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Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?

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Offline corbe

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Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« on: April 18, 2019, 04:38:24 pm »
Did Muslims Start Notre Dame Fire?

by Rev. Austin Miles | Apr 17, 2019


Why has no other writer asked this question? Simply because most are afraid to. When someone tried to bring up this subject with Shepherd Smith, the gay news anchor got in the way and would not allow the question to be pursued. That surprised me. He of all people should have welcomed the discussion since Muslims not only hate gays, but believe they are all condemned and throw them off the roofs of buildings feeling that they should all die. This is part of their culture.

This writer WILL pursue the Notre Dame fire. First of all, how many know that the week preceding the Notre Dame fire, 12 French churches had been torched? That news was smothered. This was all possibly planned,  building up to the grand finale to show Islamic superiority by staging an event as earth shattering as 9-11 which brought them the notoriety they coveted as well as causing widespread fear.

Now let us analyze the time frame. This week is the holiest week for Christians along with the week before leading up to it. This would be the perfect time for Muslims to destroy the largest, most prestigious beautiful Christian church in the world in a high profile action which would demonstrate Islamic power, just like they did on  9-11, for the purpose of murdering and bullying all Americans.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 05:51:59 pm »
Not enough information yet.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 06:30:39 pm »
Certainly there is motive and opportunity, but I'll wait till the investigation is further along.  My hunch is more than likely they did.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2019, 06:49:56 pm »
Patience produces wisdom.
While waiting, the Prefecture in Paris reported today
that an initial investigation indicates that there was
short-circuiting in attic wiring. Add to that, heat levels
there reached 112F* due to Paris humidity under the
lead roof. So stay tuned. Now back to the arson mongers.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 06:55:29 pm »
The alarm system did not catch the fire burning behind a wall I understand. Something like this. As of now, I'm going with the official explanations, No.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 07:03:12 pm »
If they did, we will never know about it. Almost all of Europe goes to fantastic lengths to cover up Islamic rape, murder, pedophilia, and riots. They simply don't report it in the press, and they do not record it in government crime statistics.

Like America only worse, they believe that if they ignore Islamic depravity that somehow then it does not exist.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 07:15:00 pm »
Well it sure wasn't Mrs. O'Leary's cow.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2019, 07:16:17 pm »
Nah.... it's just a (another) coinkydence.

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/03/20/twelve-french-churches-attacked-vandalized-in-one-week/

Pay no attention to the logic, the facts, the reality and the effing obvious, IOW.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2019, 10:17:58 pm »
No telling who is was if anyone. But certainly suspicious that flames grew fast almost within minutes and almost three hours after workers left the job and almost an hour after the place closed.  Conjecture would say had to be some kind of accelerant tied to a delay fuse. 800 year old timbers don’t burn easily. Wood roofing on the other hand, would.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2019, 01:13:30 am »
Waiting for the investigation. Hope the French are honest about they find.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 02:11:48 am »
No.  It was roofers.  First the library at Kansas State University, now Notre Dame de Paris.   Watch out for roofers, there's not telling how many major public buildings they'd take down before they're brought under control.

If it were Muslims, they'd have claimed responsibility by now.  There's no point in attacking an infidel site if you don't strike terror into the infidel.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 05:00:39 pm »
Well it sure wasn't Mrs. O'Leary's cow.

If it was a French cow, it would be a vache :)

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2019, 06:23:48 pm »
No.  It was roofers.  First the library at Kansas State University, now Notre Dame de Paris.   Watch out for roofers, there's not telling how many major public buildings they'd take down before they're brought under control.

If it were Muslims, they'd have claimed responsibility by now.  There's no point in attacking an infidel site if you don't strike terror into the infidel.

That’s a good point.  If it turned out to be a Muslim, it wouldn’t surprise me.  But we just don’t know yet.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2019, 06:40:35 pm »
No.  It was roofers.  First the library at Kansas State University, now Notre Dame de Paris.   Watch out for roofers, there's not telling how many major public buildings they'd take down before they're brought under control.

If it were Muslims, they'd have claimed responsibility by now.  There's no point in attacking an infidel site if you don't strike terror into the infidel.

It would be interesting to know whether responsibility was claimed following any of the other 850+ churches that have been torched/desecrated in France over the past year or two.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2019, 10:40:48 pm »
I did not know about the 12 churches in the week prior.  That said, there is not a doubt in my mind that the mussies set this fire.  I think it is safe to assume that a large contingent of workers on the renovation are mussies, so I am certain they had access.

