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Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« on: July 12, 2019, 08:56:29 pm »
Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
By Jessica Campisi - 07/12/19 04:17 PM EDT

Major hotel chains headquartered in the Washington, D.C., area pledged not to allow Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents to use its hotel rooms as backup detention centers for immigrants targeted in this weekend’s raids.

“Our hotels are not configured to be detention facilities, but to be open to guests and community members as well,” Marriott International wrote in a statement dated Thursday. “While we have no particular insights into whether the U.S. government is considering the use of hotels to aid in the situation at the border, Marriott has made the decision to decline any requests to use our hotels as detention facilities.”

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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 09:09:44 pm »
Thanks for the Corporate ("woke") Virtue Signalling!!

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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 09:42:46 pm »
ICE:  "No Problem!"

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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 11:26:39 pm »
The government shouldn’t be using hotel rooms as detention cells anyways, unless they’ve rented out the entire hotel and no unsuspecting guests are present. 
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 11:35:42 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on July 12, 2019, 11:26:39 pm
The government shouldn’t be using hotel rooms as detention cells anyways, unless they’ve rented out the entire hotel and no unsuspecting guests are present.

I totally agree.  Who even brought this idea up, anyway?
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 11:37:10 pm »
Marriot is Mormon but not Romney? I remember it was brought up that some hotel Mitt had interest showed pay-perview soft porn. I don't know, that seems gping a bit to far in holding a politician accountable and it turns out the hotel did not do that anymore. Could be a risk factor too.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 11:40:13 pm »
I don't think anyone was killed but a hotel in Canada was set fire and not by a refugee but by a disgruntled Canadian

The Canadian did not like the immigration policy.

I believe it was set fire by a woman.  The hotel was hosting refugees I believe exclusively.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2019, 01:29:40 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 12, 2019, 11:35:42 pm
I totally agree.  Who even brought this idea up, anyway?

Actually, most hotels I've gone to do have ICE already.



I've even seen a few buckets too.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2019, 02:58:34 am »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on July 12, 2019, 11:26:39 pm
The government shouldn’t be using hotel rooms as detention cells anyways, unless they’ve rented out the entire hotel and no unsuspecting guests are present.

I would add that the cost of cleaning up and fixing things that are broken after these people leave would be prohibitive.  That cost would have to be passed on to future guests and you know the company would lose a heckuva lot of business as a result.

I agree with Marriott's decision and not because I'm a rewards member.  It's a smart business decision.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2019, 03:07:09 am »
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2019, 03:35:33 am »
I suggest that patriots, first make reservations, then cancel at the last minute, stating they oppose the corp policies regarding immigration.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2019, 04:33:40 am »
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“While we have no particular insights into whether the U.S. government is considering the use of hotels to aid in the situation at the border, Marriott has made the decision to decline any requests to use our hotels as detention facilities.”

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“We are not aware that any of our franchised hotels, all of which are independently owned and operated, are being asked to serve as detention facilities,” the company’s statement reads.

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The hotels' statements come after local activist groups including Sanctuary DMV delivered a petition with more than 120,000 signatures to the companies’ local headquarters, the organization tweeted.

Considering that no one from ICE nor any other government agency has spoken about or approached them on the topic, as I said in the first post, this is nothing but shameless virtue signalling at the corporate level.  They can all go to hell.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2019, 05:32:57 am »
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 12:02:07 pm »
Quote from: EdJames on July 13, 2019, 04:33:40 am
Considering that no one from ICE nor any other government agency has spoken about or approached them on the topic, as I said in the first post, this is nothing but shameless virtue signalling at the corporate level.  They can all go to hell.

Virtue signaling to me is Starbucks ordering police officers to leave because they allegedly scared a customer.  In this case, it's a corporation making a sound business decision. 

And since it appears Marriott hasn't even been asked yet to house these illegals, the article is fake news -- much ado about nothing.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2019, 12:15:57 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 13, 2019, 12:02:07 pm
Virtue signaling to me is Starbucks ordering police officers to leave because they allegedly scared a customer.  In this case, it's a corporation making a sound business decision. 

