Author Topic: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him  (Read 818 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,385
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« on: May 22, 2019, 05:51:30 am »
The Mets' skipper didn't fear using his closer in a tie. The Nats' skipper did. Make it two straight for the Mets after Callaway's vote of confidence, then.
By Yours Truly
https://throneberryfields.com/2019/05/21/martinez-fiddled-after-callaway-burned-him/


We presume it’s Amed Rosario getting the
Gatorade shower from Adeiny Hechavarria (11)
and Pete Alonso (20) with Edwin Diaz (39)
enjoying the fun. All three figured big in the Mets’
Tuesday night win . . .


You’re not going to believe this. Even I’m not sure I believe it, and I was watching.

The Mets hosting the Nationals. Each team shepherded by a pair of managers about whom saying they’re on the proverbial hot seat is a little like saying the Titanic had a little bump on the starboard hull. Playing the second game of a set that began with Mets manager Mickey Callaway barely dodging a date with the executioner.

As if to give Callaway their own vote of confidence after the front office gave him one Monday afternoon, the Mets beat the Nats 5-3 in ten innings Monday night. And it proved to be nothing compared to how the Mets beat them 6-5 Tuesday night.

And, to how Callaway actually out-skippered Nats manager Dave Martinez when the same situation presented to each skipper. With Martinez having no further to look than across the field as well as the mound to get the hint.

Three times the Mets came from behind in the game and entered the top of the ninth tied at five. And Callaway decided to forget whatever it is his Book told him earlier in the season regarding his closer Edwin Diaz.

Actually, Callaway had decided then that Diaz wasn’t going to be in anything much other than no-questions-asked save situations, even when the Mets needed a stopper before such situations arose, if they arose.

Maybe Callaway saw the light. Maybe he felt the heat. But that was then, this was now, and there was Diaz strolling to the mound to open the top of the ninth in a five-all tie. And he zipped his way around a one-out single with two strikeouts for the side. Then it was Martinez’s turn.

Martinez’s closer Sean Doolittle was nowhere to be seen in the bottom of the ninth. “Martinez considered using Doolittle,” noted the Washington Post‘s Jesse Dougherty, “but wanted to keep him ready for a potential save situation.” Infamous last words?

If you didn’t count Mets rookie Pete Alonso hitting a 1-2 service about 25 feet above the top of the left field foul pole to tie the game at five in the first place, with one out in the bottom of the eighth, Martinez liked what he saw from rookie righthander Tanner Rainey. Maybe too much so.

Martinez stayed with Rainey. And at first Martinez looked like a genius when Rainey struck out Carlos Gomez on a climbing 3-2 fastball. Then Rainey walked pinch-hitter Adeiny Hechavarria after a seven-pitch wrestle. After which Rainey walked late game insertion J.D. Davis on seven pitches.

Doolittle was still the invisible Nat, but Kyle Barraclough, one of the Nats’ more notorious arsonists, was very visible warming up most of the inning. In he came. You could hear everyone back in Washington unoccupied with the foibles and follies of government wondering aloud if the game was lost right then and there. You couldn’t blame them.

At first Barraclough looked to keep things in order enough when he got Jeff McNeil to hop one that might have been a extra innings-setting double play, until the ball hopped oddly to second baseman Brian Dozier allowing McNeil, who’d broken out of the batter’s box like a horse busting out of the gate, to make first safe and first and third, period.

And Doolittle remained the invisible Nat.

After McNeil took second on the house, the Nats not even bothering, Barraclough fell behind 3-1 to Mets shortstop Amed Rosario. Then Rosario bopped one off the plate and two-hopping it to his Nats counterpart Trea Turner playing deep enough. Rosario up the line and Hechavarria from third made McNeil resemble a flu-addled mule, Rosario beating Turner’s throw to first by a step and Hechavarria shooting home with the winning run.

To think that the Nats had taken a 3-1 lead off Mets starter Zack Wheeler in the seventh, after Callaway left Wheeler in for one pitch too many, the one-out/one-on/1-1 hanging slider Dozier hung over the left field fence.

To think that Callaway atoned for that mistake in the bottom of the inning when he shifted into all-hands-on-deck mode and got rewarded richly enough. By usually slow catcher Wilson Ramos following a leadoff single by taking second alertly on a passed ball. By Wheeler’s pinch hitter Dom Smith wringing Nats reliever Wander Suero for a four-pitch walk. By Davis catching hold of Suero’s hanging curve on 1-2 and sending it the other way off the top of the right field fence to give the Mets a 4-3 lead.

