Cruz: 'Devastating' if Trump closes U.S.-Mexico border

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Cruz: 'Devastating' if Trump closes U.S.-Mexico border
By Jordain Carney - 04/03/19 06:43 PM EDT

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said on Wednesday that it would be "devastating" if President Trump closes the U.S.-Mexico border, joining a chorus of Republicans pushing back against the idea.

"Closing the border to legal commerce would be devastating to Texas. Millions of jobs, in Texas and across the country, depend upon trade with Mexico, and the federal government shouldn’t do anything to jeopardize those jobs," Cruz said in a statement.

He added that while the United States needs to "secure the border," Trump shouldn't punish individuals "who are legally crossing the border."

"The answer is not to punish Texas farmers and ranchers and manufacturers and small businesses. Closing legal points of entry would harm American commerce and legal transit between Mexico and the United States, and leave coyotes and human traffickers to roam free in the wilderness of our unsecured border," Cruz continued.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/437272-cruz-devastating-if-trump-closes-us-mexico-border

[corbe]

   W.O.K.E.

[Sanguine]

Something has to change, quickly and decisively.  If it takes semi-closing the border, then do it.

[libertybele]

Something has to change, quickly and decisively.  If it takes semi-closing the border, then do it.

I disagree with Ted. IF it takes closing the entire border, then do it! Yes, the U.S. people are going to suffer some near term hardships.  However, I'd rather deal with those hardships than deal with losing our country, which is exactly where we are headed.

We don't have time to wait for Congress (won't pass the House anyways) to change laws, nor do we have time to wait for the issue of the wall to go through the court system.  Certainly keep building on what we have, but building what is needed is going to take months if not years.

Trump FAILED to act when he had a full majority, and now we are dearly going to pay the price one way or another.  There just isn't any way around it.

[corbe]

   Being a Texas Resident also, @Sanguine I agree totally but with each months passing and more threats emerge I am convinced this Vital Issue has become merely a piece on a Political Chess Board, multidimensional, of course.
   When an EO or 10 could've solved this on Day 1 like he promised. 
   The easiest EO is the one that undoes a previous EO.

   More caravans and more bluster is what I expect leading up to the Election and I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

[Sanguine]

   Being a Texas Resident also, @Sanguine I agree totally but with each months passing and more threats emerge I am convinced this Vital Issue has become merely a piece on a Political Chess Board, multidimensional, of course.
   When an EO or 10 could've solved this on Day 1 like he promised. 
   The easiest EO is the one that undoes a previous EO.

   More caravans and more bluster is what I expect leading up to the Election and I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong, too, Corbe, but it's not looking good.

[Right_in_Virginia]

How the hell does this President do anything when he own caucus fractures over EVERYTHING.  If Cruz is saying "no" to closing the border, imagine what the RINO/NT brigade is telling him.   

[libertybele]

Something has to change, quickly and decisively.  If it takes semi-closing the border, then do it.

@Sanguine if the border is only partially shut down to allow for trade which I can see as perhaps not only a possibility but the ultimate goal here, then you will see the NAFTA superhighway created and the creation of a North American Union; Mexico, U.S. and Canada for trade. 

Yes, illegal immigration will be halted due to more jobs and money going in and out of Mexico and blanket amnesty for those already here.   Strictly my opinion and what I've been predicting since Trump started campaigning.  Trump and his cronies are going to make a ton of money.

Anyone recall hearing about the specifics of Trump's newly negotiated agreement between the U.S., Mexico and Canada?

[Fishrrman]

One more reason why Mr. Trump demonstrates that he is a superior president to anything Ted Cruz might have been...

[libertybele]

How the hell does this President do anything when he own caucus fractures over EVERYTHING.  If Cruz is saying "no" to closing the border, imagine what the RINO/NT brigade is telling him.   

Cruz really surprised me with this one.  However, Trump's in action from the very beginning on this issue and his continued hesitation makes me truly believe that he absolutely never intended to build a wall. His sole intent is an eventual North American Union; he and his family as well as his cronies are going to make an absolute bundle; all at the expense of our sovereignty. 

You ask, how the hell does this President do anything?? Since when has he ever let anyone really stop him??  He's always moved forward, except on this particular issue.  He has dragged his feet on this since day one.

[Sanguine]

One more reason why Mr. Trump demonstrates that he is a superior president to anything Ted Cruz might have been...

Hate to point this out, but Trump hasn't done anything yet.  Still waiting....

[corbe]

   Unlike your Guy @Right_in_Virginia Sen. Cruz knows this is all BS and I'll applaud him for this (Glad he got his balls out of the West Wing).
   Closing the Border is such BS, there have been many other viable alternatives with/without Congress that he has pizzed away in the 803 days he's had. 

    The Border has been there for 165 years. 

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine if the border is only partially shut down to allow for trade which I can see as perhaps not only a possibility but the ultimate goal here, then you will see the NAFTA superhighway created and the creation of a North American Union; Mexico, U.S. and Canada for trade. 

Yes, illegal immigration will be halted due to more jobs and money going in and out of Mexico and blanket amnesty for those already here.   Strictly my opinion and what I've been predicting since Trump started campaigning.  Trump and his cronies are going to make a ton of money.

Anyone recall hearing about the specifics of Trump's newly negotiated agreement between the U.S., Mexico and Canada?

Closing the border, of itself, will not stop the criminality, drug traffic and illegal invasion, but it will make Mexico respond.  Remember, much of that traffic doesn't go through legal crossings.

[libertybele]

One more reason why Mr. Trump demonstrates that he is a superior president to anything Ted Cruz might have been...

