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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2019, 05:06:47 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 05:02:55 pm
See, both prominent pro-choicers here just result to personal attacks, their arguments are so weak, just ad homs so we see people promoting black genocide.    http://blackgenocide.org/home.html

See, this proves, all Jazzhead's arguments and now, this have never been anything more than mudslinging.  No substance to the arguments.

One always sees upper class white women at pro-abortion rallies and the truth is, is that minorities are greatly disaffected disproportionately.

Nope.  I indulged myself in an ad hominem only after being attacked with one by being called sick.  You really should learn some argumentation 101; it would do you a world of good. 

As far as this subject ever being settle through discussion in this echo chamber:  I agree it will never happen, simply because the antis can’t bring themselves to think rationally about the matter or to concede that their subjective religious beliefs might not actually be universal. 

Such is life. 

Good luck with the self-righteousness.  And enjoy being shut down in the courts over, and over, and over, and ....  Well, even you should get the point.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2019, 05:09:33 pm »
Nobody, some do but many are not expecting Kavanaugh and Gorsuch to wave a magic wand and the decision to be reversed,

The Democrats wouldn't even let Kavanaugh be nominated without a huge smear and hate campaign, because Klan Parenthood is nothing but a puppetmaster of the Democrat party, they don't give a dump about their constituency.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2019, 05:13:07 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 04:59:34 pm
Choicers rely on ad-homs, that's why maybe they should be answered back in it. It's a pointless debate really because it just always results in personal attacks.

With all the dichotomies in their seemingly muddled thought processes there is one constant in the 'progressive' mindset - the desire to offend, provoke & outrage those who are guided by Judeo Christian tradition. Its really the only thing they care about.

Bill's comments are just more proof.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2019, 05:17:36 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 05:06:47 pm
Nope.  I indulged myself in an ad hominem only after being attacked with one by being called sick. 


Well I really don't know what else to think. Maybe you shouldn't express such strange fantasies on a public forum, yeah?
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2019, 05:22:21 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on May 25, 2019, 05:17:36 pm
Well I really don't know what else to think. Maybe you shouldn't express such strange fantasies on a public forum, yeah?

That’s rich.  Schafenfreude is not sick.  I’m going to enjoy the irrational wailing and gnashing of teeth when you get shut down, again, in court. 
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2019, 05:36:23 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 04:57:58 pm
Actually, it’s not.  Watching fascists come undone is quite healthy and liberating.

Are there TBR Members who you are calling "Fascists?"  Or are you referring to the elected government of Alabama?
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2019, 06:01:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 05:36:23 pm
Are there TBR Members who you are calling "Fascists?"  Or are you referring to the elected government of Alabama?

Good question. What say you, @Bill Cipher ?
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2019, 06:46:17 pm »
I say it amuses me to watch the squirming.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2019, 07:07:08 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 06:46:17 pm
I say it amuses me to watch the squirming.

Try answering my non-rhetorical question, @Bill Cipher.  Do you think there are Fascists in the TBR Membership List.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2019, 07:24:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 07:07:08 pm
Try answering my non-rhetorical question, @Bill Cipher.  Do you think there are Fascists in the TBR Membership List.

No boss, I thinks nuttin’ o de kind, boss.  Ta tink udderwise wud be bad. 
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2019, 07:34:42 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 07:24:35 pm
No boss, I thinks nuttin’ o de kind, boss.  Ta tink udderwise wud be bad.

You can be a funny fellow sometimes.... :whistle:
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2019, 07:38:40 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 07:34:42 pm
You can be a funny fellow sometimes.... :whistle:

I think he was just "shakin the tree" boss.  Shakin the tree.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2019, 07:40:52 pm »
To be fair to all, including @Bill Cipher   , I think the whole thing started with a bit of a provocation and I don't hold myself blameless either....these conversations can often start out as a free-for-all; and I'd drop it. We got the usual broken-record defense from one member here.... which is pretty tired but it wasn't "Bill", I'd drop it, let's start out again.  This topic can bearely be discussed here and especially on this weekend... well, anyone can debate like adults. I don't want to go that far.  Just my two cents, I was here, pretty much from the initial argument.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2019, 07:51:07 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on May 25, 2019, 07:38:40 pm
I think he was just "shakin the tree" boss.  Shakin the tree.

I think so too.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2019, 07:53:18 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 07:40:52 pm
To be fair to all, including @Bill Cipher   , I think the whole thing started with a bit of a provocation and I don't hold myself blameless either....these conversations can often start out as a free-for-all; and I'd drop it. We got the usual broken-record defense from one member here.... which is pretty tired but it wasn't "Bill", I'd drop it, let's start out again.  This topic can bearely be discussed here and especially on this weekend... well, anyone can debate like adults. I don't want to go that far.  Just my two cents, I was here, pretty much from the initial argument.

