Trump suspends plan to impose tariffs on Mexico, says Mexico ‘has agreed to take strong measures’ on

[Right_in_Virginia]

What?  Don't you like music?   

[EdJames]

What?  Don't you like music?   

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[Hoodat]

This should totally trash the thread.

Die Antwoord  -  Baby on Fire (Afrikaans)


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Here is the official video, if you can handle it.  Zef can be quite disturbing.


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[libertybele]

Certainly posting music videos is much more relaxing ... but it doesn't make the crisis at the border go away ... if only!

[Hoodat]

Certainly posting music videos is much more relaxing ... but it doesn't make the crisis at the border go away ... if only!

Mexico simply isn't in position to save us from our own idiotic policies.

[libertybele]

Mexico simply isn't in position to save us from our own idiotic policies.

Exactly...most of us get that.  For our president to proclaim this as a grand and glorious plan is very deceiving; and those that believe him ... well... they'll never see the writing on the wall.  Sad.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Die Antwoord  -  Baby on Fire (Afrikaans)

There were no babies on fire.  disappointing.

[truth_seeker]

Exactly...most of us get that.  For our president to proclaim this as a grand and glorious plan is very deceiving; and those that believe him ... well... they'll never see the writing on the wall.  Sad.

What is your solution?

Do you seriously think by criticizing Trump and those who supported him, will make any difference?

Or do you simply use this forum, to relieve your pent up rage, and anger?

Get more exercize, get hobbies, watch different subjects.  Find more balance.

Don't let your psersonal Trump Derangement Syndrome spoil your life.

Since 1986 illegal immigrants have been on notice, to get to America. They will likely find employment, they may get amnesty, they may get benefit, interior enforcement is lax to be generous.

Trump is the first President since Eisenhower, to try stemming the flow oof illegal immigrants.

Your anger should be directed towards those who obstructed doing anything meaningful.Start with Paul Ryan.

As strongly as you appear to feel on this issue, a sane position would be gratitude for Trump.

@libertybele

[Formerly Once-Ler]

a sane position would be gratitude for Trump.

not a cult

[libertybele]

What is your solution?

Do you seriously think by criticizing Trump and those who supported him, will make any difference?

Or do you simply use this forum, to relieve your pent up rage, and anger?

Get more exercize, get hobbies, watch different subjects.  Find more balance.

Don't let your psersonal Trump Derangement Syndrome spoil your life.

Since 1986 illegal immigrants have been on notice, to get to America. They will likely find employment, they may get amnesty, they may get benefit, interior enforcement is lax to be generous.

Trump is the first President since Eisenhower, to try stemming the flow oof illegal immigrants.

Your anger should be directed towards those who obstructed doing anything meaningful.Start with Paul Ryan.

As strongly as you appear to feel on this issue, a sane position would be gratitude for Trump.

@libertybele

Anger?  No.  A sane position would be to acknowledge that Trump is deceiving this country and most importantly his supporters.

Sadness yes.  We are losing our Republic.  More ILLEGALS have invaded this country under Trump then under either Bammy or 'W'; yet, you say to thank him?   That's sanity?

I get the hint.  I will exit.   

[Hoodat]

What is your solution?

For starters, we can end Catch-&-Release.  There is no law nor judge ordering that the federal government release asylum seekers who cross the border illegally into the general population.

[EdJames]

For starters, we can end Catch-&-Release.  There is no law nor judge ordering that the federal government release asylum seekers who cross the border illegally into the general population.

But wait, he already said he's ending it....  but it is his favorite....  but also says it is all his fault....  Oh well, just listen for yourself....  you'll understand....

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[Sanguine]

For starters, we can end Catch-&-Release.  There is no law nor judge ordering that the federal government release asylum seekers who cross the border illegally into the general population.

AMEN!

[Right_in_Virginia]

AMEN!

@Sanguine

Under U.S. law, the Department of Homeland Security has the authority to enforce expedited removal. If illegal border crossers are apprehended within 100 miles of the border and 14 days of entry, immigration officers can quickly deport them. This practice accounts for almost half of all deportations from the U.S.

But there is a catch. If groups are apprehended crossing the border that claim to be family and have children, and submit an asylum claim, they cannot be put into expedited removal. Knowing this to be true, such groups have sought asylum, leading to a dramatic spike in asylum claims.

These groups know that up to 90 percent of asylum claims are rejected, but merely filing an asylum claim can get them into the country to await a hearing. Then, when their claim is rejected, they often fail to show up and are never deported.

The number of bogus family asylum claims at the border is becoming overwhelming for border officials, leaving the Department of Homeland Security with little legal option other than to release them into the U.S. The fact is that more and more, smugglers see this tactic as successful and are increasing the practice.

There are only three ways at present to help stop this insanity. One is adding more border security (like walls) to limit the number of illegal crossings to begin with. The second is to create sufficient detention space to hold apprehended groups until their asylum claims can be resolved. The third is to close the legal loopholes that allow migrants to take advantage of asylum.

Here’s the problem, though: All of these solutions require the cooperation of Congress, and the president’s political opposition in Congress is adamant about opposing the president on all of these. In fact, part of its opposition is to deny the crisis at the border even exists.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/trump-administration-reverting-catch-and-release-congress-blame

[Right_in_Virginia]

For starters, we can end Catch-&-Release.  There is no law nor judge ordering that the federal government release asylum seekers who cross the border illegally into the general population.

