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Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
MSN, May 8, 2019, NY Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump asserted executive privilege on Wednesday in an effort to shield hidden portions of Robert S. Mueller III’s unredacted report and the evidence he collected from Congress.

The assertion, Mr. Trump’s first use of the secrecy powers as president, came as the House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote Wednesday morning to recommend the House of Representatives hold Attorney General William P. Barr in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena for the same material.

This is to advise you that the president has asserted executive privilege over the entirety of the subpoenaed materials,” a Justice Department official, Stephen E. Boyd, wrote Wednesday morning, referencing not only the Mueller report but the underlying evidence that House Democrats are seeking.

Mr. Barr released a redacted version of the special counsel’s 448-page report voluntarily last month. But Democrats say that is not good enough, and they have accused the attorney general of stonewalling a legitimate request for material they need to carry out an investigation into possible obstruction of justice and abuse of power by Mr. Trump.

The House Judiciary Committee prepared to vote Wednesday morning to hold Mr. Barr in contempt, despite a threat issued late Tuesday night from the Justice Department that it would ask the president to invoke executive privilege over the materials the Democrats are demanding.

Committee Democrats did not take kindly to the department’s threat.


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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 11:18:05 AM »
Congressional Dems to President Trump:   EFF YOU!

Trump to Congressional Dems:  EFF YOU!

What a way to run a government! 

Of course, the beauty part is that, while the House and Trump are telling each other to eff themselves,  there's no legislation, no spending boondoggles, no "progress" being made of any kind.   We are, at least for a time, a free people!   
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 11:26:00 AM »
Congressional Dems to President Trump:   EFF YOU!

Trump to Congressional Dems:  EFF YOU!

What a way to run a government! 

Of course, the beauty part is that, while the House and Trump are telling each other to eff themselves,  there's no legislation, no spending boondoggles, no "progress" being made of any kind.   We are, at least for a time, a free people!

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 11:29:00 AM »
Trump owes this to his office.

Of course the media with their usual accuracy will couch it as something completely different.

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 11:29:31 AM »
Not that he listens to me, but this seems like a bad idea.  It makes it look like Trump is hiding something personal and troublesome.
Cui bono?

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 11:31:19 AM »


Of course, the beauty part is that, while the House and Trump are telling each other to eff themselves,  there's no legislation, no spending boondoggles, no "progress" being made of any kind.   We are, at least for a time, a free people!

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We are, at least for now, safe from our elected overlords passing new laws and losses of our freedoms!

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 11:33:16 AM »
Not that he listens to me, but this seems like a bad idea.  It makes it look like Trump is hiding something personal and troublesome.

I do not think he has a choice. The executive can yield only so much to the legislative branch, to continually do so will weaken any future president. There will be no end to congress's demands.

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 11:37:14 AM »
Frankly, I prefer the "Go pound sand" approach.  'Executive privilege' can be challenged.  'Go pound sand' cannot.
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 11:46:33 AM »
In a situation, where we actually had a government with the interest of the people at heart, the full report would be available to both the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. However, in this current climate, everyone is just trying to make a show for the base. It’s really pathetic.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2019, 11:52:17 AM »
In a situation, where we actually had a government with the interest of the people at heart, the full report would be available to both the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. However, in this current climate, everyone is just trying to make a show for the base. It’s really pathetic.

Is there any doubt grand jury information, classified information, information related to ongoing investigations, or information that would infringe on the privacy of “peripheral third parties” would find its way public if the rats thought leaking it would serve their political purposes?

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2019, 11:55:01 AM »
Is there any doubt grand jury information, classified information, information related to ongoing investigations, or information that would infringe on the privacy of “peripheral third parties” would find its way public if the rats thought leaking it would serve their political purposes?

I think that it is the "information related to ongoing investigations" that they are most desperate to get their grimy hands on.

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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2019, 11:56:54 AM »
I think that it is the "information related to ongoing investigations" that they are most desperate to get their grimy hands on.

Yes, and why would that concern them? :pondering:
Cui bono?

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2019, 12:10:25 PM »
I do not think he has a choice. The executive can yield only so much to the legislative branch, to continually do so will weaken any future president. There will be no end to congress's demands.

I agree.   The House majority is abusing its prerogatives,  masking its desire to dig partisan dirt in the cloak of "oversight".    And what this Congress does to this President, so the next one will do to the next President.    Trump is right to cast this fight as protective of the Constitutional separation of powers.     
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2019, 12:11:45 PM »
I agree.   The House majority is abusing its prerogatives,  masking its desire to dig partisan dirt in the cloak of "oversight".    And what this Congress does to this President, so the next one will do to the next President.    Trump is right to cast this fight as protective of the Constitutional separation of powers.   

And the only thing really being withheld from the committee is the grand jury material, which the LAW requires.

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2019, 12:16:24 PM »
Is there any doubt grand jury information, classified information, information related to ongoing investigations, or information that would infringe on the privacy of “peripheral third parties” would find its way public if the rats thought leaking it would serve their political purposes?


