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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign is cutting ties with some of its own pollsters after leaked internal polling showed the president trailing former Vice President Joe Biden in critical 2020 battleground states, according to a person close to the campaign.

The move comes after NBC News obtained new details from a March internal poll that found Trump trailing Biden in 11 key states.

Portions of the campaign’s expansive March polling trickled out in recent days in other news reports.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/trump-campaign-cutting-ties-pollsters-after-internal-numbers-leaked-n1017991
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In Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan — three states where Trump edged Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by narrow margins that proved decisive in his victory — Trump trails Biden by double-digits. In three of those states — Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida — Biden’s leads sit outside the poll’s margin of error.
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It's still more than one year away from the election.  A number of presidents who were behind in the polls a year or more before their first or second term got re-elected.
I think a number of swing voters perceive Trump to be a gigantic jackass (which he is) and disregard any of his positive achievements because of his jackassery.
This has been Trump's biggest problem...despite many Republicans wishing he'd become presidential, he can't help being himself.
Here's hoping he changes before the election next year. But don't hold your breath. Dumb statements like this last one roll off his tongue every day.

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It's still more than one year away from the election.  A number of presidents who were behind in the polls a year or more before their first or second term got re-elected.
I think a number of swing voters perceive Trump to be a gigantic jackass (which he is) and disregard any of his positive achievements because of his jackassery.
This has been Trump's biggest problem...despite many Republicans wishing he'd become presidential, he can't help being himself.
Here's hoping he changes before the election next year. But don't hold your breath. Dumb statements like this last one roll off his tongue every day.

Yes, the election is over a year away.  I think President Trump has done very well when meeting with foreign heads of state and has really shown deep patriotism and I get the feeling that he is respected overseas.

On the other hand, he seems to have such a 'cocky' attitude at times as our President.  Perhaps he has that attitude because of a lack of respect coming from his own party, the DEMS and the American public.  But, unfortunately, that 'cocky' attitude was on full display while he was campaigning and before he even took the oath of office.

He has never stopped campaigning.  He continues to tweet.  He continues to say boneheaded things.  Is it because he feels the need to constantly defend himself against the fake news?  Keep in mind he's gone through an unwarranted witch hunt and calls for impeachment from almost day one.

No his cocky attitude doesn't help, but when push comes to shove, either you vote for Trump with all of his deep flaws, a bat crap crazy DEM, 3rd party or you don't vote.

I'm starting to hear and encounter people who say that they aren't going to vote this election.  IMHO, I think that places Trump's re-election in serious jeopardy and he needs to do something to motivate people to re-elect him.  So far, he's doing just the opposite.
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It's still more than one year away from the election.  A number of presidents who were behind in the polls a year or more before their first or second term got re-elected.
I think a number of swing voters perceive Trump to be a gigantic jackass (which he is) and disregard any of his positive achievements because of his jackassery.
This has been Trump's biggest problem...despite many Republicans wishing he'd become presidential, he can't help being himself.
Here's hoping he changes before the election next year. But don't hold your breath. Dumb statements like this last one roll off his tongue every day.

QFT.    Yes, it is more than a year away,  but Trump is unable or unwilling to change his shtick.   And while that shtick may endear him to certain members of his base,  it has led many to view him as a national embarrassment.    Biden provides such swing voters with a seemingly "safe" choice to cleanse the stain of embarrassment while avoiding the election of a socialist crazy.   It is that potential that has catapulted him to the top of the Dem leaderboard.    Of course,  the Dems are demanding Biden abandon any sense of moderation,  and he has dutifully donned the kneepads and bib,  abandoning the middle ground on abortion and other issues.   

I do not expect Trump to be re-elected,  and I fear that the Republican Senate may be swept away as collateral damage.   The spasm of radicalism that follows will be nothing like we've seen in this nation before.   
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QFT.    Yes, it is more than a year away,  but Trump is unable or unwilling to change his shtick.   And while that shtick may endear him to certain members of his base,  it has led many to view him as a national embarrassment.    Biden provides such swing voters with a seemingly "safe" choice to cleanse the stain of embarrassment while avoiding the election of a socialist crazy.   It is that potential that has catapulted him to the top of the Dem leaderboard.    Of course,  the Dems are demanding Biden abandon any sense of moderation,  and he has dutifully donned the kneepads and bib,  abandoning the middle ground on abortion and other issues.   

I do not expect Trump to be re-elected,  and I fear that the Republican Senate may be swept away as collateral damage.   The spasm of radicalism that follows will be nothing like we've seen in this nation before.

