Can a serious Democrat please run for president?

[sneakypete]

No, not buzzed at all.   I'm clear-eyed and sober,  and see the future in stark relief -  if Trump if the GOP nominee,  he will not be re-elected, and the Senate will likely be gone too. 

@Jazzhead

So,you are just naturally delusional?

There is nothing more important right now than to avoid that terrible result.   

Yeah,whatever we do,we MUST keep the backstabbing RINO bastards in power,huh?

Pray tell,what would be the difference in the way the Senate votes,since half the alleged Republican we have now talk a good game,but always work with the left?

What we NEED to do is get rid of a bunch of those SOB's in the primary,and replace them with younger people the DNC doesn't have any blackmail on.

[sneakypete]

It is not even August yet, and more than a year before the election.   The die is not cast.   

@Jazzhead

OK,bubba,how about throw out a few names of people that can beat him for the nomination?

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead

OK,bubba,how about throw out a few names of people that can beat him for the nomination?

I am not suggesting that primary-ing Trump would be successful.   I am advocating that he be persuaded not to run for reelection, a la LBJ.   It am not urging that Trump be replaced by a "RINO" or Never-Trumper.   I want him to be replaced by a compatible candidate who can defeat the Democrat by appealing to both Republicans and independents,  help keep the Senate in GOP hands,  and thereby preserve Trump's policies and legacy.   That is a far better result than Trump running a quixotic campaign for re-election that ends in disaster for the GOP and triumph for a newly-radicalized Democratic party. 

I've suggested Trump's former U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley,  who left the Administration on good terms,  as a possible GOP nominee.   Another good choice might be Liz Cheney, who's defended the President and shows real capacity for inspiration and leadership.   A Never-Trumper like Romney would split the party.     

[truth_seeker]

Has Haley expressed interest? No.

Kasich, Amash, Flake, McMuffin have. Gives the GOP their own stupid Squad of Four.

[sneakypete]

I am not suggesting that primary-ing Trump would be successful.   I am advocating that he be persuaded not to run for reelection, a la LBJ.   It am not urging that Trump be replaced by a "RINO" or Never-Trumper.   I want him to be replaced by a compatible candidate who can defeat the Democrat by appealing to both Republicans and independents,  help keep the Senate in GOP hands,  and thereby preserve Trump's policies and legacy.   That is a far better result than Trump running a quixotic campaign for re-election that ends in disaster for the GOP and triumph for a newly-radicalized Democratic party. 

I've suggested Trump's former U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley,  who left the Administration on good terms,  as a possible GOP nominee.   Another good choice might be Liz Cheney, who's defended the President and shows real capacity for inspiration and leadership.   A Never-Trumper like Romney would split the party.     

@Jazzhead

Ok,you named a couple of at least semi-reasonable names at first glance,but what makes you sure either would stand up to the pressure that would be put on them if they got the nomination? Neither are experienced at Presidential runs,and the wolves would be nipping at their heels and hoping to spook them. ONE slip by either,and the news and the political establishment would be demanding they step down in favor of one of the usual suspect/party insider they know they can control.

AND.......either would lose because they would refuse to fight.

[sneakypete]

Has Haley expressed interest? No.

Kasich, Amash, Flake, McMuffin have.

@truth_seeker

Are any of them actual conservatives? Flake might be,but it's been a while since I heard anything from him.

If they are just unleaded Republicans,what good are they for anything but caving to the left?

[berdie]

Flake??? Are we talking about the same person?

[Jazzhead]

Flake??? Are we talking about the same person?

I view Flake as a Goldwaterite.

[Sanguine]

I view Flake as a Goldwaterite.

Jeff Flake?  The Jeff Flake?

[Cyber Liberty]

I view Flake as a Goldwaterite.

I'd get that view to an optometrist.  Barry would have detested that turncoat. I knew Barry Goldwater, and you, sir are no Goldwater.

[Jazzhead]

Goldwater was my first political hero.  I read COAC when I was in junior high.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

It is not even August yet, and more than a year before the election.   The die is not cast.   

Okay...

1) Even if Trump drops out, the other contenders would have to run in primaries, which means getting campaigns off the ground, etc..  At what point in time do you believe it will be too late as a practical matter for other candidates to enter the primary?

2) Can you please point to some significant, objective evidence that Trump is actually persuadable in terms of stepping down.  Not just a feeling that you think he might do it, but some actual evidence of him being willing to drop out.  Because I don't see even a sliver of it.

@Jazzhead

[Right_in_Virginia]

I view Flake as a Goldwaterite.

Jeff "Hello Global Citizens" Flake?