Paul Ryan says he saw retirement as an 'escape hatch' from Trump: book

[Bigun]

What changed in Ryan?
In 2012, he was a deficit hawk?
We all loved the guy.
I wonder who/what got to him in the past few years?

His tax attorney/lobbyist wife!  Next question.

[Right_in_Virginia]

What changed in Ryan?
In 2012, he was a deficit hawk?
We all loved the guy.
I wonder who/what got to him in the past few years?

What gets to all of them .... a deal with the devil to hold onto power.

[Cyber Liberty]

What gets to all of them .... a deal with the devil to hold onto power.

A deal that performed...poorly for Ryan.   

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

It is impossible for everyone to be completely happy with even one of the two parties.  Some people are inevitably going to be upset that some of their views are not reflected in the current stance of their preferred party.  I don't quite see how that's a "betrayal", though.

@Jazzhead

Every couple years, you'll get a bunch of mail asking for your vote/money/money/money. 

Compare the positions they claim to support when their hands are out with the positions they support in office.

That's your betrayal.

[bilo]

  The President "radicalized the democrats"?!?!?!  This thesis is 180 degrees from what is really happening. 

The President is forcing the Democrats to shed their moderate skin and expose who they are and always have been.  And he isn't doing it by being "bellicose" .... he is doing it by reawaking the enemy to their real socialist agenda .... the American patriot ...  and refusing to surrender to them.

Just stop and think what a Clinton II presidency would be doing to the sovereignty and military/financial security of this nation.  Sure you'd be loving the sunshine, lollipops and unicorns spit at you by the media and our other elites. 

The only folks experiencing hell would be the rest of  us.

This moment is our political history has been building for two generations.  Damn it, man.  Stop and think; truly think this through.

Well said. Trump is not "slick" in the political environment. He is direct and the political establishment here and around the world can't handle it when they are confronted to their faces.

The Rats are radical leftists and when the "soccer moms" finally figure this out the country will be better for it. I think they will by 2020.

[Bill Cipher]

Well said. Trump is not "slick" in the political environment. He is direct and the political establishment here and around the world can't handle it when they are confronted to their faces.

The Rats are radical leftists and when the "soccer moms" finally figure this out the country will be better for it. I think they will by 2020.

He’s not direct.  He contradicts himself repeatedly, makes promises he cannot, or will not, keep, plays fast and loose with the facts when it suits his thin-skinned ego, and he’s gratuitously offensive.  He has egged on the democrats for no particularly good reason other than satisfying his ego. 

[bilo]

What changed in Ryan?
In 2012, he was a deficit hawk?
We all loved the guy.
I wonder who/what got to him in the past few years?

The same thing that got to Kasich and the rest of the establishment Pubs. When push came to shove they loved being a member of the "old boys club" that answers to the chamber of commerce more than being a conservative American patriot.

[bilo]

He’s not direct.  He contradicts himself repeatedly, makes promises he cannot, or will not, keep, plays fast and loose with the facts when it suits his thin-skinned ego, and he’s gratuitously offensive.  He has egged on the democrats for no particularly good reason other than satisfying his ego.

He is direct. He will confront opponents, or people who don't fulfill agreements to their face. There are countless examples if you want to look.

He does contradict himself. I think this happens because he speaks right off the cuff thinking, or working something out, on an issue simultaneously. It can be frustrating, but he's not a life long politician.

I think he makes promises on occasion that he can't keep because he doesn't fully accept how corrupt the political establishment is.

Playing fast and loose with the facts is not as true as it's made out to be. Often he's ahead of the curve and people interpret "puffing" for lying.

I would agree that he is thin skinned, but I also find it refreshing that he won't put up with crap. He fights back and once you get him started he doesn't stop until he has completely humiliated you. Sure we all want the genteel, humble, super nice guy who gets things done, but it never works out. They always get beaten into submission by the socialists who don't play nice. We now have a guy who fights back like a SOB and does so pushing policies we have been crying for.

[Bigun]

He fights!  Which is more than I can say for any president since Reagan.

[bilo]

He fights!  Which is more than I can say for any president since Reagan.

