how no one complained when Obama caged them indoors and set up porta-potties by their sleeping area.




No stories of guards making immigrants drink out of toilets back then because they didn't have toilets.  But Trump's the bad guy.

@Hoodat

How about we focus on cause and effect instead of politics?

Q: Why are these people in cages?

A: They are in cages because they illegally invaded our country,we don't know who they are,and we don't know for sure they didn't come here to murder people,set off bombs,or start fires. All we KNOW for a FACT is that they are criminals because they broke out laws. If they had remained at home and filed the paperwork necessary to come to America legally,they would not have been detained.

In other words,it is THEIR fault they are being locked away in cages,not ours for locking them up.



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@Hoodat

How about we focus on cause and effect instead of politics?

Q: Why are these people in cages?

A: They are in cages because they illegally invaded our country,we don't know who they are,and we don't know for sure they didn't come here to murder people,set off bombs,or start fires. All we KNOW for a FACT is that they are criminals because they broke out laws. If they had remained at home and filed the paperwork necessary to come to America legally,they would not have been detained.

In other words,it is THEIR fault they are being locked away in cages,not ours for locking them up.

Absolutely correct.  What was true in 2014 is still true 5 years later.
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@Hoodat

How about we focus on cause and effect instead of politics?

lol.  My photos happen to be genuine.  If I was playing politics, I would have posted fake ones.


Q: Why are these people in cages?

A: They are in cages because they illegally invaded our country,we don't know who they are,and we don't know for sure they didn't come here to murder people,set off bombs,or start fires. All we KNOW for a FACT is that they are criminals because they broke out laws. If they had remained at home and filed the paperwork necessary to come to America legally,they would not have been detained.

In other words,it is THEIR fault they are being locked away in cages,not ours for locking them up.

Correctamundo.  If cages make you shiver, then don't cross the river.
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With your permission  @sneakypete  I would add, as a group are being used by the left as a political football to get control of congress and the total power the want to control society.

Talk about shameful and dangerous people! Madam Speaker Cortez?!

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With your permission  @sneakypete  I would add, as a group are being used by the left as a political football to get control of congress and the total power the want to control society.

Talk about shameful and dangerous people! Madam Speaker Cortez?!

@aligncare

100 percent on-target.

BTW,you don't need my permission to add to or even try to take away from anything I write. If people don't speak their minds and share their thoughts,none of us will ever see all sides of any issue and be able to make an intelligent decision about the issue.
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Sorry to bring this thread close to topic ..... but I found this fascinating:


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Funny how no one complained when Obama caged them indoors and set up porta-potties by their sleeping area.




No stories of guards making immigrants drink out of toilets back then because they didn't have toilets.  But Trump's the bad guy.

My understanding is that those nasty looking chain link fences were put in to protect minors in those facilities from predatory adults who might otherwise be able to access those kids at night, etc..  Doesn't look great, but I've had plenty of worse accommodations in my life.

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Pulling myself out of the discussion (since I'm not trying to persuade anyone in particular, and I understand why some among us feel that they have to choice about voting for Trump because the left is so bad.  I GET that),  I see your point about the belief that some of you have that those who vocally oppose Trump are encouraging voting for the Dem.

But other than perhaps one person here, I don't see anyone doing that.  I certainly am not.

And since this is a discussion board for Conservatives, stating one's views that there isn't a dimes worth of difference in the two parties and that one's conscience will not allow one to vote for someone who doesn't reflect his or her values, can in NO way be perceived as supporting the Democrats and "doing nothing" to stem the tide of the downfall of this once great nation.

I pretty much agree with all of that.  And I would probably go further -- that most of us are so entrenched in our positions on the wisdom of voting for Trump that it is unlikely in the extreme that any votes are going to be swayed simply by you stating the reasons for your position.  So I don't believe that you refusing to vote for Trump is "supporting" the Democrat.  Heck, I suspect that outside of this board, you likely suggest that other people not vote for the Democrat either!

