Weld hammers Trump over McCain attacks: You're a 'national embarrassment'

[Applewood]

I'm puzzled by the notion that no one may speak ill of the dead. We don't have any problem speaking ill of people like Manson, Hitler, Whitey Bulger, et al., to we? McCain may not have been a mass murderer, but he still was a piece of crap.

My only objection to Trump criticizing him is that it's a waste of time. Please, el presidente, do something more important with your time.

Thing is, most people don't keep bringing up Manson, et al. all the time.  We acknowledge they are evil, but if we believe in God and the afterlife, we believe that these people have been or will be judged by a  higher power and be punished for their sins.  There is no need to harp about them after they are gone. 

Whatever sins McCain committed -- they don't even come close to those of mass murderers like Hitler or Manson.  And in the case of McCain, he left behind a family and friends who loved him.  Constantly whining about a dead man hurts those he left behind.  Yes, I know his family isn't wonderful either, but they are his family and a civilized society recognozes that and does not do or say anything to hurt them.   

I do agree that it is a waste of time and effort for Trump to rehash his emnity for McCain.  Unlike doing constructive things with his time like fulfilling his campaign promises, his vitriol against McCain serves no useful purpose other than entertaining and engaging his fans.

[aligncare]

I'm puzzled by the notion that no one may speak ill of the dead. We don't have any problem speaking ill of people like Manson, Hitler, Whitey Bulger, et al., do we? McCain may not have been a mass murderer, but he still was a piece of crap.

My only objection to Trump criticizing him is that it's a waste of time. Please, el presidente, do something more important with your time.

You’re absolutely correct. But these latest comments of the president’s are responses to the media asking about his previously stated position and remarks about McCain. And you know Trump, he never shies away from an opportunity to make his point – even if his point is considered toxic by the democratic activist media. If he thinks he’s right about something, he’s going to say so.

By the way, the democrat media attacked McCain unmercifully when he ran against The One. So, these shouts of outrage now ring mighty hollow.

[Bigun]

Thing is, most people don't keep bringing up Manson, et al. all the time.  We acknowledge they are evil, but if we believe in God and the afterlife, we believe that these people have been or will be judged by a  higher power and be punished for their sins.  There is no need to harp about them after they are gone. 

Whatever sins McCain committed -- they don't even come close to those of mass murderers like Hitler or Manson.  And in the case of McCain, he left behind a family and friends who loved him.  Constantly whining about a dead man hurts those he left behind.  Yes, I know his family isn't wonderful either, but they are his family and a civilized society recognozes that and does not do or say anything to hurt them.   

I do agree that it is a waste of time and effort for Trump to rehash his emnity for McCain.  Unlike doing constructive things with his time like fulfilling his campaign promises, his vitriol against McCain serves no useful purpose other than entertaining and engaging his fans.

@Applewood

I don't think you know what you are talking about here.  Just because things don't happen in your little circle doesn't mean they don't happen at all. People talk about all sorts of things that you personally may not be privy to.  Continuing to talk about McCain in the realm of politics is both appropriate and necessary IMHO.

[Free Vulcan]

Obviously he's not if Republicans are getting so butthurt over it.

[edpc]

I'm puzzled by the notion that no one may speak ill of the dead. We don't have any problem speaking ill of people like Manson, Hitler, Whitey Bulger, et al., do we? McCain may not have been a mass murderer, but he still was a piece of crap.

My only objection to Trump criticizing him is that it's a waste of time. Please, el presidente, do something more important with your time.

It’s a waste of time, inaccurate, and gratuitous. When the dossier was passed to the FBI by McCain, they already had it. Plus, they already had an active counter-intel investigation open. Nothing he did triggered the previous or current investigations. As far as repeal and replace goes, guess who else was against it - the House Freedom Caucus. Trump threatened to primary them in 2018, due to their opposition.

It was a brainchild of the establishment, pushed by McConnell and Ryan. We’re now supposed to believe it would have been better? Plus, the individual mandate was removed when the tax cuts were passed. Trump told us Obamacare was dead, due to that. So, again, McCain failed, according to Trump, to keep Obamacare alive. He really needs to get his story straight.

[Applewood]

@Applewood

I don't think you know what you are talking about here.  Just because things don't happen in your little circle doesn't mean they don't happen at all. People talk about all sorts of things that you personally may not be privy to.  Continuing to talk about McCain in the realm of politics is both appropriate and necessary IMHO.

Then I guess your circle must lead boring lives if all you talk about is Trump and his latest excuse for his failures. 

[jafo2010]

I have been a Trump loyalist, but he is his own worst enemy.  McCain's involvement in the dossier makes no difference to those above ground.  The fact he was a maggot is known by most people.  The lying hypocrites of this nation like Donna Brazile that now sing his praises, well, no one with intelligence listens to that bimbo.

