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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2019, 07:00:03 pm »
CBS internet tv also said a lot of pilgrims come to the church for Holy Week
One of the TV people I'm listening to said this is one of the most visited weeks for the cathedral. Fortunately, the building had closed for the day to the public when the fire became apparent, and they're still saying no injuries occurred.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2019, 07:05:26 pm »
Anyone watching FOX News?
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Shepard Smith cuts off French Elected Official after he brings up  fact that Churches in France have been desecrated in past year.

“Of course you will hear the story of the politically correct which will tell you it is probably an accident" #NotreDame
Shep seems to know authoritatively that the fire is just an accident, nothing to see here.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2019, 07:12:07 pm »
I keep thinking about how St Paul's Cathedral was miraculously saved during The Blitz.

IMO this tragedy is a powerful symbol.

Be the culprits anarchists, Islamists, militant atheists... it doesn't matter. Western culture is too weak & corrupt to defend itself anymore.


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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2019, 07:19:17 pm »
850 bleep years old, twice the age of our country, gone in a few hours.

Of course, Trump the firefighting expert had to open his big yapper on the subject.

Sigh...

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2019, 07:22:24 pm »
There won't be much to save or from which to rebuild once the fire is out. Even though the walls of the cathedral are of stone, the heat of the blaze will weaken the mortar and the stones themselves. Even if they don't collapse, they may be unsuitable to "build on" afterwards.

An accident, or...???

I'm wondering if that may be possible to ascertain with even the best investigative techniques after a fire of that intensity. Perhaps a worker/eyewitness will come forth with information as to how the fire started?

If the muzzies know what's wise (they usually don't), they won't celebrate this even if it was only "an accident". Doing so may turn a good number of native French (who may to this point have been passive) against them, in ways that may not be peaceful.

Watching Notre Dame burn is like watching Western civilization go down in flames. A harbinger of things to come?

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2019, 07:23:39 pm »
How could they let this happen? I get that it's old but...

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2019, 07:25:22 pm »
Am I going to regret asking what he said?

Lol, something about needing flying water tankers like they use in fighting forest fires.

I don't even know if that would work or not, of course I'm not a firefighter so I don't open my big mouth on the subject.

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2019, 07:26:48 pm »
Heart-breaking. 
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Isn’t it?  😭 As bad as the photos are, watching in real time is worse.

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2019, 07:36:29 pm »
Anyone watching FOX News?Shep seems to know authoritatively that the fire is just an accident, nothing to see here.

Yes, I saw that. Shemp's behavior made me turn the channel to BBC News. Interestingly, just after I turned to it to them they did a phone interview with the author Ken Follett. He had some interesting details on how the fire would burn (he researched it for a novel, apparently) and then said, paraphrasing, that the apparent fast spread of the fire may indicate something of which we are not yet aware (that's how he put it.)  The BBC presenter ended the interview as soon as he suggested that.  :shrug:
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2019, 07:37:45 pm »
Anyone watching FOX News?Shep seems to know authoritatively that the fire is just an accident, nothing to see here.

Either France is obscenely negligent with a national landmark like this or yes, this was more than just an accident.

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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2019, 07:51:48 pm »
Yes, I saw that. Shemp's behavior made me turn the channel to BBC News. Interestingly, just after I turned to it to them they did a phone interview with the author Ken Follett. He had some interesting details on how the fire would burn (he researched it for a novel, apparently) and then said, paraphrasing, that the apparent fast spread of the fire may indicate something of which we are not yet aware (that's how he put it.)  The BBC presenter ended the interview as soon as he suggested that.  :shrug:
An architect interviewed on France 24 explained how the framework from medieval times is wood.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2019, 07:57:45 pm »
AP news alert on  phone “Firefighters may not be able to saveNotre Dame cathedral, French Ministry official says.


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Sky news has the same headline as of now
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 08:02:31 pm »
10 French churches have been attacked just in the past week
Over 50 French churches have been attacked since the beginning of the year
It's Holy week
The fire started just 5 minutes after the church closed for the day
The entire structure is engulfed in flames and there is no way that anyone can get inside to look around to assess the cause

...and yet...

the fire is being attributed to renovations.
 = = =

Either:
1. One or more of the renovators SAW the fire started. Perhaps a container of paint thinner tipped over and sparks started the fire and no one could find a fire extinguisher, or
2. The police and the complicit media are attempting to avoid a violent backlash until more details can be found


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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2019, 08:10:17 pm »
Roof collapses at Paris’ Notre Dame Cathedral as massive fire rages
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/paris-notre-dame-cathedral-on-fire-reuters.html

The roof of Paris’ Notre Dame Cathedral collapsed Monday as a massive fire ripped through the structure.

The city’s mayor and firefighters warned people to stay away from the area.

Firefighters may not be able to save the cathedral, according to a French Interior Ministry official....
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2019, 08:10:28 pm »
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Any word on the gargoyles?
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2019, 08:15:06 pm »
Any word on the gargoyles?
I heard on one of the live news feeds that at least some of the gargoyles had been replaced with downspouts because they were crumbling. Not sure.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2019, 08:27:25 pm »
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Any word on the gargoyles?

@Freya

Someone said the gargoyles were falling and referenced this article, but I don’t see it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna994646?__twitter_impression=true

Removed my post from the French journalist who said the art and artifacts were safe.  Looks like that isn’t true.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2019, 08:28:35 pm »
@Freya

Someone said the gargoyles were falling and referenced this article, but I don’t see it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna994646?__twitter_impression=true

Removed my post from the French journalist who said the art and artifacts were safe.  Looks like that isn’t true.

I really liked the gargoyles.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2019, 08:30:32 pm »
I understand the site is surrounded by water, so to speak.

Why the hell wasn't/isn't there any contingency plans to have appropriate fire-fighting pumps and equipment to protect this almost 900 year old Masterpiece?
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2019, 08:44:07 pm »
I really liked the gargoyles.

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They even had names.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2019, 08:47:14 pm »
I understand the site is surrounded by water, so to speak.

Why the hell wasn't/isn't there any contingency plans to have appropriate fire-fighting pumps and equipment to protect this almost 900 year old Masterpiece?

Yes that is what I don't get.  Now are they going to work on a solution for the other churches, or wait for them to be torched also? 

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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2019, 08:52:43 pm »
Yes that is what I don't get.  Now are they going to work on a solution for the other churches, or wait for them to be torched also?

Reading that FOXNEWS... Shep, Cavuto will not even entertain any discussion about Islamic terrorism.

FACT:  There has been a steady increase in attacks and desecration of churches and Christian cemeteries over the past few months over France.

FACT:  This is Easter Week.

Eff you, FOX NEWS!
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2019, 08:57:59 pm »
Some idiot on CNN was blathering about Catholic-Protestant tensions, islamophobia and right wing polemics - all in the same breath and all, supposedly,  having some bearing on this fire.
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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2019, 09:00:52 pm »
There are really no words . . .



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Re: Fire breaks out in historic Notre Dame cathedral in Paris- Breaking
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2019, 09:04:31 pm »
Some idiot on CNN was blathering about Catholic-Protestant tensions, islamophobia and right wing polemics - all in the same breath and all, supposedly,  having some bearing on this fire.

Have they blamed Trump yet?