Trump delays ICE raids two weeks to see if Congress can 'work out a solution'

[EdJames]

@libertybele


There is nothing conservative about people like you. You use that label to hide behind while operating like Storm Troopers. What you are is religious fascists.

SP, you paint with far too broad of a brush....  there are many of us that are none of the things that you describe, but remain profoundly disappointed at the utter, broad failures with immigration and the border.

Especially since he is never honest with us about it.  The BS doesn't work anymore.

[txradioguy]

SP, you paint with far too broad of a brush....  there are many of us that are none of the things that you describe, but remain profoundly disappointed at the utter, broad failures with immigration and the border.

Especially since he is never honest with us about it.  The BS doesn't work anymore.

One thing you have to understand about ol' Pete...either you support everything Trump does 110% of the time...even when what he does is a flip flop of what he originally said or promised...or you're a dirty Hillary supporter.


There is no middle ground with him.

[austingirl]

Just heard on Fox Business that Mexico is sending 15,000 troops to their NORTHERN border to help control the border. Hope this is true.

[DCPatriot]

Today, a distraught caller finally got thru in Rush's 3rd hour today...pissed off that all day, he NEVER commented, or explained away, the capitulation to Pelosi regarding the canceling of the targeted deportations.

Rush essentially said the same thing I did the other day (yesterday)?  that he was going to draw the democrats out on their refusal to work with him on immigration.   Own it was a campaign issue. 

And just like Rush, I too, said I was disappointed that it's getting a bit too predictable for me....backing off on his initial threat.

Maybe it's because.....  I WANT BLOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!   

[txradioguy]

Maybe it's because.....  I WANT BLOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!   

We need to apply the "Chicago Way" to the Iranians. 150 dead IRGC soldiers as retaliation for shooting down a drone would have been a good start.

[DCPatriot]

We need to apply the "Chicago Way" to the Iranians. 150 dead IRGC soldiers as retaliation for shooting down a drone would have been a good start.

Schlicter is right.  IRAN would have been a huge trap for the President.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we'd lost one of our Top Guns, an Iranian Air Base would be s smouldering ruins today.

But fool me once.... as the saying goes.

To pull back...or even broadcast the operation?

Rush said, as with any marketing plan, you never tell the customer how your'e going to separate him from his money.   You just execute it.

I'm at a loss...getting tired after 4 years and nothing changed at the border.

This is BULLSHIT!!!   

[txradioguy]

Schlicter is right.  IRAN would have been a huge trap for the President.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we'd lost one of our Top Guns, an Iranian Air Base would be s smouldering ruins today.

But fool me once.... as the saying goes.

To pull back...or even broadcast the operation?

Rush said, as with any marketing plan, you never tell the customer how your'e going to separate him from his money.   You just execute it.

I'm at a loss...getting tired after 4 years and nothing changed at the border.

This is BULLSHIT!!!   

IMHO a measured response like the radar installations...actions similar to how Reagan handled them in the 80's isn't a trap.  It's effective and proven.

I share your frustration with the border.

[libertybele]

Just heard on Fox Business that Mexico is sending 15,000 troops to their NORTHERN border to help control the border. Hope this is true.

Yes, I heard this as well and I hope that it is true and that they are successful in curtailing the invasion.  I want this President to succeed.

[libertybele]

Schlicter is right.  IRAN would have been a huge trap for the President.

There's no doubt in my mind that if we'd lost one of our Top Guns, an Iranian Air Base would be s smouldering ruins today.

But fool me once.... as the saying goes.

To pull back...or even broadcast the operation?

Rush said, as with any marketing plan, you never tell the customer how your'e going to separate him from his money.   You just execute it.

I'm at a loss...getting tired after 4 years and nothing changed at the border.

This is BULLSHIT!!!   

  

[sneakypete]

One thing you have to understand about ol' Pete...either you support everything Trump does 110% of the time...even when what he does is a flip flop of what he originally said or promised...or you're a dirty Hillary supporter.


