Author Topic: Can a serious Democrat please run for president? (Read 5425 times)

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #75 on:** July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 11, 2019, 06:33:06 pm

I don't give a crap about the big blue rhinestone 'D', anymore than I do the big red rhinestone 'R'. Both of em are full of crap, and against the American people.

Voting for either one because of the designation is just as bad.
Communist imposition run by the UN, or global socialist 'New World Order' run out of the board rooms... Take your pick.

Classic liberalism is a whole lot closer to Conservatism than either party - As a proponent and fan of the Intellectual Dark Web, you should have noticed that by now.

@Sanguine

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

That is why @Sanguine says that, I believe.

And I agree with that sentiment.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #76 on:** July 14, 2019, 07:48:54 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

That is why @Sanguine says that, I believe.

And I agree with that sentiment.

You cut right to the bottom line with that one sentence, friend. Zell talked a really good talk, but he was a Rat at heart when it came to forcing their commie agenda down our throats, starting with a vote for Majority Leader. Did he make some good votes? Sure, especially compared to some Pubbies and a lot of Rats, but that very first vote in January is the most important.

The same applies to Manchin.

Bigun · « **Reply #77 on:** July 14, 2019, 07:49:53 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

That is why @Sanguine says that, I believe.

And I agree with that sentiment.

Not to mention following the party line at every turn unless allowed to deviate by managment.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 14, 2019, 07:51:06 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

That is why @Sanguine says that, I believe.

And I agree with that sentiment.

LOL! Because Republican leadership is any different from Democrat leadership?
You've got to be kidding me.

But Zell also would be voting with conservatives on social issues and on fiscal issues, more often than not, and that makes Zell way more an ally to Conservatism than McConnell or McCain't have ever been. Even dead, btw.

Sanguine · « **Reply #79 on:** July 14, 2019, 08:12:26 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

That is why @Sanguine says that, I believe.

And I agree with that sentiment.

Exactly!

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #80 on:** July 14, 2019, 09:55:31 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 14, 2019, 07:51:06 pm

LOL! Because Republican leadership is any different from Democrat leadership?
You've got to be kidding me.

So it is your belief that GOP leadership in the Senate would ram down the throats of the Senate the nominations of Sotomayor and Kagan to the Supreme Court, right?

You must also think that Chuck Schumer would have held up debate on the nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court like Mitch did, right?

You are the one who is kidding, right?

roamer_1 · « **Reply #81 on:** July 14, 2019, 10:00:28 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 09:55:31 pm

So it is your belief that GOP leadership in the Senate would ram down the throats of the Senate the nominations of Sotomayor and Kagan to the Supreme Court, right?

You must also think that Chuck Schumer would have held up debate on the nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court like Mitch did, right?

You are the one who is kidding, right?

I believe that it is left-foot and right-foot of the same dang thing.
Those that get all wrapped up in this partisanship game are fools and sheep lead to slaughter.

Hoodat · « **Reply #82 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:06:40 am »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 14, 2019, 07:44:23 pm

Because if Zell was still in office as a Democrat he would be voting for Chuck Schumer as his leader.

Exactly. In 2001, with 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, 1 Independent, and 1 hard line Communist making up the Senate, Zell's vote put Tom Daschle in the Majority Leader seat.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #83 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:10:26 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on July 15, 2019, 12:06:40 am

Exactly. In 2001, with 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, 1 Independent, and 1 hard line Communist making up the Senate, Zell's vote put Tom Daschle in the Majority Leader seat.

So what?

Seems to me that Republicans would do much better worrying about their own house than hating on the Democrats. What makes a coalition unified is a common set of principles.
Currently, the only thing that matters is hating democrats.
That is not enough.

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #84 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:52:16 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 14, 2019, 10:00:28 pm

I believe that it is left-foot and right-foot of the same dang thing.
Those that get all wrapped up in this partisanship game are fools and sheep lead to slaughter.

No answer. Obvious dodge.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #85 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:03:37 am »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 15, 2019, 12:52:16 am

No answer. Obvious dodge.

Not a dodge at all. It is exactly what I think...
And as predicted by our founders, btw, who hated the thought of partisanship.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #86 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:07:37 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 15, 2019, 12:10:26 am

Seems to me that Republicans would do much better worrying about their own house than hating on the Democrats.

The Republicans, for the most part, are worrying about the American house. The top 2020 agenda item is stopping the real and present danger to our Union presented by the liberal socialists masquerading as Democrats.