I agree, and I consider it "no harm, no foul."
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2019, 08:10:42 pm »
To all:  :beer:

Enjoy the weekend!
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2019, 08:32:06 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 08:10:42 pm
To all:  :beer:

Enjoy the weekend!

Fireworks tomorrow at a Casino across the river in Laughlin.  They tell me I can see it clearly from my house (better than Russia!).  There will be beer.   :beer:
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2019, 09:51:48 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 25, 2019, 04:25:53 pm
The bill is blatantly unConstitutional  . . . .  <blah blah blah>  . . . .  the supporters of the bill know it is unconstitutional  . . . .  <blah blah blah>  . . . .  Its unconstitutionality will be affirmed by the Court of Appeals  . . . .

@Jazzhead, can you please cite for us the specific part of the US Constitution that this law violates?


Quote from: Jazzhead on May 25, 2019, 04:35:05 pm
That genie is not returning to its bottle.

This is the exact same argument that Thomas Jefferson gave in defense of slavery.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2019, 10:18:26 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 04:49:00 pm
But what they did do is give judges the power to shut down unconstitutional legislation as violative of the Constitution

@Bill Cipher

What part of the Constitution does this legislation violate?  Please be specific.


Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 04:57:58 pm
Watching fascists come undone is quite healthy and liberating.

The 'fascists' are the ones intent on denying the people of the State of Mississippi from formulating their own laws.


Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 05:00:50 pm
However, please don’t let me stop you from convincing yourself of your own self-righteousness.

Self-righteousness?  Our side is perfectly content in deferring to the people of Mississippi to formulate their own laws, yielding to the Constitution as the foundational guide.  Compare that to your side who is adamant in usurping the people of Mississippi of their right to self rule as you impose your own selfish version of righteousness upon them with zero regard to the limitations the Constitution.

Personally, I have no problem with what laws the people of Mississippi CHOOSE to enact within the boundaries of the Constitution since I do not live there.  Yet for some reason, you feel the need to impose your will on the people living there by denying their ability and choice to set their own laws.  Why is that?


Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 05:06:47 pm
As far as this subject ever being settle through discussion in this echo chamber:  I agree it will never happen, simply because the antis can’t bring themselves to think rationally about the matter or to concede that their subjective religious beliefs might not actually be universal.

Religious beliefs?  Uh, no.  This isn't about religion.  It is about the right of the citizens of Mississippi to choose their own laws, a right that you would gladly deny.  The reason this subject won't be settled is because 'truth' has been abandoned by the side that can't even openly admit their inability to identify what part of the Constitution is being violated here.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2019, 10:19:28 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 25, 2019, 10:18:26 pm
@Bill Cipher

What part of the Constitution does this legislation violate?  Please be specific.


The 'fascists' are the ones intent on denying the people of the State of Mississippi from formulating their own laws.


Self-righteousness?  Our side is perfectly content in deferring to the people of Mississippi to formulate their own laws, yielding to the Constitution as the foundational guide.  Compare that to your side who is adamant in usurping the people of Mississippi of their right to self rule as you impose your own selfish version of righteousness upon them with zero regard to the limitations the Constitution.

Personally, I have no problem with what laws the people of Mississippi CHOOSE to enact within the boundaries of the Constitution since I do not live there.  Yet for some reason, you feel the need to impose your will on the people living there by denying their ability and choice to set their own laws.  Why is that?


Religious beliefs?  Uh, no.  This isn't about religion.  It is about the right of the citizens of Mississippi to choose their own laws, a right that you would gladly deny.  The reason this subject won't be settled is because 'truth' has been abandoned by the side that can't even openly admit their inability to identify what part of the Constitution is being violated here.

@Hoodat

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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2019, 10:41:47 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 08:10:42 pm
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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2019, 11:16:56 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on May 25, 2019, 10:41:47 pm
Are you going to rally around the flag? 

I’m at work.  All three days.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2019, 11:36:01 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 11:16:56 pm
I’m at work.  All three days.

Horse hockey.  Your eyes are floating.
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2019, 11:46:54 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on May 25, 2019, 11:36:01 pm
Horse hockey.  Your eyes are floating.

Whatever.  :shrug:
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Re: Judge halts Mississippi abortion law
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2019, 11:48:42 pm »
Quote from: Bill Cipher on May 25, 2019, 11:16:56 pm
I’m at work.  All three days.

I'm certainly not going anywhere.



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