Trump is losing my support because he is indicating he wants to up the numbers of folks coming to the USA via H1-b Visas.  He promised to eliminate this program Day 1 of his presidency.  Trump's two primary planks, which got America's staunch support were ending the illegal alien invasion and making America great again, largely for jobs.  Both issues are tied together, for both mean more jobs for Americans.  Now he is abandoning that with his position of wanting more low cost foreign labor.  He sticks to this bullsh*t position, he loses my vote and everyone else I can influence. 

A Republican that wants to make a serious run at Trump would be well advised to pick the positions Trump held in 2016 and carry them forward promising to deliver, unlike Trump.  They might just beat him in the primary.  Americans have been betrayed by politicians for decades, and they hunger for representation. 

[Bigun]

Then I guess your circle must lead boring lives if all you talk about is Trump and his latest excuse for his failures.

I'm pretty sure you either didn't read or failed to comprehend what I said. 

[Cyber Liberty]

I have been a Trump loyalist, but he is his own worst enemy.  McCain's involvement in the dossier makes no difference to those above ground.  The fact he was a maggot is known by most people.  The lying hypocrites of this nation like Donna Brazile that now sing his praises, well, no one with intelligence listens to that bimbo.

Trump is losing my support because he is indicating he wants to up the numbers of folks coming to the USA via H1-b Visas.  He promised to eliminate this program Day 1 of his presidency.  Trump's two primary planks, which got America's staunch support were ending the illegal alien invasion and making America great again, largely for jobs.  Both issues are tied together, for both mean more jobs for Americans.  Now he is abandoning that with his position of wanting more low cost foreign labor.  He sticks to this bullsh*t position, he loses my vote and everyone else I can influence. 

A Republican that wants to make a serious run at Trump would be well advised to pick the positions Trump held in 2016 and carry them forward promising to deliver, unlike Trump.  They might just beat him in the primary.  Americans have been betrayed by politicians for decades, and they hunger for representation.

He said he wanted to eliminate all H1-Bs?  I find that hard to believe, because we relied heavily on H1-B people when I worked in R&D at a Semiconductor chipmaker (not enough PhD level Electrical Engineers available).  If he did say it, I knew better than to believe it which would be why I don't recall it....

[edpc]

He said he wanted to eliminate all H1-Bs?  I find that hard to believe, because we relied heavily on H1-B people when I worked in R&D at a Semiconductor chipmaker (not enough PhD level Electrical Engineers available).  If he did say it, I knew better than to believe it which would be why I don't recall it....

Donald Trump vows to end H1-B visa program in GOP debate

“I know the H1-B very well. We shouldn’t have it, it’s very, very bad for workers,” Mr. Trump said during the Republican debate at Miami University. He added as an employer, he’s used the program, but in reality it doesn’t benefit U.S. workers.

“It’s unfair to our workers and we should end it,” Mr. Trump said, saying the program should be evaluated and ended if needed within one to two years after he takes office.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/10/donald-trump-vows-to-end-h1-b-visa-program-in-wash/


But, as you say, you didn’t believe it. He’s unreliable, at best, and that’s always been my issue with him.

[Cyber Liberty]

Donald Trump vows to end H1-B visa program in GOP debate

“I know the H1-B very well. We shouldn’t have it, it’s very, very bad for workers,” Mr. Trump said during the Republican debate at Miami University. He added as an employer, he’s used the program, but in reality it doesn’t benefit U.S. workers.

“It’s unfair to our workers and we should end it,” Mr. Trump said, saying the program should be evaluated and ended if needed within one to two years after he takes office.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/10/donald-trump-vows-to-end-h1-b-visa-program-in-wash/


But, as you say, you didn’t believe it. He’s unreliable, at best, and that’s always been my issue with him.

As a 40+ year spectator of politics I've learned to tell the difference between policy positions and red meat.  Trump is no different in this regard.   

[edpc]

As a 40+ year spectator of politics I've learned to tell the difference between policy positions and red meat.  Trump is no different in this regard.   

Understood, but a lot of people pulled the lever for him, because they’re on the political Atkins diet.

[mountaineer]

Understood, but a lot of people pulled the lever for him, because they’re on the political Atkins diet.

Or they just didn't want Hillary Clinton back in the White House.

[Cyber Liberty]

Or they just didn't want Hillary Clinton back in the White House.

That "inspired" a lot of voters on the way into the  voting booth.  The Rats are exhibiting even worse candidates this time, even Bite-Me" is looking bad.  He called Trump supporters the "Dregs of the Earth."

[Cyber Liberty]

The article only mentions three Republicans that I could see with a skim of the story:  Lindsey Graham, loser John Kasich and some GA State Senator.  Definitely Trouble for President Trump.

 

[XenaLee]

The article only mentions three Republicans that I could see with a skim of the story:  Lindsey Graham, loser John Kasich and some GA State Senator.  Definitely Trouble for President Trump.

