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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2019, 03:57:36 am »
EVERY name on that list should be primaried in a national effort to get rid of all of them.

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2019, 04:14:44 am »
Not a dodge at all. It is exactly what I think...
And as predicted by our founders, btw, who hated the thought of partisanship.

Ahhh....the irony.    :laugh:



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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2019, 04:20:05 am »
Ahhh....the irony.    :laugh:

You misspelled prophecy.
They were dang well right.


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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2019, 01:05:51 pm »

Yes.   

I agree, and with RINO'S like these with demon-rats...how can our country survive?  Then Lindsey Graham, who said if Trump fires SESSIONS..his presidency will be over..and no one will support his agenda. I think people need to look at CONGRESS..not president TRUMP.
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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency at border.

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

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and Mike Lee of Utah.

Those 12 Republicans will be proven prescient after the Dems take over after 2020 and declare a national emergency to give the President executive powers to fight climate change.    The WSJ in this morning's edition:

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  [C]onservatives who applaud Mr. Trump's run around Congress should think again.  Progressives will exploit the precedent for their own purposes

It is always a mistake to sacrifice principal for expedience.   Conservatives were right to oppose President Obama's executive orders,  but expose their lack of principles by excusing such imperialism as practiced by President Trump. 
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2019, 01:33:23 pm »
Those 12 Republicans will be proven prescient after the Dems take over after 2020 and declare a national emergency to give the President executive powers to fight climate change.    The WSJ in this morning's edition:

It is always a mistake to sacrifice principal for expedience.   Conservatives were right to oppose President Obama's executive orders,  but expose their lack of principles by excusing such imperialism as practiced by President Trump.

Defending our borders is an actually Constitutionally mandated function of the federal government; climate change not so much.

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2019, 01:42:24 pm »
Defending our borders is an actually Constitutionally mandated function of the federal government; climate change not so much.

Besides, if the Rats win everything because of Trump's stupidity, as is constantly repeated by some Members, then they won't need EOs to get their way, the Rats can just ram anything they want through Congress as they did with Obastardcare.

The "polls" all say he's losing big (just like in 2016) and they're believed by many.  May as well pack it in now.  Get the survival gear and ammo before there's a run on it.   *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2019, 01:49:03 pm »
Those 12 Republicans will be proven prescient after the Dems take over after 2020 and declare a national emergency to give the President executive powers to fight climate change.    The WSJ in this morning's edition:

It is always a mistake to sacrifice principal for expedience.   Conservatives were right to oppose President Obama's executive orders,  but expose their lack of principles by excusing such imperialism as practiced by President Trump.

BTW the Wall Street Journal has zero credibility where border security is concerned.

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« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2019, 03:40:24 pm »

It is always a mistake to sacrifice principal for expedience.   Conservatives were right to oppose President Obama's executive orders,  but expose their lack of principles by excusing such imperialism as practiced by President Trump.

That is exactly true.

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« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2019, 03:47:31 pm »
That is exactly true.

This is problematic because the Courts have established an "Obastard EO Supremacy Doctrine," where Trump cannot reverse EOs written by Obastard.  A Doctrine that has been written about in glowing terms on these pages.

Used to be what can be done by an Executive Order can be undone by Executive Order.  Those days are gone, which increases the likelihood it will take bloodshed to return the country to it's original course.  The Doctrine made Obastard a King, not an Executive.
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2019, 03:52:17 pm »
This is problematic because the Courts have established an "Obastard EO Supremacy Doctrine," where Trump cannot reverse EOs written by Obastard.  A Doctrine that has been written about in glowing terms on these pages.

Used to be what can be done by an Executive Order can be undone by Executive Order.  Those days are gone, which increases the likelihood it will take bloodshed to return the country to it's original course.  The Doctrine made Obastard a King, not an Executive.

And folks are assuming the same to be true of Tump... cheering every EO like mad... When all of it is nothing but dust in the wind.

Not very long ago, Conservatives scorned presidents that ruled by EO - and not just Obama - Long before that. I still do.

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #110 on: July 15, 2019, 04:41:22 pm »
And folks are assuming the same to be true of Tump... cheering every EO like mad... When all of it is nothing but dust in the wind.

Not very long ago, Conservatives scorned presidents that ruled by EO - and not just Obama - Long before that. I still do.

The Obastard Doctrine does not apply to Republican Presidents. 

