The Top Ten Evilest People of All-Time

[jmyrlefuller]

Correctamundo.

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

Genesis 3:6

Nothing in that indicates that Adam was even present at the point of Eve's temptation. Maybe I'm perceiving this differently, but the way I always saw it:

1. The snake tempts Eve alone.
2. Eve, knowing full well what God had told her, took the fruit and ate.
3. She returns to Adam, gives him the fruit without telling him what it was, and he unknowingly ate.

Now, the huge gaps in the narrative lead me to think it's more of a euphemism for sex (after all, what body part represents a serpent that can transform into an arm holding an apple?), but if we're going to take this literally, the only sin on Adam was one of ignorance.

Also: nothing in the scripture up to this point indicates Adam being assigned lordship over Eve; she was created as a companion, not a subject. The lordship was Eve's punishment for deceiving Adam.

[Sanguine]

Nothing in that indicates that Adam was even present at the point of Eve's temptation. Maybe I'm perceiving this differently, but the way I always saw it:

1. The snake tempts Eve alone.
2. Eve, knowing full well what God had told her, took the fruit and ate.
3. She returns to Adam, gives him the fruit without telling him what it was, and he unknowingly ate.

Now, the huge gaps in the narrative lead me to think it's more of a euphemism for sex (after all, what body part represents a serpent that can transform into an arm holding an apple?), but if we're going to take this literally, the only sin on Adam was one of ignorance.

Also: nothing in the scripture up to this point indicates Adam being assigned lordship over Eve; she was created as a companion, not a subject. The lordship was Eve's punishment for deceiving Adam.

No, God did not tell Eve not to eat of the tree, and Adam appeared to know exactly what it was when Eve offered it to him.  This doesn't necessarily excuse Eve, but Adam was fully responsible for what he did. 

(Are we really arguing this?   )

[Cyber Liberty]

No, God did not tell Eve not to eat of the tree, and Adam appeared to know exactly what it was when Eve offered it to him.  This doesn't necessarily excuse Eve, but Adam was fully responsible for what he did. 

(Are we really arguing this?   )

Sometimes the horizontal bop can be really expensive.

[dfwgator]

Sometimes the horizontal bop can be really expensive.

Is that like the Unskinny Bop?

[Cyber Liberty]

Is that like the Unskinny Bop?

 

A friend of mine who worked at a Nevada bordello once told me the unskinny ones actually cost the most because they were in high demand.  Go figure.

[Hoodat]

No, God did not tell Eve not to eat of the tree, and Adam appeared to know exactly what it was when Eve offered it to him.  This doesn't necessarily excuse Eve, but Adam was fully responsible for what he did. 

(Are we really arguing this?   )

There is also the part of Eve embellishing what God said.  He never said not to touch the fruit.  Only not to eat it.  When Eve embellished God's words, it gave satan just enough wiggle room to tempt her.

And yes, Adam was right there with her when she ate the fruit.  Because eating the fruit immediately changed her.

She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.  Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked

This could only have happened if they ate it at the same time.

There is nothing wrong with arguing this considering that the Garden is one of the most important parts of the Bible.  It is the reason for Christ - to get us back to the Garden, to the relationship Adam/Eve had with the Father before the fall.

[bigheadfred]

There is also the part of Eve embellishing what God said.  He never said not to touch the fruit.  Only not to eat it.  When Eve embellished God's words, it gave satan just enough wiggle room to tempt her.

And yes, Adam was right there with her when she ate the fruit.  Because eating the fruit immediately changed her.

She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.  Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked

This could only have happened if they ate it at the same time.

There is nothing wrong with arguing this considering that the Garden is one of the most important parts of the Bible.  It is the reason for Christ - to get us back to the Garden, to the relationship Adam/Eve had with the Father before the fall.

Right. It was a setup. It was the reason mankind could be. It was the reason for Christ. It is the reason behind the unreason of the left. Comprehension of Genesis 6 is vital.

I've always said there is a better way.

It is so simple a millennial could do it.

Destroying millions...hahaha.

Perhaps the most evil people in the world are those who knowingly destroy their own souls.

[Smokin Joe]

Right. It was a setup. It was the reason mankind could be. It was the reason for Christ. It is the reason behind the unreason of the left. Comprehension of Genesis 6 is vital.

I've always said there is a better way.

It is so simple a millennial could do it.

Destroying millions...hahaha.

Perhaps the most evil people in the world are those who knowingly destroy their own souls.

I always thought it was the ones who relentlessly encouraged others to take the same predictable paths to self-destruction. Misery does love company.

[sneakypete]

Any list of The Most Evil...." that doesn't have Mohammed the goat-raping child molester at number 1 is a bogus list.

[sneakypete]

Eve wasn't off doing anything.  Adam was standing right there the whole time.  And as the spiritual head, it was his job to stop her, or at least corrected her when she embellished what God had said.

@Hoodat

Put the nickle in the right slot. It was Gods fault for making the rules,daring them to break them,and then punishing them for breaking rules he KNEW they would break.

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

Put the nickle in the right slot. It was Gods fault for making the rules,daring them to break them,and then punishing them for breaking rules he KNEW they would break.

God didn't punish them.  There were simply consequences to their actions, just as there are consequences to ours.  God is not a micromanager.  But yes, He knew.  It even says so in Chapter 2 verse 17.

I'm guessing it isn't the way you would have done it if you were God.  But the bottom line here is that God want's a family.  And in order to have one, He must give us free will - the opportunity to choose whether we want to be a part of that family.  Yes, He will allow us to make the wrong choices and suffer the consequences.  But that doesn't mean He no longer wants us in His family.  He does.  Always.  Eternally.