 

Yeah, only three GOPers?   Not exactly a consensus.  I wouldn't worry about it.   McCain stabbed every single GOPer and Conservative in the back when he 'thumbs downed' the ObamaCare repeal... after running for office on repealing it.  He lied, he cheated, he betrayed.  Eff him and anyone that doesn't acknowledge that fact.  And beware of Little Lindsey, too. 

[aligncare]

The article only mentions three Republicans that I could see with a skim of the story:  Lindsey Graham, loser John Kasich and some GA State Senator.  Definitely Trouble for President Trump.

 

Funny, everyone keeps telling Trump the way he’s doing things is all wrong.

But I don’t see everyone wildly successful in three separate fields like Donald Trump: property development, entertainment, and U.S. President.

Everyone should get back to us when they’ve achieved something really big, once.

[jmyrlefuller]

Funny, everyone keeps telling Trump the way he’s doing things is all wrong.

But I don’t see everyone wildly successful in three separate fields like Donald Trump: property development, entertainment, and U.S. President.

Everyone should get back to us when they’ve achieved something really big, once.

Oh, who gives a shit.

[aligncare]

Oh, who gives a shit.

Obviously, not you. 

[sneakypete]

 McCain may not have been a mass murderer, but he still was a piece of crap.

@mountaineer

MAYBE not directly,but you can bet the farm some of the information he released helped people who WERE directly responsible for mass murders commit them by identifying their targets.

[sneakypete]

Thing is, most people don't keep bringing up Manson, et al. all the time. 

If people didn't keep defending McLunatic against the indefensible all the time,there would be no reason to mention him,either.

Jim Jones was a religious figure who had followers that remind me of McLunatics followers,they loved him to death,and were even willing to commit suicide to please him. You going to defend that,too? If not,why not?

Whatever sins McCain committed -- they don't even come close to those of mass murderers like Hitler or Manson.

BullBush! McLunatic was a serving officer in time of war that gave aid and comfort to our enemy. That means he was a traitor. How does it feel to identify yourself with a traitor?

 

And in the case of McCain, he left behind a family and friends who loved him.

 

Big freaking deal. He left a daughter who loved him. His junkie wife was just collecting a trophy and probably has to be reminded he is dead.

BTW,Jack the Ripper and Blackbeard most likely left behind families that loved them,too. Does that mean they weren't evil or that we shouldn't expose them for what they were?

[sneakypete]

Then I guess your circle must lead boring lives if all you talk about is Trump and his latest excuse for his failures.

@Applewood

Good to see you come out of the closet and admit defending McLunatic is based on your hatred of Trump.

[DCPatriot]

@mountaineer

MAYBE not directly,but you can bet the farm some of the information he released helped people who WERE directly responsible for mass murders commit them by identifying their targets.

Buddy, I love ya!  And if there was any Briefer here that might be able to endure Viet Kong torture...que the Russian Roulette scene from Deer Hunter...it's you!

But, I'm not going to fault John McCain for anything related to Viet Nam.   Absolvotae!

IMO, in a sick way, John McCain could end up being the dead end of it all.

Hillary:  "I had no idea what John McCain was up to, feeding our campaign intelligence papers to the media and my goodness, even the FBI!!"


Let's be honest here.   Nothing is too outrageous to imagine when it comes to the Clinton machine still entrenched in the agencies today.

[sneakypete]

Buddy, I love ya!  And if there was any Briefer here that might be able to endure Viet Kong torture...que the Russian Roulette scene from Deer Hunter...it's you!

@DCPatriot

Then you have more faith in me than I have in myself. NOBODY,including me,can claim they wouldn't have done the same as McLunatic if put in that position EXCEPT for his fellow POW's who didn't and suffered for it. THEY are the real heroes,and the truth is I have no reason to believe I could have matched up to them.  I can HOPE I would have,but we will never know,will we?

But, I'm not going to fault John McCain for anything related to Viet Nam.   Absolvotae!

I will,and am happy to do so. I only regret I never had an opportunity to get right up in his face about it.

[Applewood]

@sneakypete

BullBush! McLunatic was a serving officer in time of war that gave aid and comfort to our enemy. That means he was a traitor. How does it feel to identify yourself with a traitor?

That claim is disputed in several sources, including this one:

Despite the recent accusations that he was a collaborator, most of the evidence suggests that McCain's cooperation with the North Vietnamese was very limited, which likely resulted in considerable additional hardship for him. Although McCain has himself admitted to signing some statements which were apparently never used as actual propaganda and to participating in the recording of a propaganda tape, indications are that he was not sufficiently forthcoming in these statements and that the North Vietnamese propaganda ministry found him troublesome and unhelpful, limiting his participation to general and ambiguous statements.

http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/did-john-mccain-collaborate-with-the-enemy/