 

It takes me back to how Lincoln viewed General Grant," Lincoln said that Grant’s conduct was so different from other generals in command that he could scarcely comprehend it.'”

He fights!

Trump isn't Lincoln. He's not the polished Lawyer. He's Grant. He has flaws. He's not smooth. But as Lincoln said, "I can't spare him, he fights".

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Has there ever been a less effective GOP Speaker?

Even Boehner looks reasonable compared to Ryan. the so-called wonder boy who failed to deliver as VP and did very little as Speaker.

Glad he ditched it to pursue his true passion, to retire before 50.

IN NEW BOOK, PAUL RYAN ADMITS HE WAS A FRAUD ALL ALONG
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/paul-ryan-admits-he-was-a-fraud-all-along-tim-alberta-book

[jmyrlefuller]

What changed in Ryan?
In 2012, he was a deficit hawk?
We all loved the guy.
I wonder who/what got to him in the past few years?

He didn't change. He just was never leadership material.

He never wanted the Speaker position but took it because they couldn't get anyone that everyone agreed on. The liberals in the GOP wouldn't accept a Freedom Caucus leader and the Freedom Caucus wouldn't accept Kevin McCarthy, who the establishment wanted. So they settled on Ryan.

But for all the crap Ryan took, they passed most every bill conservatives wanted, while McConnell, who's nowhere near as reviled anymore, allowed Murkowski and McCain to block most of the important priorities and sat by while Democrat Doug Jones get elected to a seat in Alabama.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I think we all can agree that the new Speaker of the House has been far more effective utilizing the power of the seat.  Except for one piece of legislation where the rats were tricked into providing funding for blankets and toothbrushes for the children locked up at the border, the new Speaker has done a remarkable job as a check and balance against the other branches of government.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/738478522813972480

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

So great to have the endorsement and support of Paul Ryan. We will both be working very hard to Make America Great Again!
2:12 PM - 2 Jun 2016

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149516400341348354


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Paul Ryan, the failed V.P. candidate & former Speaker of the House, whose record of achievement was atrocious (except during my first two years as President), ultimately became a long running lame duck failure, leaving his Party in the lurch both as a fundraiser & leader......

....When Mitt chose Paul I told people that’s the end of that Presidential run. He quit Congress because he didn’t know how to Win. They gave me standing O’s in the Great State of Wisconsin, & booed him off the stage. He promised me the Wall, & failed (happening anyway!)......

....He had the Majority & blew it away with his poor leadership and bad timing. Never knew how to go after the Dems like they go after us. Couldn’t get him out of Congress fast enough!

[aligncare]

Well said. Trump is not "slick" in the political environment. He is direct and the political establishment here and around the world can't handle it when they are confronted to their faces.

The Rats are radical leftists and when the "soccer moms" finally figure this out the country will be better for it. I think they will by 2020.

As more states pass these horrific laws that allow taking babies, pre—and some postpartum, who are ready to begin living their lives, waiting with anticipation mother’s loving arms, only to be murdered in the delivery room in order to protect someone’s “choice” *spit*. This is not the world we want to create.

I sure hope soccer moms are watching in disgust, this creeping infanticide brought about by democrat politics.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Donald J. Trump‏
Verified account   @realDonaldTrump

Paul Ryan, the failed V.P. candidate & former Speaker of the House, whose record of achievement was atrocious (except during my first two years as President), ultimately became a long running lame duck failure, leaving his Party in the lurch both as a fundraiser & leader......

....When Mitt chose Paul I told people that’s the end of that Presidential run. He quit Congress because he didn’t know how to Win. They gave me standing O’s in the Great State of Wisconsin, & booed him off the stage. He promised me the Wall, & failed (happening anyway!)......

....He had the Majority & blew it away with his poor leadership and bad timing. Never knew how to go after the Dems like they go after us. Couldn’t get him out of Congress fast enough!


8:10 PM - 11 Jul 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149516403075981314

[Bill Cipher]

He is direct. He will confront opponents, or people who don't fulfill agreements to their face. There are countless examples if you want to look.