There is no middle ground with him.

@txradioguy

Typical kneejerk NT reaction.

[Chosen Daughter]

One thing you have to understand about ol' Pete...either you support everything Trump does 110% of the time...even when what he does is a flip flop of what he originally said or promised...or you're a dirty Hillary supporter.


There is no middle ground with him.

[Chosen Daughter]

One thing you have to understand about ol' Pete...either you support everything Trump does 110% of the time...even when what he does is a flip flop of what he originally said or promised...or you're a dirty Hillary supporter.


There is no middle ground with him.

I'm just a dirty Christian to him.  He always targets my faith.  I made a mistake in sympathizing with him when he told me how oppressive the Christians were when he was growing up.  Now if I don't talk nice about Trump he goes straight to my Christianity.  So I never did anything to him so he can't be believed anymore.  For all I know he just hates God.

[dancer]

Y'all know that the acting DHS leader, Kevin McAleenan leaked the plan to the WashCompost, right?  PDJT had to call it off. 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet//mattvespa/2019/06/24/oh-so-thats-who-scuttled-the-trump-administrations-planned-ice-raids-n2548810

[sneakypete]

I'm just a dirty Christian to him.  He always targets my faith.  I made a mistake in sympathizing with him when he told me how oppressive the Christians were when he was growing up.  Now if I don't talk nice about Trump he goes straight to my Christianity.  So I never did anything to him so he can't be believed anymore.  For all I know he just hates God.

@Chosen Daughter

<Cut it out.> 

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

Typical kneejerk NT reaction.

Gien the support I've shown for Trump when he does things right...<hey, guys?  It's way too early for that.>

[sneakypete]

@Chosen Daughter

<Cut it out.> 

@Mod1

<Really?>

[Chosen Daughter]

@Chosen Daughter

<Cut it out.> 

<The topic is ICE raids.>

[EdJames]

So, as it often happens, we are left without a clear picture of what is going on....

If we go by Trump's Tweet, he postponed the raids to allow 2 weeks for the Congress to work on fixing the "loopholes" in immigration law...

Then we hear that 5 (un-named) sources all point to McAleenan as a leaker that caused Trump to have to postpone because the leaks compromised the operation...

Then last evening Lou Dobbs starts his show saying that he talked to McAleenan on the phone yesterday and that McAleenan swears up and down that he isn't a leaker...

It sounded like Dobbs was going to have that (recorded) interview later in the show, but it never came....  He never brought it up until he had on Matt Gaetz late in the show, Dobbs mentions to Gaetz that McAleenan denies being a leaker and Gaetz tells Dobbs that he believes him.....


So we don't know why Trump postponed these deportation efforts (that he originally billed as being "millions") for supposedly two weeks....

It certainly can't be because he believes that the Pelosi House is going to pass any legislation fixing the issues.

Also, we need to keep in mind that there are two separate bills being discussed at this point, and we shouldn't confuse the two:
1.  The "humanitarian funding" supplement that is around $5 billion...  Senate has passed a version, House has a version (not yet passed to my knowledge)...
2.  The imaginary "fix the issues" bill that Trump is hoping gets passed in two weeks...  which really isn't two weeks because of the 4th of July recess coming up...

And of course what seems to be lurking in the background (if you listen carefully) is the emergence of a dreaded "comprehensive immigration reform" bill....  could that emerge as some sort of sick combination of the above 2 bills? 

Will it contain an amnesty for "N" millions?

If it does emerge in this murky atmosphere, I suspect that Trump will sign it, unfortunately....

 

[sneakypete]

<This is not the thread to make fun of Christians.>

[libertybele]

So, as it often happens, we are left without a clear picture of what is going on....

If we go by Trump's Tweet, he postponed the raids to allow 2 weeks for the Congress to work on fixing the "loopholes" in immigration law...

Then we hear that 5 (un-named) sources all point to McAleenan as a leaker that caused Trump to have to postpone because the leaks compromised the operation...