I tend to agree with you.  President Trump has backpedaled on several issues, with the primary issue being his inability to resolve the border crisis. The number of people who are stating that they are going to sit this election out is growing. Not a good sign.  He must do something to regain the support that he is losing. 

As for the Senate, I would hope that voters would realize that the Senate right now is holding this country together and keeping the bat crap crazies on the left by a very slim thread, and hopefully, even if they don't vote for the President, that they will get out and vote for their Senators.

I'm not so sure that I am in agreement that Biden is going to win as I don't believe much in the polls.  I think we are going to see someone to the left of Biden capture the DEM nomination.  God help us at that point, as I agree with you; "the spasm of radicalism that follows will be nothing like we've seen in this nation before". 
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I tend to agree with you.  President Trump has backpedaled on several issues, with the primary issue being his inability to resolve the border crisis. The number of people who are stating that they are going to sit this election out is growing. Not a good sign.  He must do something to regain the support that he is losing. 

As for the Senate, I would hope that voters would realize that the Senate right now is holding this country together and keeping the bat crap crazies on the left by a very slim thread, and hopefully, even if they don't vote for the President, that they will get out and vote for their Senators.

I'm not so sure that I am in agreement that Biden is going to win as I don't believe much in the polls.  I think we are going to see someone to the left of Biden capture the DEM nomination.  God help us at that point, as I agree with you; "the spasm of radicalism that follows will be nothing like we've seen in this nation before".
You make a good point. While his strongest backers rejoice at his snarky comments and actions, the swing voters don't look at him quite the same way. And many of his backers adversely affected by his trade wars (farmers, etc.) might be swayed by a Dem candidate promising to stop the trade war.
Sure, he'll get all the Trumpsters and people who can't stomach any Dem pol...even Biden. But it's the swing voters who will decide the election.
While Biden would be the "safe" choice for Dems, I have my doubts about him as well.  Nevertheless, with the increasing disparagement of white, male candidates, Biden is not a shoo-in.
If the Dems nominate anybody but Biden, I see Trump getting re-elected.  If Biden is nominated, it will be very close...just like the 2016 election.
But I would not say Trump cannot win. If only he'd shut his yap and trash his Twitter until Nov 2020.

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@libertybele  ,   I cut the President more slack than you do on the border issue,  as he is fighting both Dem nihilism (they want to exploit the border crisis rather than address it) and a wave of international activists in cahoots with mobsters encouraging migration to the border.   It is difficult to be overwhelmed by a problem,  look to one's fellow Americans for help and find they'd rather stab you in the back.   

If the 2020 elections are followed by civil war I would not be surprised in the least.   The ties that bind are being deliberately cut.   
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Someone should remind him that at this point in IIRC 2016...he was polling at 1% and Jeb Bush was in the lead.

Just sayin...
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@libertybele  ,   I cut the President more slack than you do on the border issue,  as he is fighting both Dem nihilism (they want to exploit the border crisis rather than address it) and a wave of international activists in cahoots with mobsters encouraging migration to the border.   It is difficult to be overwhelmed by a problem,  look to one's fellow Americans for help and find they'd rather stab you in the back.   

If the 2020 elections are followed by civil war I would not be surprised in the least.   The ties that bind are being deliberately cut.   

Yes, I understand what you are saying and I agree with you.  Unfortunately, it still doesn't dismiss the fact, that he waited to make his push for the wall and border security just days before the new Congress was sworn in. He hasn't exactly handled the border crisis well; quite the opposite.  I find it very difficult to blame everything on the new Congress.

At this point in time, I would still cast my vote for him; if purely to stop the leftists and the GOPe.  IMHO, he has displayed patriotism, leadership and remarkable tenacity. I would vote for him with hesitation however, because I fear what he may do after he is re-elected.

As for a civil war; well, I believe that is what the left has been pushing for, for a very long time. You may be correct, it may be just around the corner.
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I too would fire a company that I'm paying to work for me and they leak to the very antagonistic press.  Not sure why this is a story, except for the very unethical leaking part.

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I too would fire a company that I'm paying to work for me and they leak to the very antagonistic press.  Not sure why this is a story, except for the very unethical leaking part.

I would sack them for leaking too, and get another polling firm that isn't connected to the Press.   I might even sue them for leaking confidential data that I paid for.

This should not be a "pro-Trump" vs "anti-Trump" issue.
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I would sack them for leaking too, and get another polling firm that isn't connected to the Press.   I might even sue them for leaking confidential data that I paid for.

This should not be a "pro-Trump" vs "anti-Trump" issue.

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I am so sick of it.  This is the result desired by the leftists, and folks just can't resist playing into their hands.
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