I have said for a long time to friends that France would become the next Syria, where the mussies begin killing Christians in earnest and destroy every building and artifact that is not islamic.  The religion of peace is the single greatest threat to western civilization, with nothing remotely approaching the damage they will unearth on civilization.

The western world has opened Pandoras Box and allowed the mussies in thinking they are civilized, and nothing is further from the truth.

History tells what the future holds.  About every two hundred years or so the mussies rise up and start what they know best, a killing spree that is unwaranted, killing innocent people in their path.  And each time, they are knocked down by a more violent force.

I have become a Halseyite.  Admiral William Halsey in a speech in 1943 addressed an audience in San Francisco, and there he said, 'the only good Jap, is a Jap that has been dead for six months or more.  In a country like Japan, where the civilian population support the military as they do, the only good Jap civilian, is a Jap civilian that has been dead for six months or more.'

Until we can tell the good from the bad, they are all enemies of civilization, and I believe that his sentiments for Japs during WWII applies to mussies today.  They are without question the enemy of civilized man.  The next great war will be fought with them, and it will be bio weapons, and billions will die.  I anticipate in the 2040s, and the death toll will make WWII look tame by comparison.  And when it happens, they will be dealt with harshly.

FINALLY, ANYONE BELIEVING THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT WILL REPORT THE TRUTH ABOUT NOTRE DAME AND THE FIRE'S CAUSE IS A FOOL.  WILL NOT HAPPEN.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2019, 11:35:45 am »
While I am waiting for the official investigation, I keep hearing stuff about a short circuit in the wiring.

Just one problem. The folks at Notre Dame were so concerned about the possibility of the roof timbers and materials, all incredibly well seasoned wood, catching fire, they didn't allow any wiring in the roof part of the cathedral, known as 'the forrest'.

If they didn't allow electrical wiring up there, how did they have a short circuit?

Which begs the question: would investigators under the Macron government be instructed to not disclose signs of arson in fear of a serious backlash against likely perpetrators, en masse? The 'culture war' in France has gone hot, and all that remains is the acknowledgement that it is happening.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2019, 01:31:11 pm »
If they did, we will never know about it. Almost all of Europe goes to fantastic lengths to cover up Islamic rape, murder, pedophilia, and riots. They simply don't report it in the press, and they do not record it in government crime statistics.

Like America only worse, they believe that if they ignore Islamic depravity that somehow then it does not exist.

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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2019, 01:43:11 pm »
Whether it was Muslims I don't know, but it sure doesn't look like the fire started by accident.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2019, 02:02:36 pm »
Whether it was Muslims I don't know, but it sure doesn't look like the fire started by accident.

Yes, muslims are not the only actively anti-Christian force in France.

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2019, 12:46:20 pm »
...The folks at Notre Dame were so concerned about the possibility of the roof timbers and materials, all incredibly well seasoned wood, catching fire, they didn't allow any wiring in the roof part of the cathedral, known as 'the forrest'.

If they didn't allow electrical wiring up there, how did they have a short circuit? ....

I keep seeing reports claiming this short-circuit event.  Just silly when that the wiring did not exist.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2019, 12:56:32 pm »
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2019, 01:48:40 pm »
Who needs wood to start a fire?

Theory:  The areas high above the cathedral had years and years of dust. Much easier to catch fire either deliberately or via spontaneous combustion. Sunlight through cracks and with the high humidity and even moisture drops from leaks in the roof could easier catch the dust on fire, hence an accelerant in and of itself.
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2019, 02:06:20 pm »
Who needs wood to start a fire?

Theory:  The areas high above the cathedral had years and years of dust. Much easier to catch fire either deliberately or via spontaneous combustion. Sunlight through cracks and with the high humidity and even moisture drops from leaks in the roof could easier catch the dust on fire, hence an accelerant in and of itself.

You think that moisture causes fires?
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Re: Do you think Muslims Started Notre Dame Fire?
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2019, 02:08:10 pm »
I keep seeing reports claiming this short-circuit event.  Just silly when that the wiring did not exist.
Wiring DID exist.  They had to have generators/wires/cords to do the renovation work.

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2019, 02:09:37 pm »
You think that moisture causes fires?
Didn’t say that. But moisture will act like a magnifying glass.
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