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This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
Posted on May 1, 2019 by Tribune News Service
 

DENVER — Jerry Burton has lived in a rapidly gentrifying neighborhood here for the past few months, in an orange tent pitched on a sidewalk. He and the other homeless campers on the block — Burton proudly calls the encampment “Jerr-E-Ville,” and has declared himself the unofficial mayor — are defying the city’s urban camping ban, which means they are always bracing for a visit from the police.

A caseworker from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs is trying to find permanent housing for the 57-year-old Marine Corps veteran whose tent is surrounded by his belongings neatly arranged in small plastic bags. In the meantime, Burton is hoping that Denver voters next week will overturn the city’s camping ban, thanks to an initiative he and others petitioned to get on the ballot.

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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2019, 12:26:57 PM »
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2019, 12:28:40 PM »
The disgusting homeless camps are already bad enough along the creeks and rivers here around Colorado Springs without give them carte blanche to do whatever in the state parks.  No one wants to go to Garden of the Gods and have to step over junkies trash and needles.

But Denver seems bound and determined to turn Colorado into the Rocky Mountain version of San Francisco.

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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2019, 12:45:45 PM »
Updated, camp cleared out.

“Jerr-E-ville” stands — and falls — as a symbol of Denver’s homeless struggle
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/02/initiative-300-camping-ban-jerreville/
May 2, 2019

...Jerry Burton’s camp had housed up to 20 people in tents along sidewalks in Curtis Park and Five Points. It went largely undisturbed for months, thanks in part to its relatively orderly appearance, despite the city’s urban camping ban....

...But Burton and his fellow residents were caught up last month in the city’s efforts to clear areas around Denver Rescue Mission and Curtis Park.

First, workers closed the sidewalk near Denver Rescue Mission following public health complaints about human waste, rodents and discarded drug paraphernalia. Displaced people then moved into residential neighborhoods, especially Curtis Park, where Jerr-E-ville stood for months.

“Rather than accessing the support we can provide to those living without a home, unfortunately, some folks moved and set up camps in the Curtis Park neighborhood,” wrote city spokesperson Julie Smith in an email.

Burton, a former enlisted U.S. Marine, had kept his camp in order, asking that residents refrain from hard drugs, conceal alcohol use and clean up after themselves. But the newcomers were more upsetting, said Ryan Cox, a resident of Curtis Park.

“It turned out to be quite a few folks that ended up in our neighborhood,” Cox said, estimating that 100 to 200 people moved onto Curtis Park streets last month. He said that he saw drugs, violence and a machete. Burton himself seemed upset by the change, Cox said, and Denver Homeless Out Loud faulted the city for “forcing two communities on top of each other.”

Jerr-E-ville moved several blocks to escape the chaos, and then moved again under threat of enforcement, eventually going to Commerce City before dispersing earlier this week. Burton was ticketed Monday for a camping ban violation in Denver. It’s the “most intense” enforcement that Howard has seen....
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2019, 08:19:28 PM »
Look no further than Seattle to see what that will bring you. It's out of control.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2019, 08:36:42 PM »
Look no further than Seattle to see what that will bring you. It's out of control.

Denver is well on its way there.  They passed an ordnance a couple months ago make it legal to poop in public.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2019, 09:05:16 PM »
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2019, 10:52:53 PM »
Denver is well on its way there.  They passed an ordnance a couple months ago make it legal to poop in public.

I don't know about being legal, but here in Seattle they are not arresting those who do, nor are they arresting them for anything but the most violent crimes. They are allowed up to 3 grams of heroin on their person which equates to 30 doses. And the city hands out needles. It use to be a needle exchange. Junkie brings in used needle and gets new one. The city now just hands them a 200 count packet.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 11:46:12 PM »
A video on Youtube titled "Seattle is Dying," is required viewing for anybody that is serious about this subject.

It is an eye opener for anybody near homeless encampments, etc.


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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 11:49:50 PM »
The disgusting homeless camps are already bad enough along the creeks and rivers here around Colorado Springs without give them carte blanche to do whatever in the state parks.  No one wants to go to Garden of the Gods and have to step over junkies trash and needles.

But Denver seems bound and determined to turn Colorado into the Rocky Mountain version of San Francisco.

Isn't all that legalized weed wonderful kids?

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Denver was already a leftist cesspool when I lived there in the 70's. Then the California leftists started moving to Denver to escape the leftist cesspool they had created in Ca that was taxing them to the gills to pay for all the "free" crap they voted for,and then sit about creating the same cess pool in Denver they had ran away from in Ca.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2019, 11:53:43 PM »
They are allowed up to 3 grams of heroin on their person which equates to 30 doses. And the city hands out needles. It use to be a needle exchange. Junkie brings in used needle and gets new one. 

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That would work if the needles came loaded with "hot shots".

You have a right to become a junkie if that is what you want. You do NOT have a right to expect the taxpayers to fund your lifestyle,though.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 03:25:33 AM »
The disgusting homeless camps are already bad enough along the creeks and rivers here around Colorado Springs without give them carte blanche to do whatever in the state parks.  No one wants to go to Garden of the Gods and have to step over junkies trash and needles.

But Denver seems bound and determined to turn Colorado into the Rocky Mountain version of San Francisco.

