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N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« on: April 25, 2019, 01:51:55 am »
Reason by Joe Setyon 4/24/2019

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, is renewing his push to strengthen the already-strict guns laws in the state by raising the fees required to buy a firearm by 2,000 percent or more.

New Jersey residents already have to jump through a lot of hoops to buy a gun, though Murphy's proposal would make the process considerably more expensive. As State Police Capt. Stephen Jones detailed to New Jersey 101.5 in 2016, it starts at the police department, where would-be gun owners must apply for a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card. It takes about a month or more for the police to run a background check on someone's criminal and mental health history. (This check is in addition to the one required by federal law at the point of sale for people looking to purchase a firearm from a licensed dealer.) The New Jersey ID card itself currently costs $5, but Murphy wants to raise the price to $100.

Potential handgun buyers must go through an additional, separate process to obtain a handgun permit, which currently costs just $2. Under Murphy's proposal, it would cost $50.

And what happens if you want to carry that handgun around? Well, good luck. It's largely illegal to open carry a handgun (though not a legally owned rifle or shotgun). Carrying a concealed handgun is permitted, but New Jersey is a "may issue" state, meaning you have to prove that you have a good reason to carry. It costs $20 to obtain a concealed carry permit. If Murphy gets his way, that will rise to $400.

Right now, a New Jersey resident looking to buy a handgun for concealed carry purposes is looking at $27 (at least) in state fees. That would go up to $550 under Murphy's proposal, an increase of more than 2,000 percent. His proposed 2020 state budget also calls for a 2.5 percent excise tax on gun sales, as well as a 10 percent ammunition tax, NJ.com reported last month.

"There's no war on responsible gun owners," the governor claimed to The New York Times recently. "We can support the efforts of the attorney general, state troopers, county and local law enforcement, to do the stuff we need to do: track crime, track gun violence, combat trafficking of illegal guns."

Murphy specifically cited the $10 cost to obtain a dog license in Jersey City, comparing it to the $2 cost of a handgun purchase permit. "That is backwards and it must change and it will change," Murphy said at a Rutgers University event on Tuesday.

More: https://reason.com/2019/04/24/n-j-gov-phil-murphy-wants-to-raise-gun-permit-fees-by-2000-percent/
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 01:58:01 am »
Clearly an attempt to disenfranchise minorities.  The left has told us over and over that they can't get ID.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 11:57:10 am »
...shall not be infringed.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 12:47:50 pm »
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 01:58:03 pm »
Typical Dim elitism. They make sure none of the laws they pass have an effect on them because they can afford to "buy the ticket".

If the "little people" in and near the hood have to suffer and die because THEY can't afford to buy the ticket so they can have a gun to protect themselves,well,it's just a case of "survival of the fittest",right?
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 03:29:07 pm »
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 03:45:38 pm »
Excessive licensing and registration fees that act as barriers to the lawful exercise of a Constitutionally-protected right have already been found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

Such infringements have not the slightest impact on criminal behavior, but that is not their object, despite all claims to the contrary. The real object is physical control over and submission of the law-abiding to the state.  A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject. 
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2019, 04:02:15 pm »
Wrong tack.  He needs to pass the latest scheme floated by the leftist gun-grabbers:  Mandatory insurance to own a firearm.  We'll get the evil weapons away from the poor folk lickety-split.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2019, 10:17:28 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2019, 04:02:15 pm
Wrong tack.  He needs to pass the latest scheme floated by the leftist gun-grabbers:  Mandatory insurance to own a firearm.  We'll get the evil weapons away from the poor folk lickety-split.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2019, 11:55:33 pm »
Quote from: verga on April 25, 2019, 10:17:28 pm
https://www.uslawshield.com/ $240/ year. Some of the smartest money I ever spent.

It won't be $240 if it gets mandated by gun grabbers.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2019, 11:30:36 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2019, 11:55:33 pm
It won't be $240 if it gets mandated by gun grabbers.
You are probably/ sadly correct.
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Re: N.J. Gov. Phil Murphy Wants To Raise Gun Permit Fees by 2,000 Percent
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2019, 12:37:11 pm »
Quote from: verga on April 25, 2019, 10:17:28 pm
https://www.uslawshield.com/ $240/ year. Some of the smartest money I ever spent.

That is protection for a lawsuit.  Not insurance for damages caused by your gun, including death by a thief that took your gun.  That is what they want.  Your is only covering legal fees.
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