@Fishrrman not so sure.  I think Cruz would have acted long before now avoiding the massive invasion and the situation that we are now in.  I would really like to know though what Ted would propose that we do at this point?  If he doesn't see shutting down the border at this point, then what does he think we should do??

Trump superior??  I don't see a wall, he continues to hesitate to shut down the border and above all he absolutely did not act when he had a full majority and he waited until just before the new Congress was sworn in before acting.  Here we sit.  IMHO, he never had any intention of building a wall.

[libertybele]

Closing the border, of itself, will not stop the criminality, drug traffic and illegal invasion, but it will make Mexico respond.  Remember, much of that traffic doesn't go through legal crossings.

Shutting down the border, however, would it not, allow border patrol to focus on the other areas as needed??

[Right_in_Virginia]

   Unlike your Guy @Right_in_Virginia Sen. Cruz knows this is all BS and I'll applaud him for this (Glad he got his balls out of the West Wing).
   Closing the Border is such BS, there have been many other viable alternatives with/without Congress that he has pizzed away in the 803 days he's had. 

    The Border has been there for 165 years.

Thanks for the input @corbe   So, how are you enjoying working for the Beto campaign?  I assume with your help he'll be turning Texas blue.   

[Sanguine]

Shutting down the border, however, would it not, allow border patrol to focus on the other areas as needed??

@libertybele, I don't really think so.  This article explains the issue:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,356979.msg1950223.html#msg1950223

[libertybele]

   Being a Texas Resident also, @Sanguine I agree totally but with each months passing and more threats emerge I am convinced this Vital Issue has become merely a piece on a Political Chess Board, multidimensional, of course.
   When an EO or 10 could've solved this on Day 1 like he promised. 
   The easiest EO is the one that undoes a previous EO.

   More caravans and more bluster is what I expect leading up to the Election and I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I think you are absolutely correct ... Trump's hesitation and the massive invasion have been well orchestrated.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Shutting down the border, however, would it not, allow border patrol to focus on the other areas as needed??

Yes.  That's the basis of the proposal.  Getting Mexico's undivided attention is reason number two.

I'd like closing the border to include EVERYTHING, including all money transfers out of the US.

[skeeter]

Perhaps closing the border would result in an economic catastrophe.

But I prefer that to a humanitarian one. Which is what the flood of illegals represent.

Close the border of that will help solve this problem.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I think you are absolutely correct ... Trump's hesitation and the massive invasion have been well orchestrated.   

I don't agree with this ... or at least not on the President's part.  The orchestration is on the liberal/socialist side.

I can't imagine the utter frustration the President must be feeling.  Coming from a position of authority in the private sector the inaction in Congress and the interference by the judiciary must be driving him straight up a wall.

[corbe]

@Fishrrman not so sure.  I think Cruz would have acted long before now avoiding the massive invasion and the situation that we are now in.  I would really like to know though what Ted would propose that we do at this point?  If he doesn't see shutting down the border at this point, then what does he think we should do??

Trump superior??  I don't see a wall, he continues to hesitate to shut down the border and above all he absolutely did not act when he had a full majority and he waited until just before the new Congress was sworn in before acting.  Here we sit.  IMHO, he never had any intention of building a wall.

  There's no doubt in my mind @libertybele  that the same machine that is against President Trump would have been against a President Cruz minus the Russian Collusion and screwing porno stars, they would have found something else, with that being said, at least Cruz knew the workings of the Congress and would have got more done in his first two years. /JS

   Even George 'fn' Pataki could have beaten hellary.

[libertybele]

Thanks for the input @corbe   So, how are you enjoying working for the Beto campaign?  I assume with your help he'll be turning Texas blue.   

Oh, come on @Right_in_Virginia, that's a low blow!  Trump is DOING NOTHING and I believe this has been his intent from the very beginning.  He keeps threatening, yet does nothing.  He promised a wall, yet waited till the GOP lost the House majority to do anything.  WHY?  You can't blame all of this on Congress.  At some point in time, you need to place some blame on the President himself.  He declared a national emergency  ... what the hell  is he doing????  NOTHING.

The only thing that is going to get someone like BETO or Julian Castro elected is the new massive liberal voting base that is forming due to the massive influx of illegals at the border that will eventually be able to vote  -- all courtesy of DJT.

Remember also he signed a bill that allowed states to opt out of the border wall.  That was his doing.  He signed the bill. 

[libertybele]

  There's no doubt in my mind @libertybele  that the same machine that is against President Trump would have been against a President Cruz minus the Russian Collusion and screwing porno stars, they would have found something else, with that being said, at least Cruz knew the workings of the Congress and would have got more done in his first two years. /JS

   Even George 'fn' Pataki could have beaten hellary.

   Further, IF DJT and others had listened to Cruz, we may be looking at quite a different picture now at the border. /JS

Cruz, however, said he also warned his colleagues that the GOP would likely lose one of the chambers and therefore advocated to take up border funding by using budget reconciliation, which allows expedited passage of certain budgetary legislation and is "immune from filibuster."

"If they had taken that advice, if we had had that fight, and you had seen Elizabeth Warren screaming on the Senate floor to stop it, Bernie Sanders pulling what little hair he has out of his head," Cruz said.

"In September, October, and it culminated with Republicans standing together funding and building the wall," he said. "I don't think we would have lost the House of Representatives."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/01/ted-cruz-cpac-border-funding-1197452

[corbe]

Thanks for the input @corbe   So, how are you enjoying working for the Beto campaign?  I assume with your help he'll be turning Texas blue.   

   Texas will survive you Trumpers @Right_in_Virginia
   I'm not so sure about your Virginia (the cradle of this great experiment), though.