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If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
By Mark Ellis April 3, 2019
 
 

Unless the Mexican government takes immediate substantive action to address the crisis on the southern border, President Trump should follow through on his national emergency declaration and suspension of direct aid to three Central American countries by closing it.

The migrant caravans are coming because they think change is inevitable regarding U.S. immigration policy. Whether or not change is coming is debatable, given the malfeasance of our supposed sovereign government, so the time has come for a commander-in-chief to cut through the dross and do something.

The nation can no longer countenance the impasse created by uni-party Republicans and Mueller report-routed Democrats desperate not to give Trump more accomplishments going into 2020. If this duopoly keeps calling the shots, the escalating insanity on the border may

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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2019, 12:59:37 pm »
This is stupidity.   
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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2019, 02:53:26 pm »
Why is that @Jazzhead?

Because it is short-sighted.   Why ruin the economy and create the conditions for a Dem victory in 2020?   

Trump does this a lot.   He perversely doesn't seem to want to accept his own booming economy.  He's always creating artificial uncertainty and roiling markets with inconsistent (and in this case, patently stupid) pronouncements.    He should listen to the WSJ editorial page and let the economy soar.   
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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2019, 02:58:41 pm »
Because it is short-sighted.   Why ruin the economy and create the conditions for a Dem victory in 2020?   

Trump does this a lot.   He perversely doesn't seem to want to accept his own booming economy.  He's always creating artificial uncertainty and roiling markets with inconsistent (and in this case, patently stupid) pronouncements.    He should listen to the WSJ editorial page and let the economy soar.   

A) You don't know that it will "ruin the economy", B) stopping the costs of illegal immigration, crime and drugs crossing the border may more than cancel out the costs of shutting the border down, and C) NOT stopping the flow of illegal aliens, crime and drugs across the border will almost certainly lose the 2020 election.

BTW - good for you for answering a question about your response.
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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 03:16:44 pm »
Because it is short-sighted.   Why ruin the economy and create the conditions for a Dem victory in 2020?   

Trump does this a lot.   He perversely doesn't seem to want to accept his own booming economy.  He's always creating artificial uncertainty and roiling markets with inconsistent (and in this case, patently stupid) pronouncements.    He should listen to the WSJ editorial page and let the economy soar.   

Why won't you acknowledge the obvious - the left is using ALL illegal immigration as a political weapon, and the more we allow in the higher the probability the socialists will prevail politically and *poof* there goes the WSJ's 'soaring economy'.

Good grief man the evidence is all around you yet you carry on like a stuck-in-the-80's immigration pollyanna. Open your eyes.



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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2019, 03:23:29 pm »
A) You don't know that it will "ruin the economy", B) stopping the costs of illegal immigration, crime and drugs crossing the border may more than cancel out the costs of shutting the border down, and C) NOT stopping the flow of illegal aliens, crime and drugs across the border will almost certainly lose the 2020 election.

Ted Cruz is a smart man, far smarter than Trump.  He knows that closing cross-border trade will ruin the economy.   So many industries are dependent parts from Mexico,  or on exports to Mexico.   

Trump can't be serious.  If the economy tanks,  Trump is toast,  so he won't close the border.   He's playing to his immigration-obsessed base.   That's because he can't expand his base of support,  despite the best economy in years.     
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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2019, 03:36:33 pm »
Ted Cruz is a smart man, far smarter than Trump.  He knows that closing cross-border trade will ruin the economy.   So many industries are dependent parts from Mexico,  or on exports to Mexico.   

Trump can't be serious.  If the economy tanks,  Trump is toast,  so he won't close the border.   He's playing to his immigration-obsessed base.   That's because he can't expand his base of support,  despite the best economy in years.   

That's not really a response to my statement.  You avoided parts A, B and C.  Merely stating the obvious, that Cruz is smarter than Trump, doesn't answer my statement.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2019, 04:27:47 pm »
That's not really a response to my statement.  You avoided parts A, B and C.  Merely stating the obvious, that Cruz is smarter than Trump, doesn't answer my statement.

Well, it's the response you got.   As for me,  my statement is simply this - closing cross-border trade with Mexico just to placate the immigration-obsessed is the stupidest policy choice I can think of.   And while I may view Trump as a clown,  he can't possibly be that stupid.   
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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2019, 04:48:54 pm »
Well, it's the response you got.   As for me,  my statement is simply this - closing cross-border trade with Mexico just to placate the immigration-obsessed is the stupidest policy choice I can think of.   And while I may view Trump as a clown,  he can't possibly be that stupid.

Yes, I'm aware that it's the response I got.  Which is why I called you on it.   

You just repeat the same lame talking points without ever appearing to actually think about what you are regurgitating. 

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Re: If Mexico Won't Lift a Finger, President Trump Should Lower the Boom
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2019, 05:33:14 pm »
1. How many illegal low skill immigrants, does this booming economy need?

2. What is the breakeven number, balancing the costs and benefits?

3. The US needs computer programmers, yetCentral America is supplying stoop laborers, gardeners, and dishwashers.

4. The stoop laborer's family is below the poverty level, pays minimal taxes, consumes much in services, from medical, schools, police, prisons, etc.


Assuming our needs for stoop laborers are filled now, each"next" illegal comes at a very high price.


5. The idea that the US has a nral responsibulity to care for these unfortunate resdents of Latin American economies, is beyond ludicrous.


6. If they are fleeing gangs, don't we already know they set up the gangs here in the US, bringing their problems with them?


7. Drugs seem to be a fixture with these gang cultures. Don't we have soaring deaths, from Fentanyl? It is used to boost crappy Mexican heroin.

8. Since 1986 we have encouraged illegal immigration, not discouraged it.

9. The first step n problem solving, is to identify the problem correctly, and admitting it.

10. My opinion, is we need no additional low-unskilled workers, that cost more than they pay.

11. We should condition any aid/benefit to any nation, upon FULL cooperation in solving OUR problem, with their people coming here.


12. We need a variety of common sense barriers, disincentives, etc.

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