However, there are some GOP politicians and pundits outside this board who essentially are encouraging other Republicans not to vote for Trump.  You can usually tell who they are because they spend the vast majority of their efforts attacking Trump rather than the Dems, despite the fact that they are very public leaders within the party.  I remember we had that one article by some alleged conservative pinned who actually urged Republicans to elect Democrats to Congress.  So I believe all those people can be fairly accused of "supporting" Democrats.  As distinct from private citizens such as yourself who are simply explaining your consciences.   I do think you're wrong not to support Trump (as I'm sure you think my position is as well), but that's very different from being immoral or supporting immorality. It's really just doing the political calculus and coming up with different answers.

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To my recollection I have never mentioned by name  any poster on this website.
If someone is uncomfortable with my opinions, that is on them, and you.
This is your game, feel free to tell me to back where I came from.

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To my recollection I have never mentioned by name  any poster on this website.
If someone is uncomfortable with my opinions, that is on them, and you.
This is your game, feel free to tell me to back where I came from.

True, you just make general insults against anyone who supports the president.

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To my recollection I have never mentioned by name  any poster on this website.
If someone is uncomfortable with my opinions, that is on them, and you.
This is your game, feel free to tell me to back where I came from.

I would say that DU misses you but I'm sure you report in regularly.
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I would say that DU misses you but I'm sure you report in regularly.

I'm sorry, @Bigun, but that's ridiculous.

The rule here is to argue with the poster's comments, not attack the poster.  Obviously you disagree with things @Rivergirl says, but I've never seen anything that indicates she's a member of a Democrat website.

C'mon!  That's a TOS throwback.
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I pretty much agree with all of that.  And I would probably go further -- that most of us are so entrenched in our positions on the wisdom of voting for Trump that it is unlikely in the extreme that any votes are going to be swayed simply by you stating the reasons for your position.  So I don't believe that you refusing to vote for Trump is "supporting" the Democrat.  Heck, I suspect that outside of this board, you likely suggest that other people not vote for the Democrat either!

However, there are some GOP politicians and pundits outside this board who essentially are encouraging other Republicans not to vote for Trump.  You can usually tell who they are because they spend the vast majority of their efforts attacking Trump rather than the Dems, despite the fact that they are very public leaders within the party.  I remember we had that one article by some alleged conservative pinned who actually urged Republicans to elect Democrats to Congress.  So I believe all those people can be fairly accused of "supporting" Democrats.  As distinct from private citizens such as yourself who are simply explaining your consciences.   I do think you're wrong not to support Trump (as I'm sure you think my position is as well), but that's very different from being immoral or supporting immorality. It's really just doing the political calculus and coming up with different answers.

I understand the distinction you're making between politicians and regular old people, and see your point on that, but I slightly disagree.

I don't believe that, if a person believes strongly about issues and character and disagrees with this, or any President, that they should be silenced.   I don't believe that loyalty to the Party trumps adherence to values, and when this, or any President falls short of those values, I see no reason that any person, politician or not, should not be able to express that.

Obviously in politicians there are (always) ulterior motives, but I still don't believe that voicing strong disagreement with Trump means supporting Democrats.

(As to your suspicion about what I say outside this board, just yesterday on a Facebook discussion, I said those very words.  Don't vote for a Democrat to punish the hapless, corrupt Republican party with its offensive "leader," Trump.  It's voting for worst over worse.  BAD idea).

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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Again - let's stay on topic here.   It is:  Trump tells progressive Democrats to go back and fix 'broken and crime infested places' they came from.

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Sorry darlin. You cannot vote 'against'. Your vote is an endorsement. You are voting *for*.

And that's nothing but a fact.

Wrong.  I'm voting against the radical left Democrats by voting for the GOP. 

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Trump's right.

Trump does more than just "thinking out side the box;" He shakes up the box.




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