To think that Turner in the top of the eighth would hit a bizarre RBI double, the liner hitting a concrete sidewall past the left field foul line and then taking the kind of ricochet you’d see throwing a rubber ball to a stoop with the ball hitting the edge of a step, shooting past the oncoming Davis inserted into left field. And, that Juan Soto—who led off the top of the second with a hefty home run off Wheeler to open the game’s scoring—would double to right a walk and a sacrifice bunt later.

And, to think that Alonso would tie the game while breaking the Mets’ rookie record for most pre-All Star break home runs while also hitting the eleventh of his sixteen bombs on the season in or after the seventh inning.

No wonder he’s already in the Rookie of the Year conversation. So far as bullpens are concerned the bulls probably think Alonso might as well check in at the plate in a matador outfit with a big red cape for what he does to those bulls, and a sword instead of a bat.

But Callaway’s bigger test comes Wednesday, when Jacob deGrom squares off against Max Scherzer in the second meeting between National League Cy Young Award winners defending (deGrom) and past (Scherzer, twice). When he has to decide at long last, does he insist stubbornly on running Ramos out behind the plate despite the 5.33 ERA deGrom has throwing to him, or does he wake up and run Tomas Nido—throwing to whom deGrom’s ERA this year is 0.43—out to work?

Callaway showed Monday night that he can be a little on the bold side when the situation demands it. Well, Wednesday night demands it. If the Mets want a shot at sweeping the staggering Nats and maybe postponing Callaway’s execution orders far further while they’re at it, it needs to be Nido catching deGrom. There needn’t be any further debate.
---------------
@Polly Ticks
@Machiavelli
@AllThatJazzZ
@AmericanaPrime
@andy58-in-nh
@Applewood
@Bigun
@catfish1957
@corbe
@Cyber Liberty
@DCPatriot
@dfwgator
@EdJames
@Freya
@goatprairie
@GrouchoTex
@Mom MD
@musiclady
@mystery-ak
@Right_in_Virginia
@Sanguine
@skeeter
@Skeptic
@Slip18
@Suppressed
@SZonian
@TomSea
@truth_seeker
« Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 05:54:31 am by EasyAce »


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,016
  • Gender: Male
  • "...and the winning number is...not yours!
Re: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2019, 09:14:21 am »
 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000 9999hair out0000
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EdJames

  • Certified Trump Realist
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,791
Re: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2019, 07:46:52 pm »
It sounds like that Nat's manager, Martinez, was sticking to the old unwritten "rule" (of not using your closer in an extra inning game on the road until you get the lead) by viewing the tied game in the 9th as if it were already in extra innings.  He had no rope left if/when the Mets scored, and he lost!

(And yes, it should be Nido catching deGrom tonight!)

Online Bigun

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51,555
  • Gender: Male
  • Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God
    • The FairTax Plan
Re: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2019, 10:10:21 pm »
Astros are 33 and 16 presently IIRC.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

Online DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,016
  • Gender: Male
  • "...and the winning number is...not yours!
Re: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2019, 10:29:48 pm »
It sounds like that Nat's manager, Martinez, was sticking to the old unwritten "rule" (of not using your closer in an extra inning game on the road until you get the lead) by viewing the tied game in the 9th as if it were already in extra innings.  He had no rope left if/when the Mets scored, and he lost!

(And yes, it should be Nido catching deGrom tonight!)

The previous night, the NATS' announcers made sure everybody was aware that the METS manager publicly announced that (paraphrased) 'Under no circumstances will our CLOSER be used for more than 3 outs'

So much for that 'lie'.    :laugh:

Davey Martinez doesn't have the gravitas to get more passion out of these guys.  They'd better trade Anthony Rendon before the break.

Maybe we could get another ACE and a couple of prospects.  He's currently in the Top 5 batting, albeit with a smaller sample size due to injury.

He's twice as valuable as Bryce Harper, IMO.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,385
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Martinez fiddled after Callaway burned him
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 12:34:52 am »
The previous night, the NATS' announcers made sure everybody was aware that the METS manager publicly announced that (paraphrased) 'Under no circumstances will our CLOSER be used for more than 3 outs'

So much for that 'lie'.    :laugh:
@DCPatriot
They didn't use Diaz for more than three outs Tuesday night.

Callaway also said in April he wasn't going to bring him into "non-save" situations. I'm guessing his "vote of confidence" might have included a little, ahem, advisory (ho ho ho) that when you need a stopper you bring his ass in in that moment . . .

Meanwhile as I write Calloway finally used his brains in another direction: he has Tomas Nido catching Jacob deGrom. And other than a first-inning solo homer, deGrom is pitching comfortably to Nido.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.