Then last evening Lou Dobbs starts his show saying that he talked to McAleenan on the phone yesterday and that McAleenan swears up and down that he isn't a leaker...

It sounded like Dobbs was going to have that (recorded) interview later in the show, but it never came....  He never brought it up until he had on Matt Gaetz late in the show, Dobbs mentions to Gaetz that McAleenan denies being a leaker and Gaetz tells Dobbs that he believes him.....


So we don't know why Trump postponed these deportation efforts (that he originally billed as being "millions") for supposedly two weeks....

It certainly can't be because he believes that the Pelosi House is going to pass any legislation fixing the issues.

Also, we need to keep in mind that there are two separate bills being discussed at this point, and we shouldn't confuse the two:
1.  The "humanitarian funding" supplement that is around $5 billion...  Senate has passed a version, House has a version (not yet passed to my knowledge)...
2.  The imaginary "fix the issues" bill that Trump is hoping gets passed in two weeks...  which really isn't two weeks because of the 4th of July recess coming up...

And of course what seems to be lurking in the background (if you listen carefully) is the emergence of a dreaded "comprehensive immigration reform" bill....  could that emerge as some sort of sick combination of the above 2 bills? 

Will it contain an amnesty for "N" millions?

If it does emerge in this murky atmosphere, I suspect that Trump will sign it, unfortunately....

 

IMHO as I stated before, McAleenan is simply someone convenient for Trump to blame.  Trump is FAILING at the border and he knows it. I just wish his supporters would recognize it's way past time to start holding him accountable and that they need to start making some noise.  Sitting idly by and praising his every backpedal isn't helpful.

[sneakypete]

So, as it often happens, we are left without a clear picture of what is going on....

Also, we need to keep in mind that there are two separate bills being discussed at this point, and we shouldn't confuse the two:
1.  The "humanitarian funding" supplement that is around $5 billion...  Senate has passed a version, House has a version (not yet passed to my knowledge)...
2.  The imaginary "fix the issues" bill that Trump is hoping gets passed in two weeks...  which really isn't two weeks because of the 4th of July recess coming up...

And of course what seems to be lurking in the background (if you listen carefully) is the emergence of a dreaded "comprehensive immigration reform" bill....  could that emerge as some sort of sick combination of the above 2 bills? 

Will it contain an amnesty for "N" millions?

@EdJames

It will if the Dims and their goombas,the Establishment RINO's have their way.

[EdJames]

IMHO as I stated before, McAleenan is simply someone convenient for Trump to blame.  Trump is FAILING at the border and he knows it. I just wish his supporters would recognize it's way past time to start holding him accountable and that they need to start making some noise.  Sitting idly by and praising his every backpedal isn't helpful.

I think that many of them do recognize it...  but let's be real, there is no effective way of "holding him accountable..." at this point....  What I suspect we will see, that if he signs an amnesty bill, those vaunted rallies are going to be a lot more sparsely attended....

[EdJames]

@EdJames

It will if the Dims and their goombas,the Establishment RINO's have their way.

That's a given....  the question is, will Trump sign it?

[catfish1957]

I think that many of them do recognize it...  but let's be real, there is no effective way of "holding him accountable..." at this point....  What I suspect we will see, that if he signs an amnesty bill, those vaunted rallies are going to be a lot more sparsely attended....

IF DJT signs an Amensty Bill?  Forget about the rallies.  The 2020 POTUS election will look like McGovern's '72 run.

[DCPatriot]

IF DJT signs an Amensty Bill?  Forget about the rallies.  The 2020 POTUS election will look like McGovern's '72 run.

There's a purpose to the media continually asking President Trump, "If you lose the election, will you leave?"

Truthfully, I'm more than a little concerned with all this State Driver's License automatic voter registration, etc..

Add all this early voting bullshit and absentee ballot nonsense.   I don't like what I see.

The Supreme Court has to rule that early voting in this day and tech age is too fraught with cheating.

Show up with your picture ID and vote.   Stick your thumb in some purple dye, even.