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Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« on: May 23, 2019, 03:56:49 pm »
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Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
By Frank Gardner BBC security correspondent

The Archbishop of Irbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan, has accused Britain's Christian leaders of failing to do enough in defence of the vanishing Christian community in Iraq.

In an impassioned address in London, the Rt Rev Bashar Warda said Iraq's Christians now faced extinction after 1,400 years of persecution.

Since the US-led invasion toppled the regime of Saddam Hussein in 2003, he said, the Christian community had dwindled by 83%, from around 1.5 million to just 250,000.

Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48333923?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 04:05:36 pm »
Thanks, Dumya.

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2019, 04:16:48 pm »
Should have had loads of troops on the ground, that's the sad part.... that's why going into Iran (which certainly would be an air attack early on, if it happened which I think not), Venezuela (which won't happen either), these kinds of efforts take a real commitment.

The research is all available to everyone of us to see what happened, not to denigrate the noble service of our men and women.

I didn't see Vice, I'm not totally savvy on what Cheney did but I did watch a discussion of this guy complaining on Cheney, saying DC was really the brains behind the operation.

And the persecution of Christians, it can not be missed, accelerated by 50%, probably a lot more under Obama and withdrawing our troops in 2011. That's when things went to hell in a hand-basket.

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2019, 04:30:06 pm »
Striking at Christians is the Terrorists way of striking at the West... sad but true... and they've always I think, suffered some persecution. In fact,  Saddam wasn't the persecutor but it also happened some under Hussein. I read some account that was even before the invasion.



If you go into somewhere, like Libya too, have the means to secure the place as best one can.

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2019, 04:42:32 pm »
Thanks, Dumya.

I love ya, brother, but you're wrong here.

President Bush could not foresee the Democrats putting up a Gentleman's Quarterly cover-boy who was a Muslim sympathetic to an Islamic State headquartered out of Tehran.

...no more than too many of us here didn't expect to see who's POTUS now.

The SOB sealed the Christian genocide when he had Joe Biden pull out of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).

Barack Obama is responsible for the State of the Middle East today.

And we finally have a President who says, 'We're finished carrying the guilt for dropping those atomic bombs!  We're through with the guilt for being the best GD place on the planet.'

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 04:53:32 pm »
I love ya, brother, but you're wrong here.

President Bush could not foresee the Democrats putting up a Gentleman's Quarterly cover-boy who was a Muslim sympathetic to an Islamic State headquartered out of Tehran.

...no more than too many of us here didn't expect to see who's POTUS now.

The SOB sealed the Christian genocide when he had Joe Biden pull out of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).

Barack Obama is responsible for the State of the Middle East today.

And we finally have a President who says, 'We're finished carrying the guilt for dropping those atomic bombs!  We're through with the guilt for being the best GD place on the planet.'

Sorry, Bush does shoulder blame here as well, Christian persecution started right after the "liberation of Iraq", it's inescapable and persecuted Christians will tell you that.  Research but if you don't want to...

Objective evidence, CBS, 2007:

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Vicar: Dire Times For Iraq's Christians
Tells 60 Minutes Most Of Iraq's Christians Have Fled Or Been Killed

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But now, after nearly 2,000 years, Iraqi Christians are being hunted, murdered and forced to flee -- persecuted on a biblical scale in Iraq's religious civil war. You'd have to be mad to hold a Christian service in Iraq today, but if you must, then the vicar of Baghdad is your man. He's the Reverend Canon Andrew White, an Anglican chaplain who suffers from multiple sclerosis and from a fanatical determination to save the last Iraqi Christians from the purge.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vicar-dire-times-for-iraqs-christians/

2007, BO, Before Obama.  Don't take my word, research it for oneself!

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As said, it deeply accelerated under Obama but it was very much there before.

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2019, 04:58:58 pm »
Sorry, Bush does shoulder blame here as well, Christian persecution started right after the "liberation of Iraq", it's inescapable and persecuted Christians will tell you that.  Research but if you don't want to...

Objective evidence, CBS, 2007:

2007, BO, Before Obama.  Don't take my word, research it for oneself!

@DCPatriot

As said, it deeply accelerated under Obama but it was very much there before.

Thanks, @TomSea !

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2019, 09:41:08 pm »
I love ya, brother, but you're wrong here.

President Bush could not foresee the Democrats putting up a Gentleman's Quarterly cover-boy who was a Muslim sympathetic to an Islamic State headquartered out of Tehran.

...no more than too many of us here didn't expect to see who's POTUS now.

The SOB sealed the Christian genocide when he had Joe Biden pull out of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).

Barack Obama is responsible for the State of the Middle East today.

And we finally have a President who says, 'We're finished carrying the guilt for dropping those atomic bombs!  We're through with the guilt for being the best GD place on the planet.'

In retrospect, while we were justified in retaliating against the Taliban in Afghanistan, it would have been better for America to have simply left it at that, without taking it further and trying to remake the Middle East starting with Iraq—especially when you consider the cost in lives and treasure of that foreign intervention.

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Re: Iraq's Christians 'close to extinction'
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2019, 09:48:32 pm »
In retrospect, while we were justified in retaliating against the Taliban in Afghanistan, it would have been better for America to have simply left it at that, without taking it further and trying to remake the Middle East starting with Iraq—especially when you consider the cost in lives and treasure of that foreign intervention.

Agree. And we should have fought the urge to nation build in Afghanistan.  We should have dropped more bunker busters .... wiped out AQ and as much of the Taliban as possible, accepted collateral damage, declared our job was done and left.

We should have left Iraq alone after 9/11.  There'd be a weaker Iran today if we had.