Author Topic: Should Puerto Rico be granted Statehood? (Read 4256 times)

corbe · « **on:** March 28, 2019, 02:49:47 pm »

Lawmakers to introduce bill granting Puerto Rico statehood

Camilo Montoya-Galvez

45 mins ago

Washington â€” A bipartisan group of lawmakers will introduce legislation Thursday that would admit Puerto Rico into the union as the 51st state without a referendum on the island's territorial status, four sources familiar with the situation told CBS News.

The bill will be unveiled by Florida Rep. Darren Soto, a Democrat who represents parts of Orlando and its large Puerto Rican community, during a press conference in Washington, which will be attended by the island's Gov. Ricardo RossellÃ³, a vocal supporter of Puerto Rican statehood. If enacted, the legislation would automatically trigger the island's admission into the union, bypassing any referendum, the sources said.

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lawmakers-to-introduce-bill-granting-puerto-rico-statehood/ar-BBVjPpb?ocid=ientp

Bigun · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2019, 02:51:57 pm »

Not only no but HELL NO!

dfwgator · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2019, 02:52:18 pm »

Hell No!

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2019, 02:57:13 pm »

NO. Not by this method. The same processes to become a State other States (except West Virginia) have had to follow should be followed. When those processes start being 'bypassed', our laws become meaningless.

rustynail · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:00:08 pm »

It would be racist not to?

mountaineer · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:03:02 pm »

One option: We could cut them loose (financially) and grant them independence. Go start a new country, amigos.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:06:16 pm »

Thanks for the poll, @corbe!

ABX · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:10:15 pm »

If not, we need to stop taxing her citizens.

mountaineer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:11:07 pm »

Seriously, I would like to see all the pros and cons on the issue. This article purports to be A Conservative Case against Statehood for Puerto Rico and the same publication earlier presented A Conservative Case for Puerto Rican Statehood

Bigun · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:18:50 pm »

Quote from: ABX on March 28, 2019, 03:10:15 pm

If not, we need to stop taxing her citizens.

Why?

corbe · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:25:28 pm »

You're so very Welcome @Cyber Liberty
Your Boss assured me that I could get off her $hit list IF I straighten up AND this proves successful.
All suggestions are encouraged and welcomed.

corbe · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:35:48 pm »

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jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:44:38 pm »

After they botched Maria, not a chance. They're not ready.

They deserve self-determination as all human beings do, but they're clearly not on the same level of development as the rest of the country... so it's best to cut them loose.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:45:41 pm »

Quote from: corbe on March 28, 2019, 02:49:47 pm

Washington â€” A bipartisan group of lawmakers will introduce legislation Thursday that would admit Puerto Rico into the union as the 51st state without a referendum on the island's territorial status, four sources familiar with the situation told CBS News.

The premise is not true. They've had multiple referenda and they've passed.

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2019, 03:46:17 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on March 28, 2019, 03:18:50 pm

Why?

Taxation without representation.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2019, 04:04:30 pm »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on March 28, 2019, 03:46:17 pm

Taxation without representation.

With almost half this country not paying taxes, I have to say representation without taxation is no good either. They don't have skin in the game and will vote to increase taxes on those already paying them, confident they, themselves will not be taxed.

I am not familiar enough with the tax situation on PR.

ABX · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2019, 04:08:14 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 28, 2019, 04:04:30 pm

With almost half this country not paying taxes, I have to say representation without taxation is no good either. They don't have skin in the game and will vote to increase taxes on those already paying them, confident they, themselves will not be taxed.

I am not familiar enough with the tax situation on PR.

Everyone pays some sort of taxes. It isn't just federal income tax. Everything from sales tax, excise taxes, loads of fees on every level of the supply chain, tariffs, social security, Medicare, etc. One can even argue federal interest rates are a tax.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2019, 04:18:29 pm »

Quote from: ABX on March 28, 2019, 04:08:14 pm

Everyone pays some sort of taxes. It isn't just federal income tax. Everything from sales tax, excise taxes, loads of fees on every level of the supply chain, tariffs, social security, Medicare, etc. One can even argue federal interest rates are a tax.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree. Most people just look at the Income taxes. Some of those taxes you mention, like excise taxes, are hidden in the prices.

EdJames · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2019, 07:26:21 pm »

@corbe

I will go with your "cut them loose" option.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2019, 08:42:29 pm »

Someone is looking for two more Democrats in the Senate.

sneakypete · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2019, 11:24:24 pm »

Please repeat after me. "HELL NO!"

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2019, 11:52:42 pm »

Quote from: sneakypete on March 28, 2019, 11:24:24 pm

Please repeat after me. "HELL NO!"

They have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps out of the turd world, first. Until then they will be a financial drain, like having Mexico part of the United States. I'd rather cut them loose.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2019, 11:57:00 pm »

Quote from: EdJames on March 28, 2019, 07:26:21 pm

@corbe

I will go with your "cut them loose" option.

corbe · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2019, 12:26:39 am »

*instead of the rabbit with a pancake on it's head.

sneakypete · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2019, 04:56:21 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 28, 2019, 11:52:42 pm

They have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps out of the turd world, first. Until then they will be a financial drain, like having Mexico part of the United States. I'd rather cut them loose.

@Cyber Liberty

The problem with cutting them loose is the Chinese would probably move in and take over. They now have all those Wal-Mart dollars to spend,thanks to Boy Jorge and Bubba,so they can easily afford to have a "island warehouse" right off our shore.

Not to mention a place to service their subs and aircraft. Don't know about you,but I don't want Chinese nukes that close to our shores.

I would rather see the island sink beneath the waves that see that happen.