And since it appears Marriott hasn't even been asked yet to house these illegals, the article is fake news -- much ado about nothing.

I see the two cases as being very different.

If you take the Starbucks case as reported, they weren't "signalling" anything, they acted.  There was an actual stimulation (the customer complaining) and action taken (asking the police to leave).

In the case of the hotels, the only stimulation was this anti-ICE, anti-deportation group, Sanctuary DMV, delivering a petition.  They reacted to that by virtue signalling in public.

And, I don't see the article as Fake News since it presents a fairly complete story (accurately to my knowledge):  Sanctuary DMV delivered petitions to various hotel chains, and they issued their spew.

ETA: A non-virtue signalling approach would have been to simply wait to see if they were actually asked to house any detainees, and then decline.  Making the public statements is where the virtue signalling comes to the fore.

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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 12:35:55 pm »
@EdJames

Thing is, I don't see any mention in Marriott's statement that the company was responding to the petition.  I can see how you would assume so, since the statement was issued after the company was presented with the petition.  But without any mention of the petition, I am only seeing the company's statement as  a pre-emptive announcement that if asked, the hotel chain would decline to serve as detention facilities.

But then again, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 12:42:08 pm »
Well, I don't see it is much of a stretch since the statements came after the petitions were delivered and we read:

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Y’ALL...@MarriottIntl just sent this statement to our organizer & press: “Marriott has made the decision to decline any requests to use our hotels as detention facilities.”

Since they sent the statement to the organizer, it pretty much looks like a response.....
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 02:01:35 pm »
This sounds like a contrived story.  I can't imagine ICE wanting to use Marriott hotels (or any others) to house prisoners.  It makes zero sense in the first place.  They're expensive and it would be next to impossible to control the population.

Somebody at the leftist pressure group one day said, "Hey!  Let's make some news and start a rumor!"  Marriott simply responded to the rumor. 
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2019, 03:11:44 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 13, 2019, 02:01:35 pm
This sounds like a contrived story.  I can't imagine ICE wanting to use Marriott hotels (or any others) to house prisoners.  It makes zero sense in the first place.  They're expensive and it would be next to impossible to control the population.

Somebody at the leftist pressure group one day said, "Hey!  Let's make some news and start a rumor!"  Marriott simply responded to the rumor.

Thing is, given the federal government's knack for ridiculous ideas, it's just about believable that some bureaucrat might have said, "hey, let's pay the hotels to house the illegals!" 

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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2019, 03:13:48 pm »
Quote from: EdJames on July 13, 2019, 12:42:08 pm
Well, I don't see it is much of a stretch since the statements came after the petitions were delivered and we read:

Since they sent the statement to the organizer, it pretty much looks like a response.....

Ok.  But I still say that whatever the motivation or reason, declining to participate in any hare-brained scheme to put up the illegals in hotels was a sound decision from a business standpoint.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2019, 03:17:31 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 13, 2019, 03:11:44 pm
Thing is, given the federal government's knack for ridiculous ideas, it's just about believable that some bureaucrat might have said, "hey, let's pay the hotels to house the illegals!"

Maybe it sounded good on paper to a bean counting bureaucrat far removed from the folks working the front lines.
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2019, 03:18:35 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 13, 2019, 03:13:48 pm
Ok.  But I still say that whatever the motivation or reason, declining to participate in any hare-brained scheme to put up the illegals in hotels was a sound decision from a business standpoint.

No argument from me on that!
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Re: Major hotel chains pledge not to let ICE use rooms as backup immigration detention facilities
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2019, 03:19:59 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 13, 2019, 03:13:48 pm
Ok.  But I still say that whatever the motivation or reason, declining to participate in any hare-brained scheme to put up the illegals in hotels was a sound decision from a business standpoint.

I share your view.  I would not want to be a paying guest in such close proximity to a bunch of unguarded  illegal aliens, and I imagine there are many others who feel the same.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2019, 06:32:45 pm »
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