ETA:  Forswearing the use of EOs merely guarantees King Obastard's continued Supremacy. 
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #111 on: July 15, 2019, 04:44:24 pm »
This is problematic because the Courts have established an "Obastard EO Supremacy Doctrine," where Trump cannot reverse EOs written by Obastard.  A Doctrine that has been written about in glowing terms on these pages.

Used to be what can be done by an Executive Order can be undone by Executive Order.  Those days are gone, which increases the likelihood it will take bloodshed to return the country to it's original course.  The Doctrine made Obastard a King, not an Executive.

Absolutely not true.  The courts have simply held that due process prevents the arbitrary denial of a benefit granted, even if the granting of the benefit was initially via discretionary EO.  That is an ancient principle that long predates Obama. 

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #112 on: July 15, 2019, 04:47:55 pm »
Absolutely not true.  The courts have simply held that due process prevents the arbitrary denial of a benefit granted, even if the granting of the benefit was initially via discretionary EO.  That is an ancient principle that long predates Obama.

A Doctrine now applied almost universally to Obastard EOs. 
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2019, 04:56:13 pm »
A Doctrine now applied almost universally to Obastard EOs. 

Gee, whatever happened to “just the facts” and no innuendo or speculation?  First, provide evidence of this “universal” application.
Second, if the EOs gave vested benefits, then due process requires that they be treated that way.  That’s the law. 

Or are we no longer in favor of applying the law?

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2019, 05:00:00 pm »
Gee, whatever happened to “just the facts” and no innuendo or speculation?  First, provide evidence of this “universal” application.
Second, if the EOs gave vested benefits, then due process requires that they be treated that way.  That’s the law. 

Or are we no longer in favor of applying the law?

It's an odd little creature that you seem to have a problem discerning.  It's called an "opinion."  I've heard tell you have some too, but yours are Golden.
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2019, 05:10:09 pm »
Gee, whatever happened to “just the facts” and no innuendo or speculation?

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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #116 on: July 15, 2019, 05:15:50 pm »
lol

This is an opinion forum, and the theory is I can't have one because of the red boxes over my Avatar.   :shrug:
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #117 on: July 15, 2019, 05:21:00 pm »
Innuendo and speculation is only allowed to those unable to locate the abortion right in the US Constitution when pressed.
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #118 on: July 15, 2019, 05:31:37 pm »
Innuendo and speculation is only allowed to those unable to locate the abortion right in the US Constitution when pressed.

Or the "Predicate Clause" in the Second Amendment that allows the Government to force registration, insurance and eventual confiscation of personal firearms from law-abiding Citizens.
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #119 on: July 15, 2019, 05:37:12 pm »
Or the "Predicate Clause" in the Second Amendment that allows the Government to force registration, insurance and eventual confiscation of personal firearms from law-abiding Citizens.

Or the language that makes judges Kings.
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« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2019, 06:04:37 pm »
Or the language that makes judges Kings.

It took a century or two of judicial malpractice to get them Coronated, but there they are.  To the applause of only lawyers (and there they are too.  Courtiers).  All the makings of a 21st Century Feudal system.
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Re: Can a serious Democrat please run for president?
« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2019, 06:39:47 pm »
It is a shame that the Dems are reacting to Trump's professional wrestling-style themes of divisiveness, bombast and conflict by doubling down with the same.   It will be difficult if not impossible for any adult in the room to break through the cheering anti-Trump media, which exults in the hate.   
 

Maybe that explains why Trump does it in the first place....Because it is working.

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« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2019, 07:32:43 pm »
Maybe that explains why Trump does it in the first place....Because it is working.

It is one hell of a gamble to deliberately radicalize (and motivate) your opponent in the hope they become too radicalized to win the election.   If it works,  solid, but if it fails we may well see the end of the Republic.   
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« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2019, 07:37:56 pm »
It is one hell of a gamble to deliberately radicalize (and motivate) your opponent in the hope they become too radicalized to win the election.   If it works,  solid, but if it fails we may well see the end of the Republic.

The dreaded Trump Tweets seem to be having the effect of convincing the Rats to drop their moderate masks, and telling us what they really think.
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« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2019, 08:18:17 pm »
The dreaded Trump Tweets seem to be having the effect of convincing the Rats to drop their moderate masks, and telling us what they really think.

Sorry Cyber - That has not been behind a mask. We have all known the liberal agenda for a very, very long time.