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Trump threatens to close border 'next week' if Mexico doesn't 'immediately stop' flood of illegal immigrants

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

President Trump on Friday threatened to close the Southern Border next week if Mexico does not “immediately stop” the record-breaking surge of illegal immigrants flooding into the United States.

Trump's warning comes as Customs and Border Protection officials say March is on pace to exceed 100,000 border apprehensions -- the highest monthly total in a decade. According to CBP, this week alone, agents have more than 12,000 migrants in custody.,

“The DEMOCRATS have given us the weakest immigration laws anywhere in the World. Mexico has the strongest, & they make more than $100 Billion a year on the U.S.,” Trump tweeted. “Therefore, CONGRESS MUST CHANGE OUR WEAK IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW, & Mexico must stop illegals from entering the U.S. through their country and our Southern Border.”

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Why does he have to make threats?  He just needs to put a call into Orador and tell him he's shutting down the border Monday and those trying to cross will be fired upon as they will be considered an enemy of the U.S.  Tell him he needs to relay the information and control the situation or any blood shed will be on his hands! 
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Why does he have to make threats?  He just needs to put a call into Orador and tell him he's shutting down the border Monday and those trying to cross will be fired upon as they will be considered an enemy of the U.S.  Tell him he needs to relay the information and control the situation or any blood shed will be on his hands!

How about the wall, and NOT shoot them dead?

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He has made this threat a dozen times before, he never follows through even though Mexico never gives in and things get worse.

The reality is a complete shutdown would hurt us more than Mexico and won't stop the illegal crossings. Over a million people each day cross the border legally both ways, to conduct business and personal reasons- again, that's legal movement. It is the business border in the world.

Shutting down the border won't stop the criminals, it will only hurt those who legally go back and forth. It is akin to gun control. Only those law abiding follow up with he law.

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How about the wall, and NOT shoot them dead?

It is too late for a wall to deal with the current invasion.  Even if every elected official in the federal government (and every man, woman, and child in the US!) supported building a wall, and the effort was Fully funded, it would be years before there was sufficient wall coverage.

This ongoing invasion requires extraordinary measures.

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How about the wall, and NOT shoot them dead?

A complete wall is years and lost of courtroom drama and politics away. Please let me be clear; the last thing that I would like to see is people being shot. We are now at a point where we have to make a decision,  and it took me awhile to come to grips with this, our country is being invaded and our citizens are becoming victims of rape, burglary, theft, arson, sex slavery, etc. Do we continue to allow this invasion and attack on our country??  Do we want to become another Germany?  Children being brought over are victims as well and they are being brought over to ensure that their relatives have an entry way. All at a cost (one way or another) to the taxpayer and an economy that cannot sustain the rapid influx.

Our border patrol is overwhelmed and we don't know how many terrorists, MS-13 gang members, murderers, and rapists are coming across.  The myth that they are just coming here for a better life is b.s.  They are breaking our laws from the start .... time to STOP THE INVASION!!
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It is too late for a wall to deal with the current invasion.  Even if every elected official in the federal government (and every man, woman, and child in the US!) supported building a wall, and the effort was Fully funded, it would be years before there was sufficient wall coverage.

This ongoing invasion requires extraordinary measures.

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You're not.
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Why does he have to make threats?  He just needs to put a call into Orador and tell him he's shutting down the border Monday and those trying to cross will be fired upon as they will be considered an enemy of the U.S.  Tell him he needs to relay the information and control the situation or any blood shed will be on his hands!

I think Trump should do that.   :thumbsup:
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Why does he have to make threats?  He just needs to put a call into Orador and tell him he's shutting down the border Monday and those trying to cross will be fired upon as they will be considered an enemy of the U.S.  Tell him he needs to relay the information and control the situation or any blood shed will be on his hands!

Closing the border also shuts down trade @libertybele and that hurts both sides of the border so the President has to weigh this decision carefully.

And we're not going to start a shooting people.  Just accept this.
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I think Trump should do that.   :thumbsup:

If @Once-Ler agrees with you @libertybele  I advise you to run --- not walk --- away from your suggestion.   happy77



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He has made this threat a dozen times before

We've now reached critical mass.
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If @Once-Ler agrees with you @libertybele  I advise you to run --- not walk --- away from the suggestion.   happy77
I just want to see the headlines "Trump orders border massacre."
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We've now reached critical mass.
You're talking about frenzied border patriots?  I agree.
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Let me say first that I'm a Trump supporter.

But I'm tired of talk like this.
That is to say, threats that aren't backed up by action.

Don't talk, Mr. Trump.
JUST DO IT.

Send the troops (tens of thousands, whatever you can scrape together) down there en masse.

CLOSE the border with the statement that it will REMAIN closed (including all commercial and private traffic, including trucks and trains) until a better system of control can be put into place.

ORDER the Army to begin building "a barrier" as an aid to enforcement.

But just STOP TALKING and START DOING SOMETHING.

We can't survive this much longer.

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I just want to see the headlines "Trump orders border massacre."

And, another dream of yours goes kapute.   

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And, another dream of yours goes kapute.