He does contradict himself. I think this happens because he speaks right off the cuff thinking, or working something out, on an issue simultaneously. It can be frustrating, but he's not a life long politician.

I think he makes promises on occasion that he can't keep because he doesn't fully accept how corrupt the political establishment is.

Playing fast and loose with the facts is not as true as it's made out to be. Often he's ahead of the curve and people interpret "puffing" for lying.

I would agree that he is thin skinned, but I also find it refreshing that he won't put up with crap. He fights back and once you get him started he doesn't stop until he has completely humiliated you. Sure we all want the genteel, humble, super nice guy who gets things done, but it never works out. They always get beaten into submission by the socialists who don't play nice. We now have a guy who fights back like a SOB and does so pushing policies we have been crying for.

Right.  Where’s that wall, by the way?  What ever happened to denuclearization of North Korea?

What about deporting those millions of illegal aliens? 

None of that happened.  Because Trump can’t negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag when it comes to political matters, as opposed to separating fools from their money on his real estate boondoggles and reality TV shows. 

[Rivergirl]

Have we ever had a president who was able to contradict himself at least once in every sentence.
He slams our allies from afar and then in person he turns on the charm.  Ineffective, inconsistent, and a true bully.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Have we ever had a president who was able to contradict himself at least once in every sentence.
He slams our allies from afar and then in person he turns on the charm.  Ineffective, inconsistent, and a true bully.

Maybe you should listen to the President directly and give CNN a rest for a while. @Rivergirl

Just sayin'   

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Maybe you should listen to the President directly and give CNN a rest for a while. @Rivergirl

Just sayin'   

Indeed.  Don't believe the haters, the fake news, and his press conferences.  Listen to the President yourself and learn how he single-handedly brought back the American Dream.  He defeated ISIS, created 98 million new jobs, border crossings have been reduced to one a week, and he brought all of America together in a spirit of furious anger.  Hopefully today he will put tariffs on everything so we can go back to the way America was when she was great!

[bilo]

Right.  Where’s that wall, by the way?  What ever happened to denuclearization of North Korea?

What about deporting those millions of illegal aliens? 

None of that happened.  Because Trump can’t negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag when it comes to political matters, as opposed to separating fools from their money on his real estate boondoggles and reality TV shows.

Okay, so you want to change the focus of the discussion.

The wall is being built, not as fast as any of us would like but it is moving forward and it is not a fence of corrugated tin.

The issue of illegal immigration has swung over to Trump's side despite the best efforts of the Rats and Chamber of Congress Pubs to stop it. He is moving ahead with the deportations.

Just like the Rats, when push comes to shove the discussion reverts to a personal attack of the individual when all else fails along with what ever he does is not enough.

I've never seen a POTUS fight like this guy. He just doesn't quit. I didn't trust him when he ran for office because he was a lifelong NY liberal. I was wrong. He's done, or tried to do what he said he would. He deserves our support.

[bilo]

Have we ever had a president who was able to contradict himself at least once in every sentence.
He slams our allies from afar and then in person he turns on the charm.  Ineffective, inconsistent, and a true bully.

This seems to be the new talking point on the left.

I've always thought bullies were those who picked on people that couldn't defend themselves and who never did anything to the bully.

From what I've seen Trump only attacks those that have attacked him. It's unusual to see a Pub fight back and even more a Pub who once he response to an attack doesn't let up until he has completely humiliated his opponent. I don't think this is bullying.

[catfish1957]

This seems to be the new talking point on the left.

I've always thought bullies were those who picked on people that couldn't defend themselves and who never did anything to the bully.

From what I've seen Trump only attacks those that have attacked him. It's unusual to see a Pub fight back and even more a Pub who once he response to an attack doesn't let up until he has completely humiliated his opponent. I don't think this is bullying.

Trump may have the thinnest skin I have ever seen in a public figure.  What is sad, is that he is too obtuse to realize that he is often baited.

[Rivergirl]

Some people are truly living in a yellow submarine.
Or as it is commonly referred to...……..alternative universe.

[Bigun]

Some people are truly living in a yellow submarine.
Or as it is commonly referred to...……..alternative universe.

And some have not the most remote clue about what's actually going on.