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Attorneys for a Denver woman greased the pan for yet another legal battle against a Lakewood bakery already burned around the edges from a series of heated civil rights fights. Jack Phillips, owner of the Masterpiece Cakeshop, refused in 2012 to bake a wedding cake for Charlie Craig and David Mullins, a same-sex couple from Denver, on the basis of his religious beliefs.

That case rose through the court system, culminating in a year ago in a 7-2 decision from the United States Supreme Court partially in favor of Phillips. The justices did not rule on the larger issue of whether businesses can invoke religious objections to refuse service to gays or lesbians, but did decide the bakery owner had been subjected to anti-religious bias by a state civil rights agency.

The latest lawsuit was filed Wednesday in Denver District Court on behalf of Autumn Scardina by attorneys Paula Greisen and John McHugh.

Scardina had filed a previous lawsuit against Phillips following her request for a cake – an order she placed the day of the SCOTUS ruling. Previous reports say Scardina’s order was for a cake celebrating her gender transition.

Thursday, Greisen called it an order for a birthday cake.

Regardless, Scardina’s initial lawsuit was not successful.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/06/06/discrimination-lawsuit-lakewood-jack-phillips-masterpiece-cakeshop/
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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 10:43:56 pm »
Autumn Scardina should be sued for harassment for filing these lawsuits..
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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 11:33:34 pm »
Autumn Scardina should be sued for harassment for filing these lawsuits..
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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 12:40:59 am »
There were quite a few here who pointed out that the Supreme Court decision was an incomplete one at best and not exactly a win for the good guys.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2019, 03:27:25 am »
What the article conveniently fails to tell you is that the 'victim' Autumn Scardina, is an attorney with her own law practice and past Asst County Attorney.

It was a complete dirty setup at the highest level the entire time on Phillips.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/autumn-scardina-781551a8

Crap like this is what gives lawyers a bad name as they are deliberately out there soliciting for civil or criminal behavior when nones exists.
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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2019, 11:06:12 pm »
The owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop -- which won a case before the U.S. Supreme Court recently -- was sued for a third time this week.
Jack Phillips, the Lakewood, Colo. bakery owner who has refused to bake cakes that violate his Christian faith, is being sued again by Autumn Scardina, a transgender woman, for refusing to bake a gender transition cake.


Scardina claims it is textbook LGBT discrimination. But Phillips said she is rehashing old claims that hold no merit.

Phillips describes himself as an artist who uses cakes as "canvas" to express ideas and celebrate events. He has insisted he doesn't want to do something that goes against his faith. He said the cases against him have directly affected his family and business and he's faced death threats and harassment.
The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Phillips last year in a case where he refused to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. The high court ruled the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed "anti-religious bias" when it filed a discrimination charge against Phillips.

The commission then filed another complaint against Phillips after he refused to make Scardina a cake celebrating a gender transition. He, in turn, sued the state claiming he was being singled out for his religious beliefs.

More: https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-christian-cakeshop-sued-discrimination

Effing brown shirts.
The Commission and Phillips agreed to drop their cases in March after discovery showed "anti-religious hostility" from the state toward the family-run bakery.

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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2019, 11:09:06 pm »
Time to countersue those who sue over not putting obscene material on a cake.

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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2019, 03:40:13 am »
Joe wrote:
"Time to countersue..."

No.
Time for Mr. Phillips to GET OUT of Colorado for good.

There's no point in trying to "stay and fight".
That makes as much sense as telling that to the Jews in Germany in 1938...

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 05:48:38 am »
Joe wrote:
"Time to countersue..."

No.
Time for Mr. Phillips to GET OUT of Colorado for good.

There's no point in trying to "stay and fight".
That makes as much sense as telling that to the Jews in Germany in 1938...
You may be right, but I'd love to see someone spank the cash out of the vengeful bleep.
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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 01:47:36 pm »
Joe wrote:
"Time to countersue..."

No.
Time for Mr. Phillips to GET OUT of Colorado for good.

There's no point in trying to "stay and fight".
That makes as much sense as telling that to the Jews in Germany in 1938...

Sadly, you make a good point.

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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2019, 02:11:00 pm »
Joe wrote:
"Time to countersue..."

No.
Time for Mr. Phillips to GET OUT of Colorado for good.

There's no point in trying to "stay and fight".
That makes as much sense as telling that to the Jews in Germany in 1938...

He's fighting the good fight.  I applaud and support him.

