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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2019, 12:44:11 am »
This declassification order was never going to be able to be made until after the Mueller investigation had completed.  Aside from the public perception issue that Trump was "obstructing justice" by declassifying and potentially releasing some of these documents, Mueller's investigators pretty much had frozen a large number of potential documents as being part of their ongoing investigations.

That is exactly correct.  Thanks @EdJames
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2019, 03:21:23 am »
Haven't read the entire thread.

Julian Assange....?

Who knows....what...and can prove it....?

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #77 on: May 25, 2019, 01:40:32 pm »
That is exactly correct.  Thanks @EdJames

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2019, 02:34:25 pm »
This is BIG people...I thought you would all be thrilled....this is a tough audience :2popcorn:

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It has the potential to be YUGE!

I say "potential" because we need to wait and see how many Dim bills pass through Congress to stop this,and how many other roadblocks are put in the way to stop it until at least after the next elections.

Does anyone REALLY think the evil criminal creatures that run the DNC and their bosses are going to take this lying down? It is a DIRECT threat to their power,and they just can't sit still ad let it slide past them unopposed.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2019, 02:51:13 pm »
@mystery-ak

It has the potential to be YUGE!

I say "potential" because we need to wait and see how many Dim bills pass through Congress to stop this,and how many other roadblocks are put in the way to stop it until at least after the next elections.

Does anyone REALLY think the evil criminal creatures that run the DNC and their bosses are going to take this lying down? It is a DIRECT threat to their power,and they just can't sit still ad let it slide past them unopposed.

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I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #80 on: May 25, 2019, 02:57:53 pm »
@sneakypete

I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.
True. Somehow, Someway, the American political system today has mysteriously evolved in such a way that unknown, unelected Judges from anywhere have VETO power over anything the President does. This needs to be fixed.

It makes no sense at all.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #81 on: May 25, 2019, 03:22:57 pm »
True. Somehow, Someway, the American political system today has mysteriously evolved in such a way that unknown, unelected Judges from anywhere have VETO power over anything the President does. This needs to be fixed.

It makes no sense at all.

It's deference to tyrants wearing black robes.  Boyd Hartman warned us about this a few years ago.

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Mark Levin has also written several books on the subject for even longer.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2019, 07:33:51 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2019, 08:10:53 pm »
@sneakypete

I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.

I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #84 on: May 25, 2019, 08:35:00 pm »
I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.

Quite right.  I saw a story this morning that the Director of National Intelligence (Coats) said the information Barr gets from him will be redacted.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #85 on: May 25, 2019, 09:08:14 pm »
I think I'll wait to be excited if something actually happens.  Even if it does...it won't be reported.

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #86 on: May 26, 2019, 02:30:21 am »
I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.

The most lucid assessment I've seen to date @EdJames.  Anyone who believes draining the swamp is going to be easy or quick is outright delusional.  The swamp will resist in every manner at their disposal for as long as possible.
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #87 on: May 26, 2019, 03:03:59 am »
Yes, @EdJames analysis, as often, is poignant and an asset to these discussions.

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #88 on: May 26, 2019, 03:06:53 am »
Yes, @EdJames analysis, as often, is poignant and an asset to these discussions.

He's good alright.  @EdJames
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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #89 on: May 26, 2019, 01:05:06 pm »
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Thanks guys.  All three of you guys add a lot more to the conversations here than my sporadic "lucid" posts!!

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Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2019, 03:07:39 pm »
@Bigun
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Thanks guys.  All three of you guys add a lot more to the conversations here than my sporadic "lucid" posts!!

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