I'm ok if the massacre doesn't happen too.  It shouldn't.  There should be a way to discourage illegals without the bad publicity of killing them.
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Closing the border also shuts down trade @libertybele and that hurts both sides of the border so the President has to weigh this decision carefully.

And we're not going to start a shooting people.  Just accept this.

Yes @Right_in_Virginia I get that it shuts down trade, but, what choice really does the President have right now??  Renegotiate NAFTA again???  That resolves nothing.  Granted we are huge importers of fruits and veggies, but quite frankly, I have refused for years to purchase produce from Mexico.  I wait for seasonal fruits and vegetables that are grown here and eat accordingly. Yes, we import other items, but I think we will fare better than Mexico.  Again, what other choice does Trump have??  Either he shuts down the border or he continues to allow the invasion. It's that cut and dry. 

As for shooting at people ... come on ... as I stated, I'm not advocating shooting at people .... but I am advocating that we allow our military to protect our borders.  Those coming across our border should be seen as an enemy.  So ... if our military is fired upon, should they retreat?

Gee ... imagine ... the U.S. being taken over by Mexico, Guatemala and Columbia and who ever is knocking on our Southern border...is that what you are willing to accept??  Really??
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I'm ok if the massacre doesn't happen too.  It shouldn't.  There should be a way to discourage illegals without the bad publicity of killing them.

There is.  End all benefits and birthright citizenship.  Wouldn't take long and there is no shooting involved.  But politicians like the invasion.
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That we need workers and it isn't about cheap labor.  If it wasn't about cheap labor none of those migrants would need the social bennefits they are provided.  They would be able to fully support their own families.

It is about cheap labor that draws wages down for American families.  Its corporate welfare that American taxpayers are shouldered with.  Americans raising migrant families.

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So... what's the solution?   

Not "da wall".  Even if it can be built, it won't be built in time to stop the ongoing invasion and impending collapse.  What would be the legal repercussions of an Executive Order by Trump that changes our current stupid immigration laws?  What about another Emergency Declaration stopping catch & release, and ending all asylum claims until the flood across our southern border has been stopped? 

Is there even any viable solution ... or are we watching the end of America as we knew it (and as planned by America's enemies within...).

Time for unity in America! (better late than never)


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There is.  End all benefits and birthright citizenship.  Wouldn't take long and there is no shooting involved.  But politicians like the invasion.

And just how would you get that passed through the DemocRat-controlled House?
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So... what's the solution?   

Not "da wall".  Even if it can be built, it won't be built in time to stop the ongoing invasion and impending collapse.  What would be the legal repercussions of an Executive Order by Trump that changes our current stupid immigration laws?  What about another Emergency Declaration stopping catch & release, and ending all asylum claims until the flood across our southern border has been stopped? 

Is there even any viable solution ... or are we watching the end of America as we knew it (and as planned by America's enemies within...).


You are correct, not time for the wall -- that shipped sailed awhile ago.  Stopping all asylum claims would pretty much demand shutting down the border.

Yes, we could very well be watching the end of America.

America goes and so goes the rest of the free world.
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There is.  End all benefits and birthright citizenship.  Wouldn't take long and there is no shooting involved.  But politicians like the invasion.
OK.  Lets get it passed...Oh dammit looks like the rats own the House.  Shoulda thought of that last year or the year before. 
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OK.  Lets get it passed...Oh dammit looks like the rats own the House.  Shoulda thought of that last year or the year before.
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Only one law or policy, whichever it is called, would stop this.  Now, Once, Cyber, mystery, read this and think which you three do well:

1.  If our border with Mexico is on both solid ground between the two countries, a wall built right will stop them.

2.  The problem is only with the Rio Grand River being the border between the two countries.  Our wall is built on our land a distance from the river.  When illegals come over the river, and step on land, it is our land and their rights are then in effect.  Our border agents must go behind our wall and take in the people now on our land.  That policy/law must be changed so we don't have to take them in when they set foot on our land out of the water.  That is the fix we need.  Does Trump know this?  I didn't know that law/policy until two border agents explained it a day or so ago.  Someone needs to tell Trump what the problem is.

3.  Those who go legally through a port of entry are processed and if those sanctuary laws for entry have to be changed to a MORE RIGID reason for getting in, then change them.  Both reason 2 and 3 must be changed by congress.  This needed to be done when we had both houses.
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Only one law or policy, whichever it is called, would stop this.  Now, Once, Cyber, mystery, read this and think which you three do well:

1.  If our border with Mexico is on both solid ground between the two countries, a wall built right will stop them.

2.  The problem is only with the Rio Grand River being the border between the two countries.  Our wall is built on our land a distance from the river.  When illegals come over the river, and step on land, it is our land and their rights are then in effect.  Our border agents must go behind our wall and take in the people now on our land.  That policy/law must be changed so we don't have to take them in when they set foot on our land out of the water.  That is the fix we need.  Does Trump know this?  I didn't know that law/policy until two border agents explained it a day or so ago.  Someone needs to tell Trump what the problem is.

My border is solid ground, so I'll take a wall.

I think the wall, in whatever configuration, will be built in the desert southwest first.
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