Famed columnist E. Jean Carroll claims Trump sexually assaulted her in 1990s

[Cyber Liberty]

You know how those mud slingers are, Tommy.....  they've got no scruples....  no scruples I tell ya...

...while declaring they have more scruples than anybody else.

[Applewood]

That's bullcrap. I try what Trump tried, I would get arrested. Period.

People who make excuses for this behavior are why we don't have moral people in positions of power.

Well, I'm not excusing Trump.  Just looking at this woman's story and not finding it credible. 

[sneakypete]

So now Ted Cruz was a RINO.   
Sheesh, is there no low too low to go to defend  the pervert.

@Rivergirl

"Untrustworthy" at BEST. He does seem to have found some backbone since Trump was elected,though. Before that,he could have passed for a member of the Bush Crime Family.

[sneakypete]

So now Ted Cruz was a RINO.   
Sheesh, is there no low too low to go to defend  the pervert.

@Rivergirl

I dunno. You seem to be one of the ruling board experts in perversion and going low,so why don't you tell us?

[sneakypete]

That's bullcrap. I try what Trump tried, I would get arrested. Period.

People who make excuses for this behavior are why we don't have moral people in positions of power.

@jmyrlefuller

Sounds to me like you are jealous. Why not become a pageant official yourself and find out what everybody else already knows?

[sneakypete]

Difference is... you're not involved in the pageant (or modeling) industry.  Trump was.  People involved in the pageant process come and go thru those dressing rooms routinely.  Do they cop a peek?   Hell yeah, no doubt.   Do most of the pageant participants think anything about it?  Hell no.  Just the ones trying to make points with their leftie gods by accusing Trump.  JS...

So no, it's not bullcrap.  It's a fact.

@XenaLee

You are wasting your time. They only want to hear bad things slandering Trump because he had the GALL to defeat one of their Party Pod People for the nomination. They will never forgive him for this.

[jmyrlefuller]

Well, I'm not excusing Trump.  Just looking at this woman's story and not finding it credible.

To clarify: I, too, am at least uncertain and at most deeply skeptical of this particular case... but let's not kid ourselves. Trump has done this sort of thing in the past. Repeatedly. That, and the fact that there's no real correlation with anything else going on (meaning its distraction value is almost worthless) are about the only two things going in her favor right now.

[Cyber Liberty]

To clarify: I, too, am at least uncertain and at most deeply skeptical of this particular case... but let's not kid ourselves. Trump has done this sort of thing in the past. Repeatedly. That, and the fact that there's no real correlation with anything else going on (meaning its distraction value is almost worthless) are about the only two things going in her favor right now.

So..you're in the "He's a pervert" column?

[corbe]

   As someone pointed out way up Thread, having sex in a standing position is complicated and requires a bit of a  contortionist physicality and if you suffer from a small penis, I would think it's downright impossible. 
   As Trump's documented history with women prove this is certainly plausible. I suspect, due to his tiny hands, in this particular case it's impossible, so IMHO, she's a liar.

[jmyrlefuller]

So..you're in the "He's a pervert" column?

Put me in the "He's a pervert, but not this time" column if that helps you sleep at night.

[Cyber Liberty]

Put me in the "He's a pervert, but not this time" column if that helps you sleep at night.

I sleep just fine, thanks. 

[Sanguine]

Dumb question here, and I acknowledge that I haven't been following all of the dirt for the last several years, but in the area of extreme perversion, what is it Trump has done in that area?  I know about the running his mouth about women and saying crude things, three wives, leering at pageant participants and coming on to women.  What is it that rises to extreme perversion?

[240B]

What is it that rises to extreme perversion?

He beat Hillary, the MSM, and the Shadow Government. That is as perverse a thing as anyone could do in America.
That is what all the hubbub is about. If he had lost, none of this would ever have happened.

[sneakypete]

   What is it that rises to extreme perversion?

@Sanguine

That pervert had the GALL to defeat Republican Party Rino Regulars in the primary,and then had the gall to be elected President. That right there is surely enough to earn him a long prison sentence!

Who does that pervert think he is,Boy Jorge?

Why,I never.........

[sneakypete]

He beat Hillary, the MSM, and the Shadow Government. That is as perverse a thing as anyone could do in America.

AND.....,he did it after defeating the Usual RINO Suspects.

