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Traumatic Brain Injury
« on: April 27, 2019, 10:07:34 pm »
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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 10:31:30 pm »
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Fred,I would be happy to do so if I could find it. I have never been able to figure out how to find old posts or threads here.

BTW,you don't have to be in the military to  have suffered TBI. I first got it from flat-track racing a motorcycle on Okinawa. Flipped it end for end several times running maybe 70 MPH,and skidding a considerable distance down the track on my head according to witnesses. The funny part is once I got back on my feet,I stumbled over to the motorcycle,started it up,and finished the race,bent frame,bent handlebars,and bent front forks and all. I was told everybody thought I was ok and a lot of them thought it was funny,but then after the race was over they noticed nobody could find me,so they had the crowd out beating the bushes to see where I had got off to. They did find me walking around mumbling nonsense,and loaded me on a ambulance and took me to the army hospital. Had amnesia for several months. I could remember my name and where I lived,but that was about it.

I went to VN less than a year later,and was blown off my feet by explosions a couple of times while I was there. No big deal. If you survived it,you didn't worry about it. One time I had shrapnel in the bottom of one of my boots,and another time I ended up picking a large chunk of shrapnel out of my rucksack. Normally no big deal,but I had a anti-tank mine in the rucksack. The NVA were running around in tanks in Laos at the time,and I wanted to kill a tank.

Truth to tell,I am not sure there was such a diagnosis as TBI in the 60's,and don't think it was ever determined I had it
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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 10:38:33 pm »
@bigheadfred I sure don't remember it.... :shrug:
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 10:41:54 pm »
@bigheadfred I sure don't remember it.... :shrug:

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Myst,I suspect he is talking about the thread I started about the tv program named Seal Team. It was just a few days ago.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2019, 12:18:48 am »
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The thread you posted.

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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2019, 12:55:43 am »
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Ed,do you mind telling me how you found the thread?

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1.  Click your Avatar to get your profile.
2.  Below your Avatar on the Profile page click "Show Posts." 
3.  Above post #1 there are three buttons, click "Topics."

The Seal Team post is right at the top.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 12:56:34 am »
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Ed,do you mind telling me how you found the thread?
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I also found it with a Goggle search:   "site:gopbriefingroom.com Traumatic Brain Injury"


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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2019, 12:59:15 am »
@sneakypete

1.  Click your Avatar to get your profile.
2.  Below your Avatar on the Profile page click "Show Posts." 
3.  Above post #1 there are three buttons, click "Topics."

The Seal Team post is right at the top.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2019, 01:01:46 am »
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I also found it with a Goggle search:   "site:gopbriefingroom.com Traumatic Brain Injury"

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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2019, 04:14:20 am »


How can we be of help to you?

How many care-givers do you have around you?

Are you eating?

Are you drinking plenty of water?

What does the Doc say about your brain and recovery?

We care and a number of us are praying.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2019, 10:53:13 am »
@bigheadfred

Fred,I would be happy to do so if I could find it. I have never been able to figure out how to find old posts or threads here.

BTW,you don't have to be in the military to  have suffered TBI. I first got it from flat-track racing a motorcycle on Okinawa. Flipped it end for end several times running maybe 70 MPH,and skidding a considerable distance down the track on my head according to witnesses. The funny part is once I got back on my feet,I stumbled over to the motorcycle,started it up,and finished the race,bent frame,bent handlebars,and bent front forks and all. I was told everybody thought I was ok and a lot of them thought it was funny,but then after the race was over they noticed nobody could find me,so they had the crowd out beating the bushes to see where I had got off to. They did find me walking around mumbling nonsense,and loaded me on a ambulance and took me to the army hospital. Had amnesia for several months. I could remember my name and where I lived,but that was about it.

I went to VN less than a year later,and was blown off my feet by explosions a couple of times while I was there. No big deal. If you survived it,you didn't worry about it. One time I had shrapnel in the bottom of one of my boots,and another time I ended up picking a large chunk of shrapnel out of my rucksack. Normally no big deal,but I had a anti-tank mine in the rucksack. The NVA were running around in tanks in Laos at the time,and I wanted to kill a tank.

Truth to tell,I am not sure there was such a diagnosis as TBI in the 60's,and don't think it was ever determined I had it
I think they just called it a "concussion".

Nothing so spectacular for me, I got my bell rung when a van (doing 55 in a residential area, failed to yield) t-boned my '70 Dodge Coronet, hitting it right behind my seat. Knocked the car 4 feet sideways, by the tire marks, before it spun down the side street I had been crossing. I caught my head on the third bounce off the side window glass (which somehow didn't break despite being bent over 4 inches with the door) thinking "If the glass breaks, I'm dead". Everything was in slow motion at that point. 
Short term memory shot, I had to take a year comprehensive 5-hour Calculus exam five days later (I flunked it). I couldn't keep the thread of logic for what was going on long enough to work the problems. They would not let me postpone the exam.
Thankfully, I had already interviewed for a job starting later that month. I drove what was left of the car out to the west side of ND later that month to go to work in the oil patch, and wore out a 3,000 mile old set of tires (to the cords) in under 400 miles, just to get there  By then, the fog had lifted, for the most part, and I got on okay, but for a guy who could memorize the drawing numbers for three or four different pieces to go pull the blueprints, (working summers as a structural steel fitter), I still can't recall things like I used to. I have to work at it a little bit.

