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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2019, 10:30:30 pm »
I will reiterate my challenge once again... What are we getting out of the Tump administration that we actually get to keep?

So far, only more enormous debt.
That makes this administration at best, a waste of time.

@roamer_1

OK,bubba,name the candidate you wish had won,and tell us all what we would get from him,and what he could GUARANTEE? Sounds like you dream of a dictator because no one else can guarantee anything.
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2019, 10:39:08 pm »
I am not the one who considers them ethereal, @Right_in_Virginia , I am the one saying those principles are defined and specific.

The problem @roamer_1 is you wouldn't recognize one of your principles in action in the real world if it bit you on the ass.

But you keep preaching, you keep virtue-signaling.  Soon no one will give a damn what blather you're spewing.

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2019, 11:04:04 pm »
@roamer_1

OK,bubba,name the candidate you wish had won,and tell us all what we would get from him,and what he could GUARANTEE? Sounds like you dream of a dictator because no one else can guarantee anything.

Strawman Pete. My criticism is of Tumpy's direct actions - That they were predictable (and they were) is beside the point. What he is doing is of little effect for Conservatism, certainly so against the complicit imbalance of freewheeling and massive spending that our great-great-grandchildren might hope to pay off.

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2019, 11:05:15 pm »
The problem @roamer_1 is you wouldn't recognize one of your principles in action in the real world if it bit you on the ass.

But you keep preaching, you keep virtue-signaling.  Soon no one will give a damn what blather you're spewing.

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So I take it you can 'splain it to me @Right_in_Virginia ...

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2019, 11:25:28 pm »
@sneakypete

Let's get some sh*t straight, peaches. I don't pray for a Democrat win.
I don't pray for a socialist win.
I don't pray for a Progressive win.
I don't want any of what they are selling.
I want my republic back.
And the GOP is in the way of that, too, half the time.

You just can't see it. Yet.
One other thing is obvious to me, You don't know sh*t about what makes me tick.
But keep this in mind. I don't worship anyone who has walked the earth in the last 1900 years.

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2019, 11:33:21 pm »
So I take it you can 'splain it to me @Right_in_Virginia ...

Okay, already --- I'm convinced:   You've an endless wealth of blather to share.   :shrug:

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2019, 11:39:23 pm »
Here we go again—whenever a conservative disagrees with any prevailing opinion, he/she must be a Democrat. 

JimRob would be so proud.
I say this to Beto fans, Trump fans, all fans of politicians: it is un-American, ridiculous, and dangerous to be a fan of a politician. They aren't pop stars. Support them if you agree with their policies. Criticize them when they go wrong. They are servants, not celebrities. —— Matt Walsh

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2019, 12:00:37 am »
Strawman Pete. My criticism is of Tumpy's direct actions - That they were predictable (and they were) is beside the point. What he is doing is of little effect for Conservatism, certainly so against the complicit imbalance of freewheeling and massive spending that our great-great-grandchildren might hope to pay off.

@roamer_1

Un,huh. Nice dodge,but the truth is you just want to bitch about Trump,and have no alternatives to offer. Does it make you feel superior somehow to play that game?
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2019, 12:03:01 am »
@sneakypete


One other thing is obvious to me, You don't know sh*t about what makes me tick.
But keep this in mind. I don't worship anyone who has walked the earth in the last 1900 years.

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Yeah,but I don't know what makes you tick,right? PRAISE DE LAWD!

You obviously prefer fictional characters to real,living people.
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2019, 12:04:46 am »
@roamer_1

Un,huh. Nice dodge,but the truth is you just want to bitch about Trump,and have no alternatives to offer. Does it make you feel superior somehow to play that game?

THat's because there is no alternative to offer now (unless Pence has to somehow step up) until the next election...

That does not mean that criticism has to stop (nor will/should it)

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2019, 01:45:09 am »
@Smokin Joe

Yeah,but I don't know what makes you tick,right? PRAISE DE LAWD!

You obviously prefer fictional characters to real,living people.
I'll pass on the one you've been pushing, thanks. There is plenty of fiction there.

All we have lasting is a gun stock ban and 5 trillion in debt.
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2019, 03:29:16 am »
I'll pass on the one you've been pushing, thanks. There is plenty of fiction there.

All we have lasting is a gun stock ban and 5 trillion in debt.

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And you whining because there isn't more.
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2019, 05:23:24 am »
I didn't realize that the "NeverTrump" belonged to anyone.  As seen here at TBR if you don't go along with every policy, tweet or tantrum you are "NeverTrump".  I sure never considered McCain a leader of anything.
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2019, 05:28:01 am »
I didn't realize that the "NeverTrump" belonged to anyone.  As seen here at TBR if you don't go along with every policy, tweet or tantrum you are "NeverTrump".  I sure never considered McCain a leader of anything.

Nope. Never voted for him either, Palin or otherwise.

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2019, 02:09:32 pm »
@Smokin Joe

And you whining because there isn't more.
I take it back, we have to blend a sh*tload more alcohol into the gasoline supply.


Marvelous accomplishments.  *****rollingeyes*****

Wall.
Hillary in Irons
ACA repealed.

Where is that?
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2019, 02:14:55 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

That’s a stirring speech, but it isn’t about just that.  It’s about adoration of a public servant.  And it’s  amazing that the tone-deafness among hardcore Trump fans persists to the degree that you still don’t understand how to sell Trump without cultic language like “getting on his train.”   If there’s a train, it’s ours, and Trump needs to be on it.

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2019, 02:23:07 pm »
I take it back, we have to blend a sh*tload more alcohol into the gasoline supply.
What a waste of booze. :shotglass:  8888crybaby

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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2019, 05:35:42 pm »
What a waste of booze. :shotglass:  8888crybaby
It was made from corn....It coulda been a ...a contender!
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Re: John McCain Was the Admiral of the Never Trump Movement
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2019, 10:38:09 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

That’s a stirring speech, but it isn’t about just that.  It’s about adoration of a public servant.  And it’s  amazing that the tone-deafness among hardcore Trump fans persists to the degree that you still don’t understand how to sell Trump without cultic language like “getting on his train.”   If there’s a train, it’s ours, and Trump needs to be on it.

That's what is missing.  The realization that it isn't a Trump train.  Its our train and it needs to be headed in the "right" (Conservative) direction.  Trump is self absorbed. 
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.