[Wingnut]

   As someone pointed out way up Thread, having sex in a standing position is complicated and requires a bit of a contortionist physicality

Give credit when credit is due

[jmyrlefuller]

Dumb question here, and I acknowledge that I haven't been following all of the dirt for the last several years, but in the area of extreme perversion, what is it Trump has done in that area?  I know about the running his mouth about women and saying crude things, three wives, leering at pageant participants and coming on to women.  What is it that rises to extreme perversion?

I don't think he's an EXTREME pervert. Just a serial mid-level pervert who thinks he gets away with it because he's rich and powerful.

Extreme perverts are the type that end up on the Megan's Law sex offender registries. Incest, child molestation, violent rape. The bathhouses are full of extreme perverts, too, but that's another issue altogether.

[XenaLee]

I don't think he's an EXTREME pervert. Just a serial mid-level pervert who thinks he gets away with it because he's rich and powerful.

Extreme perverts are the type that end up on the Megan's Law sex offender registries. Incest, child molestation, violent rape. The bathhouses are full of extreme perverts, too, but that's another issue altogether.

Sooo.... color me curious, too.   What's the difference between an extreme pervert... and a serial mid-level pervert?   Could you please explain and define that difference for our edification?

What acts, specifically, do serial mid-level perverts commit, IOW?

[Cyber Liberty]

Sooo.... color me curious, too.   What's the difference between an extreme pervert... and a serial mid-level pervert?   Could you please explain and define that difference for our edification?

What acts, specifically, do serial mid-level perverts commit, IOW?

I'm curious too.  I see this argument frequently:  "I think so-and-so is a pervert (not just Trump.  Look at the Roy Moore threads), so if you support him/her in any way you must be either a pervert too, or 'unprincipled.'  I know what I am, so what are you?  No, I don't need evidence because 'I know.'"

I wonder if I should start considering this fallacy a personal attack.

[Sanguine]

I don't think he's an EXTREME pervert. Just a serial mid-level pervert who thinks he gets away with it because he's rich and powerful.

Extreme perverts are the type that end up on the Megan's Law sex offender registries. Incest, child molestation, violent rape. The bathhouses are full of extreme perverts, too, but that's another issue altogether.

I understand that, but what acts has he committed to get him into pervert category?

[EdJames]

I'm curious too.  I see this argument frequently:  "I think so-and-so is a pervert (not just Trump.  Look at the Roy Moore threads), so if you support him/her in any way you must be either a pervert too, or 'unprincipled.'  I know what I am, so what are you?  No, I don't need evidence because 'I know.'"

I wonder if I should start considering this fallacy a personal attack.

Nah, save that for when we tell someone to go die in a ditch!! 

 


But on this sub-topic: I'm not that curious since I am sure that I know exactly what some view as a "serial mid-level pervert."

 

[XenaLee]

I'm curious too.  I see this argument frequently:  "I think so-and-so is a pervert (not just Trump.  Look at the Roy Moore threads), so if you support him/her in any way you must be either a pervert too, or 'unprincipled.'  I know what I am, so what are you?  No, I don't need evidence because 'I know.'"

I wonder if I should start considering this fallacy a personal attack.

Slippery slope.  Making generalizations (blanket judgements) is what forum participants do.   It's only personal if the culprit calls a forum member a perverted doody head...lololol.

[Cyber Liberty]

I've been irritated at this for a while.  Some otherwise good people look at Moore or Trump and declare them some level of "pervert" without any hard evidence, then paint other Members as "unprincipled" if they stick up for the politician in question.

Criticize the politicians all you want, that is what TBR is for, but a line is being crossed when other Members are attacked for their beliefs.  This "I know what I am, so what are you" business is just a clever way of concealing personal attacks behind a veil of "morality."

[XenaLee]

Unprincipled is when someone accuses someone of something heinous without a shred of proof.  They are merely projecting, as usual.

[txradioguy]

I've been irritated at this for a while.  Some otherwise good people look at Moore or Trump and declare them some level of "pervert" without any hard evidence, then paint other Members as "unprincipled" if they stick up for the politician in question.

Criticize the politicians all you want, that is what TBR is for, but a line is being crossed when other Members are attacked for their beliefs.  This "I know what I am, so what are you" business is just a clever way of concealing personal attacks behind a veil of "morality."