Yup, Congress can end Catch & Release tomorrow.  The courts already shot down the President's EO ending it in 2018.

To keep asylum seekers in migrant camps, Congress has to authorize funding to build more facilities.

Might be a good time to call your Congresscritters @Hoodat 

[Hoodat]

All of these solutions require the cooperation of Congress, and the president’s political opposition in Congress is adamant about opposing the president on all of these.

Uh, no.  The Federal government has plenty of detention space.  There are quite a few federal prisons that are completely vacant and unused.  These are well within the power of the Executive Branch to man and equip.  There are also military bases that are currently closed which still have barracks in place.  And then there's Guantanamo.

In Texas alone, the federal government owns over 5,000 square miles of land.  Put up barbed wire, set up tents and cots, and airdrop food in once a day.  And if anyone gets sick of it, they can go right back across the border and wait there until their asylum hearing comes up.

And most importantly of all, anyone caught recrossing into the US after being deported once should be tried, prosecuted, and put in prison for the maximum sentence.  I am sick and tired of hearing wimps cry about how Trump can't do anything because of Congress.  Well, Congress never legalized health care, education, and food stamps for illegals.  Yet the Trump Administration continues to hand them out.  To hell with that.

[Hoodat]

Yup, Congress can end Catch & Release tomorrow.  The courts already shot down the President's EO ending it in 2018.

The courts did no such thing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The courts did no such thing.

Yes they did.  And we can go back and forth on this and the children involved.  But in all candor, who has that kind of free time? 

PS @Hoodat .... Call your congresscritters and let them know what you want from them!!   

[Hoodat]

Yes they did.  And we can go back and forth on this and the children involved.  But in all candor, who has that kind of free time?

Gee, you sure had the free time to make a false claim on these boards.  Repeatedly.

PS @Hoodat .... Call your congresscritters and let them know what you want from them!!   

My Congressman can't make the President do his job.  Catch-and-release is the President's policy - not Congress'.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Yes they did. 

link or it didn't happen

[Smokin Joe]

What is your solution?

Do you seriously think by criticizing Trump and those who supported him, will make any difference?

Or do you simply use this forum, to relieve your pent up rage, and anger?

Get more exercize, get hobbies, watch different subjects.  Find more balance.

Don't let your psersonal Trump Derangement Syndrome spoil your life.

Since 1986 illegal immigrants have been on notice, to get to America. They will likely find employment, they may get amnesty, they may get benefit, interior enforcement is lax to be generous.

Trump is the first President since Eisenhower, to try stemming the flow oof illegal immigrants.

Your anger should be directed towards those who obstructed doing anything meaningful.Start with Paul Ryan.

As strongly as you appear to feel on this issue, a sane position would be gratitude for Trump.

@libertybele

Seriously?  Maybe the ladies could crochet a wall?
We could all pitch in and build one out of Legos.
Maybe each make a brick and take it south....

Just what hobby would you recommend to stop the problem at the border?

There is a lot that has happened concerning immigration, some of which might surprise you. For a decent timeline, see https://immigration.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000023 (link only by request of the copyright holders.)

[edpc]

Mr Ebrard said in his own news conference that such an agreement on the asylum changes does not exist.

An agreement announcement last Friday, he said, delayed the discussion needed by the Mexican senate. This gives Mexico time to prove to the president that would reduce the flow of immigration, which he has maintained is a problem.

Mr Ebrard says the understanding negotiators have reached relies on still more research and discussion.

“Let’s have a deadline to see if what we have works and if not, then we will sit down and look at the measures you propose and those that we propose,” he said, describing the ongoing process.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-us-mexico-deal-exists-163934825.html


The tweet was BS. What a surprise.

[LegalAmerican]

What is your solution?

Do you seriously think by criticizing Trump and those who supported him, will make any difference?

Or do you simply use this forum, to relieve your pent up rage, and anger?

Get more exercize, get hobbies, watch different subjects.  Find more balance.

Don't let your psersonal Trump Derangement Syndrome spoil your life.

Since 1986 illegal immigrants have been on notice, to get to America. They will likely find employment, they may get amnesty, they may get benefit, interior enforcement is lax to be generous.

Trump is the first President since Eisenhower, to try stemming the flow oof illegal immigrants.

Your anger should be directed towards those who obstructed doing anything meaningful.Start with Paul Ryan.

As strongly as you appear to feel on this issue, a sane position would be gratitude for Trump.

@libertybele

..................Clap, clap, clap.

[LegalAmerican]

A-holes...everyone!  MITT IS DEMOCRAT.  Same Mike Lee.  Both mormons.
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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP for NATIONAL EMERGENCY ON BORDER;

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,=FOR ILLEGALS. POS

 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas

and Mike Lee of Utah.


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[edpc]

A-holes...everyone!  MITT IS DEMOCRAT.  Same Mike Lee.  Both mormons.
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The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP for NATIONAL EMERGENCY ON BORDER;

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,=FOR ILLEGALS. POS

 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas

and Mike Lee of Utah.


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Want to guess which Utah Democrat is on the SCOTUS list? On top of everything, you use a decidedly leftist source like Vice to buttress your blithering nonsense. Good job. 👍

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-expands-list-of-possible-supreme-court-picks/