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Paul Ryan says he saw retirement as an 'escape hatch' from Trump: book
By Rebecca Klar - 07/11/19 09:48 AM EDT

Former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), an early Trump critic who ultimately fell in line with supporting the president's agenda and rhetoric, said he saw retirement as his "escape hatch," according to a new book written by Tim Alberta.

A copy of Alberta's "American Carnage" was obtained by The Washington Post ahead of its release and the paper reported some of top Republican's private views of President Trump on Wednesday.

“I told myself I gotta have a relationship with this guy to help him get his mind right,” Ryan recalls, according to the reported portion of Alberta's book. “Because, I’m telling you, he didn’t know anything about government . . . I wanted to scold him all the time.”

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If only he had stepped down right after Trump was sworn in; things might have been a whole lot rosier.
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Weaselly little chicken, yes, but I'm glad he's gone.
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There will be no good choices next time around.   It is the most frustrating feeling, for someone like myself who's voted in every election since he was 18,  to realize that it does no good to enable the schoolyard brawling.   

     
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There will be no good choices next time around.   It is the most frustrating feeling, for someone like myself who's voted in every election since he was 18,  to realize that it does no good to enable the schoolyard brawling.     

And this has *what* to do with Paul Ryan?
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Maybe he is beginning to voice his interest in running against the leader of the deplorables.

I think Ryan thinks too highly of himself.  He will never get my vote.

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And this has *what* to do with Paul Ryan?

I wish sometimes, like Paul Ryan,  that I could step away.   As a citizen,  it is my responsibility to vote.   I feel betrayed that neither party is going to give me a choice I can be proud of.   Old school conservatives in the GOP have either been marginalized or are too timid to oppose Trump and his ferocious "base",  and the Dems have lost their motherlovin' minds.   
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Weaselly little chicken.

Who do I dislike more?  Trump or Ryan?

Tough call.
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Maybe he is beginning to voice his interest in running against the leader of the deplorables.

I think Ryan thinks too highly of himself.  He will never get my vote.

If Paul Ryan were to step up and run against Trump,  it would be a Godsend.   I would be onboard with that so fast it would make your head spin. 

It's easier to just retire,  I'm afraid.  Unfortunately, we citizens still have to vote. The two parties have betrayed us.   
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Who do I dislike more?  Trump or Ryan?

Tough call.
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Who do I dislike more?  Trump or Ryan?

Tough call.

Not for me it isn't!  Ryan by a mile! Both he and his tax lawyer/lobbyist wife!

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Not for me it isn't!  Ryan by a mile! Both he and his tax lawyer/lobbyist wife!

I call your tax lawyer, and raise a sleazy land developer.  happy77
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I wish sometimes, like Paul Ryan,  that I could step away.   As a citizen,  it is my responsibility to vote.   I feel betrayed that neither party is going to give me a choice I can be proud of.   Old school conservatives in the GOP have either been marginalized or are too timid to oppose Trump and his ferocious "base",  and the Dems have lost their motherlovin' minds.


Maybe you need a vacation away from politics to unwind and clear your head.  This may make room for a healthier, more positive perspective.   Try fishing … or my favorite, boating.    It does work!  happy77

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Maybe you need a vacation away from politics to unwind and clear your head.  This may make room for a healthier, more positive perspective.   Try fishing … or my favorite, boating.    It does work!  happy77

Oh, I'm done.   My type of conservative is as extinct now in the GOP as the Zell Miller-types are in the Democratic party.    The Trumpsters despise folks like me,  and the Dems have become indistinguishable from Maoists.   I may express my views on the internet,  but I have no illusions that anyone listens.   I am just a boil on the GOP's arse.   
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Unfortunately, we citizens still have to vote. The two parties have betrayed us.   

It is impossible for everyone to be completely happy with even one of the two parties.  Some people are inevitably going to be upset that some of their views are not reflected in the current stance of their preferred party.  I don't quite see how that's a "betrayal", though.

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It is impossible for everyone to be completely happy with even one of the two parties.  Some people are inevitably going to be upset that some of their views are not reflected in the current stance of their preferred party.  I don't quite see how that's a "betrayal", though.

