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Two Brand-New Senators Cast Light On The GOP’s Post-Trump Future
 
The fusion of populism and conservatism as a workable and ideological political movement is emerging in the actions of two newly elected senators: Josh Hawley and Rick Scott.

By Brad Todd   
June 5, 2019

 
The heat and light given off by the nuclear grind between President Trump and his antagonists have blinded Washington’s chroniclers to something important happening right before their eyes. The fusion of populism and conservatism as a workable and ideological political movement is emerging in the actions of two newly elected senators: Josh Hawley and Rick Scott.

It took a political hijacker like Trump to elevate Republicans out of the losing rut in which our old, Goldwater-ish GOP had become mired. But from a policy perspective, Trump has worked out to be more like a Viking conqueror than English colonizer.

Trumpism has proven to be a formidable foe to the new left’s dominant ideology of cosmopolitan elitism—within the bounds of the daily news cycle. But if the realignment that Trump’s win validated is going to be a structural victory for Republicans, it needs more than daily combat. It needs policy pioneers and settlers, and longer-term battles that deliver material results for voters beyond merely thwarting harmful liberal impulses. That’s where first-termers Hawley and Scott enter.

Scott, a self-made health-care CEO who built the nation’s largest hospital corporation, has zeroed in on the crisis of drug pricing. His proposal to outlaw any U.S. drug price that is higher than the price for the same medicine overseas fuses the twin populist urges of corporate accountability and nationalism. The novelty of Scott’s proposal is that it uses the profit motive to achieve an end Democrats have sought only through socialistic means.

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https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/05/two-brand-new-senators-cast-light-gops-post-trump-future/
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It took a political hijacker like Trump to elevate Republicans out of the losing rut in which our old, Goldwater-ish GOP had become mired.

GOLDWATER-ISH? That's a laugh-riot, right there.

Populism is the direct bane of Conservatism... Every bit a lack of principle as liberalism.
What is being called conservatism in this movement is anything but. It is very much more akin to liberalism.

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Scott, a self-made health-care CEO who built the nation’s largest hospital corporation, has zeroed in on the crisis of drug pricing. His proposal to outlaw any U.S. drug price that is higher than the price for the same medicine overseas fuses the twin populist urges of corporate accountability and nationalism. The novelty of Scott’s proposal is that it uses the profit motive to achieve an end Democrats have sought only through socialistic means.

How the hell is that Conservatism?

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Seven republicaans voted with dems on Amnesty.

Be sure to give me sum dat "Principle."

2008 McCain loss

2012 Romney loss

Those are the "principles" in the GOP comfort zone.

Stepping forward to "lead" we meet McMuffin and Amash.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2019, 06:31:03 pm by truth_seeker »
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How the hell is that Conservatism?

I agree completely.  And I think the best way to point out the flaw in that is to consider what it means in practice:.  So, if you take Scott at his word:

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His proposal to outlaw any U.S. drug price that is higher than the price for the same medicine overseas....

Meaning that drug companies can no longer sell anti-AIDS, etc., drugs at cost to poor African countries.  Which means drug companies must either eliminate completely the ability to earn a profit both overseas and in the U.S....or just stop selling them for little or no profit in Africa, and just sell them at a higher price in the U.S..  Which route do you suppose an intelligent business would choose, and how does that net result benefit anyone?
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So, if you take Scott at his word:

Meaning that drug companies can no longer sell anti-AIDS, etc., drugs at cost to poor African countries.  Which means drug companies must either eliminate completely the ability to earn a profit both overseas and in the U.S....or just stop selling them for little or no profit in Africa, and just sell them at a higher price in the U.S..  Which route do you suppose an intelligent business would choose, and how does that net result benefit anyone?

That's right - And predictably true.

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Josh Hawley, that was a gimme... and Rick Scott. They will both do well I think.  I think Hawley is onto something, one doesn't have to always be presidential (they might be), to do great things or at least, be useful and be visionary.

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There is no Post-Trump future for the GOP

Dead Party Walking

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There is no Post-Trump future for the GOP

Dead Party Walking

Dr. Ben Sasse, PhD, Harvard, Yale, Oxford hopes to lead the post Trump GOP.


Yet poll after poll finds about 80% of Republicans approve of Trump while about 10% od democrats approve.


The #nevertrump faction, is indeed small but loud. Think Bill Kristol.




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dfw wrote:
"There is no Post-Trump future for the GOP
Dead Party Walking"


Ouch!

I'd like to refute your assertion, but...
... I cannot.

I contend that the only reason the Pubbies are still alive and kickin' at all is because they have Mr. Trump in the White House.

The Republicans are alive because he is the first one in decades who kicks, claws and FIGHTS BACK tooth-and-nail against the democrat-communists.

Once he's gone, regardless of however "good" the younger ones may be, if they're not willing to fight the same way, they're gonna get walked over, just like "Mr. GOPe" M. Romney himself.

My opinion only, but I don't believe there's a one of them that's gonna do that.
And that means some very difficult years ahead, Post-Trump.

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Some beliefs are beyond laughable such as the notion that the GOP is a Conservative Party.
Our Principled Conservative party was the Agrarian and Rural Democrats of the South, among
Jefferson, Madison, Monroe..........as well as many more Founders,
The Republican Party was born on the eve of our Civil War as the party of the New England
Merchant Class.