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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2019, 05:34:22 pm »
It's good for urban areas, not so much in the fly-over country.


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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2019, 05:46:27 pm »
Silly you...that's why AOC's Green Deal is so perfect.  No trains!  No worries.

No trains?  That's not what I read. 

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/8/18215774/green-new-deal-high-speed-train-air-travel

As for getting across continents... I figured that part out.  The elitist leftists will be the only ones that will be allowed to fly jets from one continent to another.   The rest of us, the peons, will be restricted from such travel.... even if we could afford it, which we wouldn't be able to... once the idiot left gets done "fundamentally transforming" Americaduh.  It's the leftist totalitarian way, after all.





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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2019, 05:54:27 pm »
It's good for urban areas, not so much in the fly-over country.

So?  You get your roads fixed, I get my train fixed.   
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2019, 06:09:30 pm »
Every person (like me) who takes the train to work means one less car on the road.    Less wear and tear on roads,  less aggravation for motorists stuck in jams.

Sure, but does your cost of train ticket contribute to fund that pays for trains?

Real question, I don't know the answer.  What it the gasoline tax equivalent?
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2019, 06:14:52 pm »
So?  You get your roads fixed, I get my train fixed.

We didn't have Federal funds last time and I assume a new package won't this time either.  Besides,  we use our own funds because there are too many strings attached to Federal funds.

I do object to having those funds spent on chh choos and trike trails.
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2019, 07:14:06 pm »
No trains?  That's not what I read. 

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/8/18215774/green-new-deal-high-speed-train-air-travel

As for getting across continents... I figured that part out.  The elitist leftists will be the only ones that will be allowed to fly jets from one continent to another.   The rest of us, the peons, will be restricted from such travel.... even if we could afford it, which we wouldn't be able to... once the idiot left gets done "fundamentally transforming" Americaduh.  It's the leftist totalitarian way, after all.


It’ll only be 90 minutes, from New York to Paris, undersea by rail.


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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2019, 07:14:44 pm »

It’ll only be 90 minutes, from New York to Paris, undersea by rail.


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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2019, 08:49:22 pm »
Sure, but does your cost of train ticket contribute to fund that pays for trains?

Real question, I don't know the answer.  What it the gasoline tax equivalent?
Real question is how much of his train ride is subsidized by the rest of us, because there is no way the price of the tickets covers the real cost.

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2019, 11:52:55 pm »
Sure, but does your cost of train ticket contribute to fund that pays for trains?

Real question, I don't know the answer.  What it the gasoline tax equivalent?
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Well I sure as heck don't know the answer either, but more and more electric cars probably means less gas tax.

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2019, 12:25:33 am »
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Well I sure as heck don't know the answer either, but more and more electric cars probably means less gas tax.

Which will be made up by the mileage tax some states are thinking of imposing to make up for the lost gas tax revenue.
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2019, 12:56:40 am »
Which will be made up by the mileage tax some states are thinking of imposing to make up for the lost gas tax revenue.
Taxes, on top of taxes, on top of taxes.

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2019, 01:22:55 am »
Taxes, on top of taxes, on top of taxes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/us/politics/trump-budget.html

https://twitter.com/NationalDebt/status/1121508453732749318



Impressive links.  Do you have anything responsive to my point that electric car owners won't get the break on gas taxes?
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2019, 02:23:21 am »
Impressive links.  Do you have anything responsive to my point that electric car owners won't get the break on gas taxes?
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2019, 02:29:00 am »
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I didn't know we were arguing.
 
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2019, 02:55:05 am »
I know you, you would!  If I ever made one.
It was a good point.  I interpreted it as "if people have money, government will find a way to take it," and that is true.

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2019, 02:59:25 am »
If I am not mistaken, that $800B has been permanently in their fake "non Budget" spending bills ever since.

I heard that Pelosi was thinking about a $2 Trillion dollar plan as an opener.

You're not mistaken, though it was $700B.
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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2019, 03:34:50 am »
You're not mistaken, though it was $700B.

There you go...  what's $100 billion difference per year, every year amongst friends?  Especially when everyone is having fun!

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2019, 09:04:38 am »
My avatar shows the national debt in stacks of $100 bills.  If you look very closely under the crane you can see the Statue of Liberty.

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Re: Pelosi says she will talk infrastructure with Trump next week
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2019, 11:06:19 am »
Before anybody passes out from the vapors, y’all know Donald Trump was a builder, right? He worked for a living, unlike most presidents who went to Harvard law and spent their careers in politics. He knows exactly how much construction costs are—the real costs, private sector costs—and they are not the same as bloated government contractor costs.

If bridges and roads are aging out (and they are) Trump’s background and his experience negotiating construction deals should result in some cost savings. He knows how inflated construction contracts are in the states, especially as compared to other countries where governments pay actual costs.

So whatever amount of infrastructure spending is budgeted, I expect at minimum we get our monies worth from this president.