I don’t doubt it in the least.
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2019, 12:45:28 PM »
And the only thing really being withheld from the committee is the grand jury material, which the LAW requires.

They also seek the raw materials that the Mueller team reviewed that underlie its report.   That's outrageous.   But just think what a GOP Congress could do with that sort of power to harass a Democratic President!   

These games of chicken are played without a thought toward the future.    It won't always be a Dem Congress seeking political dirt on a GOP President.  Soon enough, the roles will be reversed.    Trump is properly protecting the authorities of all future Presidents that come after him.  Same goes with his efforts to stymie the House's venal attempt to obtain his confidential tax returns.   There, he's fighting to protect the privacy of all of us from politicized harassment.   
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2019, 01:18:02 PM »
They also seek the raw materials that the Mueller team reviewed that underlie its report.   That's outrageous.   But just think what a GOP Congress could do with that sort of power to harass a Democratic President!   

These games of chicken are played without a thought toward the future.    It won't always be a Dem Congress seeking political dirt on a GOP President.  Soon enough, the roles will be reversed.    Trump is properly protecting the authorities of all future Presidents that come after him.  Same goes with his efforts to stymie the House's venal attempt to obtain his confidential tax returns.   There, he's fighting to protect the privacy of all of us from politicized harassment.

I wish that were true - it would give the rats pause. But as long as the rats have the mainstream media running interference for them they need never worry about being subjected to the same ploys and tactics they employ on republicans. A complicit press is necessary for them to be effective.
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2019, 01:22:54 PM »
Congressional Dems to President Trump:   EFF YOU!

Trump to Congressional Dems:  EFF YOU!

What a way to run a government! 

Of course, the beauty part is that, while the House and Trump are telling each other to eff themselves,  there's no legislation, no spending boondoggles, no "progress" being made of any kind.   We are, at least for a time, a free people!

Maybe Trump should have replied, instead of Eff You, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"  This seems more in line with your constant criticism of what the President says and does. 
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2019, 01:32:00 PM »
Maybe Trump should have replied, instead of Eff You, "Thank you sir, may I have another?"  This seems more in line with your constant criticism of what the President says and does.

I have praised many of the President's policies, especially those which have contributed to the current economic boom.   I want those policies to continue.   I do not believe that Trump can be re-elected.   I therefore favor replacing him as the nominee so that his growth-oriented policies may continue, and not be replaced by the Dems' crackpot socialism. 

I understand you disagree,  and prefer that conservatives fight and die on Trump Hill.   I have no interest in seeing conservatism martyr itself. 
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2019, 02:53:37 PM »
Trump may be reelected. Or a democrat may defeat Trump.

The probability of a different Rpubliconservative winning is ZERO, ZED, NADA, ZIP.


At this time there is NO Ralph Aleppo Perot in the wings, waiting to run onto the stage.


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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2019, 03:08:18 PM »
Trump may be reelected. Or a democrat may defeat Trump.

The probability of a different Rpubliconservative winning is ZERO, ZED, NADA, ZIP.


At this time there is NO Ralph Aleppo Perot in the wings, waiting to run onto the stage.

Exactly right.    Even if there was a conservative willing to run against Trump they would have to have the financial resources to run against him and should they win then turn around and have the financial resources to run against the DEM nominee.  I know of no such person.
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 04:02:39 PM »
Trump may be reelected. Or a democrat may defeat Trump.

The probability of a different Rpubliconservative winning is ZERO, ZED, NADA, ZIP.


At this time there is NO Ralph Aleppo Perot in the wings, waiting to run onto the stage.

GOP leaders should attempt to persuade Trump to decline to run for re-election.   I certainly agree that if Trump wants to endure this hell and hatred for another four years,  he will be re-nominated.  But why not get back to his businesses and family while he still has his health?   
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 04:57:16 PM »
GOP leaders should attempt to persuade Trump to decline to run for re-election.   I certainly agree that if Trump wants to endure this hell and hatred for another four years,  he will be re-nominated.  But why not get back to his businesses and family while he still has his health?


Probably because it least one indictment from the SDNY awaits him, upon his return to private life.
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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2019, 05:12:50 PM »
Congressional Dems to President Trump:   EFF YOU!

Trump to Congressional Dems:  EFF YOU!

What a way to run a government! 

Of course, the beauty part is that, while the House and Trump are telling each other to eff themselves,  there's no legislation, no spending boondoggles, no "progress" being made of any kind.   We are, at least for a time, a free people!


President Trump HAS to do this or be run over by the communists in DEMON-RATS party!  I am happy he is standing up to this HARRASSEMNT...for made up HOAX.   

This forum is no different!  YOU think..we are better?  lol.   Virtue signaling is lame..for trying to make a point.

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Re: Trump Asserts Executive Privilege Over Full Mueller Report
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2019, 05:20:15 PM »
448 pages and Barr released 440 pages!   Still not good enough?  If we the people DON'T stand up with the president, we will end up like Venezuela.  I have said many times I lived SOCIALISM and we were starving.  Most people just don't get it.  Their hate for a good man..is more important.  SHEEP.


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