It is not about hating them ... it's about defeating them.

Hoodat · « **Reply #87 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:08:07 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 15, 2019, 12:10:26 am

So what?

Seems to me that Republicans would do much better worrying about their own house than hating on the Democrats. What makes a coalition unified is a common set of principles.
Currently, the only thing that matters is hating democrats.
That is not enough.

Agreed. Republicans have an uncanny propensity for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #88 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:19:10 am »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 15, 2019, 01:07:37 am

The Republicans, for the most part, are worrying about the American house. The top 2020 agenda item is stopping the real and present danger to our Union presented by the liberal socialists masquerading as Democrats.

It is not about hating them ... it's about defeating them.

LOL! no they're not. They are instilling globalism. The battle is between old school socialism run out of the UN vs kinder/gentler New Word Order socialism run out of board rooms.

If what you said was true, the very first thing would be to tear the handles of power away from the moderate wing of the Republicans, and give them to the Conservative wing.

That is not what happened. Nor will it happen this go-around.

MItch 'the Turtle' McConnell and Lindsay 'freakin Twinkletoes' Graham have more power than ever. And most of the Conservatives have been defamed or ground up through the revolving doors of this administration.

You are not preaching federalism, fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, or anything else that would be a true and healing balm to this country.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #89 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:22:07 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on July 15, 2019, 01:08:07 am

Agreed. Republicans have an uncanny propensity for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

That's right. The only thing left that you must search out to believe is that that is by design.

Hoodat · « **Reply #90 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:35:10 am »

We're at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #91 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:40:18 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on July 15, 2019, 01:35:10 am

We're at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

No, we are at war with Babylon.

Hoodat · « **Reply #92 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:53:03 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 15, 2019, 01:40:18 am

No, we are at war with Babylon.

Technically, yes.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #93 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:55:08 am »

https://www.theonion.com/midwest-peace-talks-shattered-by-illinois-toll-booth-bo-1819564942

bigheadfred · « **Reply #94 on:** July 15, 2019, 01:58:23 am »

Merely my opinion.

The dems don't care if they can field a good candidate because they are convinced no matter who they pick, they ARE going to win.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #95 on:** July 15, 2019, 02:00:22 am »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 15, 2019, 01:40:18 am

No, we are at war with Babylon.

That explains that whore Kamala.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #96 on:** July 15, 2019, 02:00:24 am »

Quote from: bigheadfred on July 15, 2019, 01:58:23 am

Merely my opinion.

The dems don't care if they can field a good candidate because they are convinced no matter who they pick, they ARE going to win.

Just like always.

LegalAmerican · « **Reply #97 on:** July 15, 2019, 02:11:50 am »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 11, 2019, 03:53:23 pm

This might be ominously a setup to select Michelle Obama as the nominee.

Strange isn't it that someone like her, eminently unqualified and unserious most of her "first time I am proud to be an American" life, might be more sane than what is currently the Democrat field?

WHAT? That is a man.
http://youtu.be/WSmOuX6DtVU

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LegalAmerican · « **Reply #98 on:** July 15, 2019, 02:18:04 am »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 15, 2019, 01:07:37 am

The Republicans, for the most part, are worrying about the American house. The top 2020 agenda item is stopping the real and present danger to our Union presented by the liberal socialists masquerading as Democrats.

It is not about hating them ... it's about defeating them.

Yes.

I agree, and with RINO'S like these with demon-rats...how can our country survive? Then Lindsey Graham, who said if Trump fires SESSIONS..his presidency will be over..and no one will support his agenda. I think people need to look at CONGRESS..not president TRUMP.
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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency at border.

Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,

Rob Portman of Ohio,
Susan Collins of Maine,
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
Roy Blunt of Missouri,
Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

Mitt Romney of Utah,

Rand Paul of Kentucky,

Jerry Moran of Kansas

and Mike Lee of Utah.

sneakypete · « **Reply #99 on:** July 15, 2019, 03:17:29 am »

Quote from: LegalAmerican on July 15, 2019, 02:18:04 am

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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency at border.

Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,

Rob Portman of Ohio,
Susan Collins of Maine,
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
Roy Blunt of Missouri,
Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

Mitt Romney of Utah,

Rand Paul of Kentucky,

Jerry Moran of Kansas

and Mike Lee of Utah.

@LegalAmerican

Truthfully,is anyone surprised by a single name on that list?