Isn't all that legalized weed wonderful kids?
Colorado is a beautiful State, with tremendous geology, geography, scenery, and resources.

But when I was down your way (northern side of the Front Range), I noticed the signs on the side of the road (Interstate 25) that said "Pull wrecked vehicles off the highway", which implies:
1: Wrecked vehicles are a common occurrence.
2: People have to be told to get them out of the way of traffic.

I drove the 'back roads' for the most part, it just seemed safer. Because there were no signs I figured they would be populated by drivers with a little more common sense.

For anyone with a lick of sense, it is a fine example of what not to do. Thankfully, while I was working down there, voters here back home (ND), who had passed medical weed at 60% in favor, rejected recreational weed by the same margin.

We have other things to tax to raise revenue (oil production, for example), and Colorado does, too, if the watermelon lobby would quit trying to stop the utilization of the State's natural resources and embrace the bounty under their feet.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 08:53:36 AM »
Colorado is a beautiful State, with tremendous geology, geography, scenery, and resources.

But when I was down your way (northern side of the Front Range), I noticed the signs on the side of the road (Interstate 25) that said "Pull wrecked vehicles off the highway", which implies:
1: Wrecked vehicles are a common occurrence.
2: People have to be told to get them out of the way of traffic.

I drove the 'back roads' for the most part, it just seemed safer. Because there were no signs I figured they would be populated by drivers with a little more common sense.

For anyone with a lick of sense, it is a fine example of what not to do. Thankfully, while I was working down there, voters here back home (ND), who had passed medical weed at 60% in favor, rejected recreational weed by the same margin.

We have other things to tax to raise revenue (oil production, for example), and Colorado does, too, if the watermelon lobby would quit trying to stop the utilization of the State's natural resources and embrace the bounty under their feet.

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The problem is not and never has been weed. The problem has been the promise of socialism and the implied promise of "nobody will have to work and all your basic needs will be taken care of for you." In the "Socialist Utopia" everyone will be able to be heroin junkies without worry because their heroin,their housing,their medical care,and the money they need to pay for anything else they might need will just be given to them.

Socialists and junkies have one thing in common. They are both ignorant children,regardless of their age or education level.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 09:26:02 AM »
If the ban is overturned  'homeless camps' should be put up on prominent politicians yards.

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if the watermelon lobby would quit trying to stop the utilization of the State's natural resources and embrace the bounty under their feet.

The people fought and won against a measure that would have caused problems for the oil and gas business here (Prop 112) and IIRC the legislature found a backdoor way around the will of the voters.

There's good reason why there's a petition going around to recall Gov. Polis.
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2019, 04:17:44 PM »
The people fought and won against a measure that would have caused problems for the oil and gas business here (Prop 112) and IIRC the legislature found a backdoor way around the will of the voters.

There's good reason why there's a petition going around to recall Gov. Polis.
The Legislature proved that what they want counts for more than industry when they banned 30 round magazines and chased Magpul out. Typical Communists, they are adept at spending other people's money, and have little regard for what generates that money. (A modus operandi currently active in California as well)
Still, one has to consider that the Left is very vocal, and like typical Bolsheviks, adept at giving the impression that many more people share their beliefs and opinions than actually do. Combined with media bias, those essential votes in the legislature to defeat this garbage just may be swayed by what they think is popular support when it really is only one wheel with a bad bearing. Unfortunately, much of the State's destiny is in the hands of only a couple of counties along the Front Range, the curse of having large cities in a rural state.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2019, 05:11:09 PM »
Denver is voting to become the first city to decriminalize hallucinogenic mushrooms

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2019, 11:33:26 PM »
Denver is voting to become the first city to decriminalize hallucinogenic mushrooms

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/us/denver-magic-mushrooms-vote-trnd/index.html
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The song that led to the great Californication of Colorado....maybe they'll hallucinate themselves back to reality....

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Gives a whole new meaning to the term of "Rush Hour Traffic",doesn't it?
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2019, 11:40:46 PM »
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Gives a whole new meaning to the term of "Rush Hour Traffic",doesn't it?
Yeah....but it explains the signs along I 25...."Remove wrecked vehicles from the roadway."
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 12:10:26 AM »
Yeah....but it explains the signs along I 25...."Remove wrecked vehicles from the roadway."

When/where I was growing up you weren't supposed to move anything until the LEOs were done.  I've always just figured those signs are there for people from other states.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 12:21:08 AM »
When/where I was growing up you weren't supposed to move anything until the LEOs were done.  I've always just figured those signs are there for people from other states.
When I was growing up, moving the vehicle was called anything from "leaving the scene" to tampering with evidence. Not sure how insurance works in CO, (if it's no-fault or not), but impeding the flow of traffic on that corridor along the Front Range could back up cars and trucks from Fort Collins to Denver pretty fast, just about any time of day, so I reckon they want to keep the vehicles moving.
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Re: This city might give homeless people the right to camp anywhere
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2019, 08:57:58 AM »
Leftists have lower standards, or no standards at all.  You can't complain to them about the bums.  They are bums.

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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2019, 10:31:36 AM »
Yeah....but it explains the signs along I 25...."Remove wrecked vehicles from the roadway."

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Why would the state of Colorado want a bunch of spaced-out hippies wandering around in the roads?

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