@Jazzhead

While I agree with many of Trump's policies, the result is that his bellicose, unsteady and unhinged style has radicalized the Democrats into likely nominating a socialist progressive who may well be electable because so many of us are sick and weary of Trump's antics.    The choices we face next year are truly abominable - don't forget, too,  that the Senate is at risk.   What I want is for conservatism (hell, just classical liberalism) to survive.   Trump has unwittingly set the stage for so much of what we've worked for to be discredited and undone. 

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While I agree with many of Trump's policies, the result is that his bellicose, unsteady and unhinged style has radicalized the Democrats into likely nominating a socialist progressive who may well be electable because so many of us are sick and weary of Trump's antics.    The choices we face next year are truly abominable - don't forget, too,  that the Senate is at risk.   What I want is for conservatism (hell, just classical liberalism) to survive.   Trump has unwittingly set the stage for so much of what we've worked for to be discredited and undone. 

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Oh the irony.   Pelosi had more guts than the cowardly Ryan.

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While I agree with many of Trump's policies, the result is that his bellicose, unsteady and unhinged style has radicalized the Democrats into likely nominating a socialist progressive who may well be electable because so many of us are sick and weary of Trump's antics.

I see your point in terms of a progressive being electable, but I think the Democrats have been trending left for awhile and the nomination of a progressive leftist likely would have happened anyway.  You may be right about Trump making them more electable, though.

In terms of Trump...I think the GOP establishment dug that hole for itself because of the issue of immigration.  It was Trump's signature issue, and became such because the GOP establishment had been so badly out of touch with most of its base for so long on that issue.  Having much better control of our border still polls strongly, but amazingly, the GOP still couldn't get it done even when we controlled Congress and the Presidency.  I understand that was partially due to the filibuster, but the result is just more grassroots frustration with the GOP establishment on that issue.

I agree to the extent that I don't see where we can go from here.  You have the more moderate, anti-Trump elements of the GOP who want to move on from him, but there is a huge segment of Trump supporters who just won't support any Republicans who is perceived as having been anti-Trump.

Nikki Haley may be the one person out there who could unify the party, but that can't happen until 2024.

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It is impossible for everyone to be completely happy with even one of the two parties.  Some people are inevitably going to be upset that some of their views are not reflected in the current stance of their preferred party.  I don't quite see how that's a "betrayal", though.
It's not just the preferred party. Both parties have taken stances that we not only disagree with, but are causing great long-term harm to us. One need only look at our national debt for the first example. There isn't enough political capital to take on the austerity measures needed to bring the country back into sound fiscal health.
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It's not just the preferred party. Both parties have taken stances that we not only disagree with, but are causing great long-term harm to us. One need only look at our national debt for the first example. There isn't enough political capital to take on the austerity measures needed to bring the country back into sound fiscal health.

My point is that it is less the parties themselves than it is the voters.  You no longer have a majority of voters able to agree on a lot of those issues (except at a level of generality that is useless in terms of formulating policy), so expecting it of the parties isn't reasonable.

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While I agree with many of Trump's policies, the result is that his bellicose, unsteady and unhinged style has radicalized the Democrats into likely nominating a socialist progressive

 9999hair out0000  The President "radicalized the democrats"?!?!?!  This thesis is 180 degrees from what is really happening. 

The President is forcing the Democrats to shed their moderate skin and expose who they are and always have been.  And he isn't doing it by being "bellicose" .... he is doing it by reawaking the enemy to their real socialist agenda .... the American patriot ...  and refusing to surrender to them.

Just stop and think what a Clinton II presidency would be doing to the sovereignty and military/financial security of this nation.  Sure you'd be loving the sunshine, lollipops and unicorns spit at you by the media and our other elites. 

The only folks experiencing hell would be the rest of  us.

This moment is our political history has been building for two generations.  Damn it, man.  Stop and think; truly think this through.
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What changed in Ryan?
In 2012, he was a deficit hawk?
We all loved the guy.
I wonder who/what got to him in the past few years?



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