I'll find that episode and watch it. I watched the show for a while, but haven't seen it since a childhood (and lifelong) friend who was in the teams died.
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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2019, 02:29:35 pm »
I think they just called it a "concussion".

 

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I don't think there was any such critter as a "Traumatic Brain Injury" official diagnosis back then. I THINK the "concussion" diagnosis is the "ticket to ride" that brings in the TBI official decision.

6 of 1,a half dozen of another. A rude shock to the brain is a rude shock to the brain,and AFAIK,it has never been called a "good thing". Like you,my memory went all to hell,and I would sometimes get epic headaches that just can't be described. Nor should they. Some things really are too painful to describe and inflict on others. Looking back,I suspect those headaches were the reason I stayed drunk for several years. Ironically enough,I don't think I actually got drunk even once in VN. I MAY have gotten a buzz a time or two,but never drunk. I knew when to stop.

Besides,back then I only got occasional headaches. They didn't move in to live until a few years later.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2019, 06:46:06 pm »
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Ed,do you mind telling me how you found the thread?

I remembered you posting it the other day.  First I looked in Entertainment since it was about a TV show, then I checked Military News and saw it.

(BTW, I did watch it On Demand, I agree with your comments.)

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2019, 08:00:12 pm »
I remembered you posting it the other day.  First I looked in Entertainment since it was about a TV show, then I checked Military News and saw it.

(BTW, I did watch it On Demand, I agree with your comments.)

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2019, 09:34:48 pm »
@Smokin Joe

I don't think there was any such critter as a "Traumatic Brain Injury" official diagnosis back then. I THINK the "concussion" diagnosis is the "ticket to ride" that brings in the TBI official decision.

6 of 1,a half dozen of another. A rude shock to the brain is a rude shock to the brain,and AFAIK,it has never been called a "good thing". Like you,my memory went all to hell,and I would sometimes get epic headaches that just can't be described. Nor should they. Some things really are too painful to describe and inflict on others. Looking back,I suspect those headaches were the reason I stayed drunk for several years. Ironically enough,I don't think I actually got drunk even once in VN. I MAY have gotten a buzz a time or two,but never drunk. I knew when to stop.

Besides,back then I only got occasional headaches. They didn't move in to live until a few years later.
For a while there, I was very functional, moving up in the company fast, and doing well, but days off were often awash, and with the layoffs of the early 80s, some poor money management, there were a few years where odd jobs, beer, and the "kings deer" were my mainstay. It reached the point where I had to quit, some 30 years ago, I'd had enough and haven't had a drink since. No BS, I just don't, and seldom so much as an aspirin. I don't get headaches often (unless my neck needs a chiropractor working on it--instant relief from real killer pain), but when I do, it is almost always my neck that is the problem, not my head (with that side impact and a couple other incidents, no surprise there).  Sounds like we took different trains to the same station. Check out chiropractors, if there is a decent one (Palmer Method) around and your neck hasn't been operated on,   you might be able to get some relief from the headaches. Ask around first and find out what their patients say. Usually, they can fix you up in a couple of visits, not some ongoing thing. I swear by them for getting rid of sciatia resulting from a couple different injuries I got in the patch. MDs just wanted to give me pills....The chiropractor fixed the problem.
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Re: Traumatic Brain Injury
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2019, 10:26:10 pm »
Check out chiropractors, if there is a decent one (Palmer Method) around and your neck hasn't been operated on,   you might be able to get some relief from the headaches. Ask around first and find out what their patients say. Usually, they can fix you up in a couple of visits, not some ongoing thing. I swear by them for getting rid of sciatia resulting from a couple different injuries I got in the patch. MDs just wanted to give me pills....The chiropractor fixed the problem.

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No luck there. The closest one is a 50 mile round trip,and he is a hack.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2019, 10:36:35 pm »
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Thanks!

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2019, 07:15:39 am »
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No luck there. The closest one is a 50 mile round trip,and he is a hack.
Rats. My ex had serious migraines, real 'hide me in a dark room, and I'll kill you if you make a sound" headaches no pills would touch, and went to my favorite guy in Williston, ND and one pop (actually a few as he aligned her cervical vertebrae), no more headache. I had a similar experience. It's a shame you don't have a decent one near you so you could at least give it a try.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2019, 03:17:12 am »
Rats. My ex had serious migraines, real 'hide me in a dark room, and I'll kill you if you make a sound" headaches no pills would touch, and went to my favorite guy in Williston, ND and one pop (actually a few as he aligned her cervical vertebrae), no more headache. I had a similar experience. It's a shame you don't have a decent one near you so you could at least give it a try.
Almost forty years ago I began experiencing a lot of neck pain.  Usually it would go away, but this was so persistent I sought help.
People in the office said go to a chiropractor. I said no, I'm going to an MD, no phony neck manipulators for me.
The MDs were useless. One neurologist, who was later fired by the hospital for coming in drunk, told me after a cursory exam that I probably had arthritis  and needed a neck operation....which would be very risky.
Feeling pretty glum I finally took my co-workers' advice and saw a chiropractor.
After one visit, bad neck pain completely gone.
For many things you need an MD, but there's a place for chiropractors.