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Re: Third Discrimination Suit Filed Against Masterpiece Cakeshop
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2019, 01:00:39 am »
Sanguine wrote:
"He's fighting the good fight.  I applaud and support him."

So do I.
But at some point one must know when to quit.

Fearless prediction:
Even if Mr. Phillips' case ends up all the way in the U.S. Supreme Court again, and even if he WINS, he's probably going to be sued and sued again.

And the leftist/democrat-communist state of Colorado is going to do nothing to help him.

"The good fight" is worth fighting so long as there's a chance of victory.

But when the only "victory" becomes Pyrrhic after wasting years of one's life and resources, it will no longer have been worth the struggle.

Again, I'll repeat:
Mr. Phillips should leave the state of Colorado for more favorable "territory", and set up shop there.

Life will be much easier.

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2019, 01:31:25 am »
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2019, 01:38:05 am »
Sanguine wrote:
"He's fighting the good fight.  I applaud and support him."

So do I.
But at some point one must know when to quit.

Fearless prediction:
Even if Mr. Phillips' case ends up all the way in the U.S. Supreme Court again, and even if he WINS, he's probably going to be sued and sued again.

And the leftist/democrat-communist state of Colorado is going to do nothing to help him.

"The good fight" is worth fighting so long as there's a chance of victory.

But when the only "victory" becomes Pyrrhic after wasting years of one's life and resources, it will no longer have been worth the struggle.

Again, I'll repeat:
Mr. Phillips should leave the state of Colorado for more favorable "territory", and set up shop there.

Life will be much easier.
Ha. You think that, though?

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2019, 02:44:05 am »
Joe wrote:
"Time to countersue..."

No.
Time for Mr. Phillips to GET OUT of Colorado for good.

There's no point in trying to "stay and fight".
That makes as much sense as telling that to the Jews in Germany in 1938...

But if he leaves...the Progressives accomplish what they set out to do.
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2019, 02:47:19 am »
But if he leaves...the Progressives accomplish what they set out to do.

And, @jmyrlefuller is right.  They'll just follow him.

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2019, 03:20:27 am »
Sanguine wrote:
"He's fighting the good fight.  I applaud and support him."

So do I.
But at some point one must know when to quit.

Fearless prediction:
Even if Mr. Phillips' case ends up all the way in the U.S. Supreme Court again, and even if he WINS, he's probably going to be sued and sued again.

And the leftist/democrat-communist state of Colorado is going to do nothing to help him.

"The good fight" is worth fighting so long as there's a chance of victory.

But when the only "victory" becomes Pyrrhic after wasting years of one's life and resources, it will no longer have been worth the struggle.

Again, I'll repeat:
Mr. Phillips should leave the state of Colorado for more favorable "territory", and set up shop there.

Life will be much easier.
Glad you were not around when the colonists decided to fight.  Going up against the mightiest military in the world seems a bit more daunting than fighting immorality.

And there are indeed resources available to Mr. Phillips as I understand several hundred thousand dollars have descended his way to support his cause, obviously because those contributors believe "First they came for the Jews...."
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2019, 07:46:19 am »
Sanguine wrote:
"He's fighting the good fight.  I applaud and support him."

So do I.
But at some point one must know when to quit.

Fearless prediction:
Even if Mr. Phillips' case ends up all the way in the U.S. Supreme Court again, and even if he WINS, he's probably going to be sued and sued again.

And the leftist/democrat-communist state of Colorado is going to do nothing to help him.

"The good fight" is worth fighting so long as there's a chance of victory.

But when the only "victory" becomes Pyrrhic after wasting years of one's life and resources, it will no longer have been worth the struggle.

Again, I'll repeat:
Mr. Phillips should leave the state of Colorado for more favorable "territory", and set up shop there.

Life will be much easier.
Frankly, I don't think the Homomafia will ever leave them alone. This is uberbitch vindictiveness, trying any angle to punish the man for simply standing up for what he believes in. Because what he believes in isn't the same thing as what they are trying to jam up American's (and the World's) hindparts, they want to punish him. How DARE he defy them?

Time to put that dog and pony show back in the closet and lock the door, imho. The claimed desired mere 'tolerance' has gone way overboard, to the point of being intolerable.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2019, 07:50:28 am »
But if he leaves...the Progressives accomplish what they set out to do.
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24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2019, 01:21:19 pm »
There were quite a few here who pointed out that the Supreme Court decision was an incomplete one at best and not exactly a win for the good guys.

