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That's right. But if tomorrow you suddenly started drinkin and whorin around... What is your past worth then?

I'm thinking about drinking now.  As for if I did the wrong things tomorrow (and, I will, I'm not perfect yet) the same thing applies.  I try to do better and try to do what God wants me to do.

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I'm thinking about drinking now.  As for if I did the wrong things tomorrow (and, I will, I'm not perfect yet) the same thing applies.  I try to do better and try to do what God wants me to do.

I get that. And forgive me - That statement was for effect, and I would never think it of you, because I know you well enough to judge your character. A woman of your caliber is not likely to behave that way. Certain principles apply.

But that, then, is the point.

And let me clarify... I will not vote for Tump under any circumstance.
I am not there with Cruz. He can make it back. But my former judgement of his character has been deeply shaken.

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I didn't even bother to vote for him in the last TX election.

I wonder how many Texans felt that way... Maybe enough to explain his poor showing?

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I wonder how many Texans felt that way... Maybe enough to explain his poor showing?

   OTOH, it could be the regular Trumpers showing their casual hate by not voting for him either, after all, Abbott did get 4m votes more on the same republican ticket AND Cruz pizzing off some Conservatives for accepting a deal with the Trump, (what next more McConnell)?   Double Whammy!, explaining a 2% victory margin, If Cornyn wins in 2020 by any larger margin, I believe it proves my point.
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   OTOH, it could be the regular Trumpers showing their casual hate by not voting for him either, after all, Abbott did get 4m votes more on the same republican ticket AND Cruz pizzing off some Conservatives for accepting a deal with the Trump, (what next more McConnell)?   Double Whammy!, explaining a 2% victory margin, If Cornyn wins in 2020 by any larger margin, I believe it proves my point.

I don't think they have that much kick... Although I live in a place where I have yet to see a maga hat, so maybe my perspective is off.

I DO know that Conservatives in Texas have that much kick. That makes more sense to me as the catalyst - Though I do admit that both probably apply.

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Who are you calling "dumb?"

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I get that. And forgive me - That statement was for effect, and I would never think it of you, because I know you well enough to judge your character. A woman of your caliber is not likely to behave that way. Certain principles apply.

But that, then, is the point.

And let me clarify... I will not vote for Tump under any circumstance.
I am not there with Cruz. He can make it back. But my former judgement of his character has been deeply shaken.

Thank you, @roamer_1, and no apologies needed.

Let me posit that Trump, with all of his many and multitudinous faults (I've had a sip of Dewar's now) is not the issue.  Nor is Cruz. 

The whole world is upside down and flat-out crazy.  In a sane world, Donald Trump would not have been elected, nor would he have been seen as being an antidote to anything.  Trump is a symptom of that craziness, and unfortunately for us, the alternatives are even worse.   

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Thank you, @roamer_1, and no apologies needed.

Let me posit that Trump, with all of his many and multitudinous faults (I've had a sip of Dewar's now) is not the issue.  Nor is Cruz

The whole world is upside down and flat-out crazy.  In a sane world, Donald Trump would not have been elected, nor would he have been seen as being an antidote to anything.  Trump is a symptom of that craziness, and unfortunately for us, the alternatives are even worse.

While I do agree wholeheartedly with you in the spirit of the thing, I will not hold Cruz blameless.
Tumpy the Clown doesn't matter to me, but Cruz does.

Cruz and Pence (and far more so Cruz) were the spearhead of the TEA party.
To whom much is given, much is required.

And that ain't working out.  :shrug:

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    Because some of us Conservatives here don't give President Trump carte blanc, we are kooks, in your book. I'm OK with that @truth_seeker it perfectly explains some of you Trumpers attitude toward some of us here.  Carry On.
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A false choice, @berdie , as always - The lesser evil is a poor argument.

What has soured me on Cruz is two-fold:

That he cow-tows to Tump after the very personal wreckage Tump made of his life during the campaign is just plain unconscionable. All he ought to give that clown is a dot on his eye. And for what he did to Cruz's family - well, were it me, he'd not have any teeth left.

That otherwise has happened is a dilemma in character that any western man would understand, not to mention servile cooperation.

And that cooperation - voting for massive spending and big government bullcrap is a slap in the face to every TEA party member that used to hold him in high esteem. His shifting principles and failure to defend the honor of his wife and his father leave me questioning his backbone, and left me with a very sour taste.