This is completely correct.  The Court basically ducked the core issue of whether or not you can force to bake an LGBTQ cake.  Instead, it struck down the decision of the Colorado commission because of anti-religious statements made by some commissioners during the course of the hearing.  Essentially, they said "regardless of whether or not you can force someone to bake that cake, you can't make a decision based on blanket anti-religious bias."  Of course, the very predictable result of that was for the Colorado commission to go after him again, and just not make the same kind of statements on the record.

The Supreme Court sometimes does that -- decides a case on very narrow grounds to duck a controversial issue.  They are particularly likely to do that when there doesn't appear to be a majority willing to sign on to any particular decision.  So rather than issuing a plurality opinion, they duck the main issue and decide it on a narrow ground.

Fearless prediction:
Even if Mr. Phillips' case ends up all the way in the U.S. Supreme Court again, and even if he WINS, he's probably going to be sued and sued again.

And the leftist/democrat-communist state of Colorado is going to do nothing to help him.

"The good fight" is worth fighting so long as there's a chance of victory.

But when the only "victory" becomes Pyrrhic after wasting years of one's life and resources, it will no longer have been worth the struggle.

As I said above, the problem is that while he won his first case at the Supreme Court, the decision they made was so narrow that it didn't address the core issue.  I suspect that the fly in the ointment at that time was Anthony Kennedy, who is generally pro-religious but also pro-gay.  He has since been replaced by Kavanaugh, who has not show the same pro-gay bias.  So, if it gets up to the Supreme Court again, it is very likely that the Court will finally decide the core issue squarely.  And if that happens, then there no longer will be any doubt, and the we'll all finally have the answer to the question that we should have had years ago.

But this result -- him getting sued again -- was as certain to happen as the sun rising in the east when the Supreme Court refused to address the core issue the first time around.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2019, 01:31:30 pm »
This is completely correct.  The Court basically ducked the core issue of whether or not you can force to bake an LGBTQ cake.  Instead, it struck down the decision of the Colorado commission because of anti-religious statements made by some commissioners during the course of the hearing.  Essentially, they said "regardless of whether or not you can force someone to bake that cake, you can't make a decision based on blanket anti-religious bias."  Of course, the very predictable result of that was for the Colorado commission to go after him again, and just not make the same kind of statements on the record.

The Supreme Court sometimes does that -- decides a case on very narrow grounds to duck a controversial issue.  They are particularly likely to do that when there doesn't appear to be a majority willing to sign on to any particular decision.  So rather than issuing a plurality opinion, they duck the main issue and decide it on a narrow ground.

As I said above, the problem is that while he won his first case at the Supreme Court, the decision they made was so narrow that it didn't address the core issue.  I suspect that the fly in the ointment at that time was Anthony Kennedy, who is generally pro-religious but also pro-gay.  He has since been replaced by Kavanaugh, who has not show the same pro-gay bias.  So, if it gets up to the Supreme Court again, it is very likely that the Court will finally decide the core issue squarely.  And if that happens, then there no longer will be any doubt, and the we'll all finally have the answer to the question that we should have had years ago.

But this result -- him getting sued again -- was as certain to happen as the sun rising in the east when the Supreme Court refused to address the core issue the first time around.

Yep.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2019, 01:41:21 pm »
Frankly, I don't think the Homomafia will ever leave them alone. This is uberbitch vindictiveness, trying any angle to punish the man for simply standing up for what he believes in. Because what he believes in isn't the same thing as what they are trying to jam up American's (and the World's) hindparts, they want to punish him. How DARE he defy them?

Time to put that dog and pony show back in the closet and lock the door, imho. The claimed desired mere 'tolerance' has gone way overboard, to the point of being intolerable.

As with the entire array of leftwing victims' groups, LGBTs want equality and tolerance right up until advantage is gained, then they demand obedience.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2019, 02:03:51 pm »
The person that filed the suit made the order for this cake...from this baker...the day the previous decision was announced.

Whether it was to be a victory cake if the plaintiff had won or a coming out cake if he’d lost...either way there was going to be another lawsuit because this person already knew in advance the baker would refuse to make the cake.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2019, 02:05:07 pm »
As with the entire array of leftwing victims' groups, LGBTs want equality and tolerance right up until advantage is gained, then they demand obedience.

They never are satisfied with just getting a win. And they never believe they should lose either.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2019, 02:40:37 pm »
They never are satisfied with just getting a win. And they never believe they should lose either.
isn’t that the definition of war?
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