Well, @roamer_1 . ...I really don't have a huge beef with Cruz. He's a politician so I wasn't surprised. I feel like I did vote my principles. These arm flapping, socialist spewing politicians definitely do not represent anything I believe in. I don't want them in power.  I have become a cynic when it comes to politics and politicians. They are all a bunch of liars. If you keep that in mind...you won't be disappointed.

I try to pick to most conservative candidate running. That totally cancels out the Dems, lol. The third parties don't stand a chance. I think the Libertarians have a couple in Congress (or did). But I really don't agree with their party platform.

I would have loved to see Cruz kick fanny as well.  I know my dearly departed would have. But he was a plumber...not a politician. (thank God)  Cruz is doing what we elected him to do.  I think Reagan said...I'd rather have someone that votes with me 80 per cent of the time instead of someone with zero times.

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I guess now I'm voting defensively.

This fiscal game is lost, we are too far in debt and too far gone to fix it.

The reason I don't want any Dems in power is because the party is rapidly becoming nothing but holy robe, funny hat, witch burning SJW revolutionaries that want us put into camps and exterminated.

If I can stop that and avoid civil war or death squads, I'll take it. When the economy goes to crap, I can survive that, but the other is far more dicey.
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I guess now I'm voting defensively.

This fiscal game is lost, we are too far in debt and too far gone to fix it.

The reason I don't want any Dems in power is because the party is rapidly becoming nothing but holy robe, funny hat, witch burning SJW revolutionaries that want us put into camps and exterminated.

If I can stop that and avoid civil war or death squads, I'll take it. When the economy goes to crap, I can survive that, but the other is far more dicey.

I am with you on that.  Have to stop any Dems wherever possible.

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I just saw this....I have one question then @truth_seeker

If this is a kook site what does that make you by being here?

LOL!  Getting a big kick out of this.

Ted Cruz, himself, says that we all have to get behind THIS President to stop Socialism...and well, some 'Conservatives' on the forum STILL have a 'Problem' with that?

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Why do you post on a "3rd party kook site?"  You don't have to, you know.

How many members here are screaming 3rd party?  One maybe Two?  Even me, as much as I dislike Trump with be holding my nose, and voting for him November 2020.  The 20 bozos who took stage this week force us into that quandary. 

Just one more example of a poster here who uses the screeen name akin to "Seeker of The Truth"  Who consistently contradicts that meme. 
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LOL!  Getting a big kick out of this.

Ted Cruz, himself, says that we all have to get behind THIS President to stop Socialism...and well, some 'Conservatives' on the forum STILL have a 'Problem' with that?

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What does 'Ted Cruz himself' have to do with anything? Conservatives follow Conservatism, not Ted Cruz.

And how are all y'all going to 'save us from socialism' by backing a guy practicing socialism?

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How many members here are screaming 3rd party?

Not even me. If the Republican party would actually practice what it preaches, I would have never strayed. I will probably be preaching 3rd party yet again this year however, because there is no conservatism being practiced therein even yet.

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   OTOH, it could be the regular Trumpers showing their casual hate by not voting for him either, after all, Abbott did get 4m votes more on the same republican ticket AND Cruz pizzing off some Conservatives for accepting a deal with the Trump, (what next more McConnell)?   Double Whammy!, explaining a 2% victory margin, If Cornyn wins in 2020 by any larger margin, I believe it proves my point.

Thanks.



The race for biggest Cruz supporter award that actually never agrees with anything Cruz says or does should be tight this year but I think you'll be at the finish line.

Okay, maybe not "never agrees" but enough to make it a valid statement.

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G-d bless To-Whose-Benefit, that one time, he got on my case for posting a story that had "far-right" in the headline. Sometimes, I think people have things happen in their personal life and then, will say something here. You know, when that happened, that was the beginning of the bad news it seemed. It's not easy for me to say that... but there are often reasons someone might post something, you know, not acceptable...

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The race for biggest Cruz supporter award that actually never agrees with anything Cruz says or does should be tight this year but I think you'll be at the finish line.

Okay, maybe not "never agrees" but enough to make it a valid statement.

Knock me over with a feather.

Addendum: I thought for sure we had a trophy emoticon, we probably do and I just missed it, I looked about 4 times.

I'll look for one....
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