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BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« on: March 12, 2019, 08:20:23 pm »
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Brexit: MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
    12 March 2019

Prime Minister Theresa May's EU withdrawal deal has been rejected by MPs for a second time, throwing her Brexit strategy into further confusion.

MPs voted down her deal by 391 to 242 - a smaller defeat than when they rejected it in January.

The PM said MPs will now get a vote on whether the UK should leave without a deal on 29 March and, if that fails, on whether Brexit should be delayed.

She said Tory MPs will get a free vote on a no-deal Brexit.

Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47547887



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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 08:24:32 pm »
What is it with these damned politicians, on both sides of the Atlantic, that makes them think they can over-rule the clear will of the people?
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 08:50:00 pm »
What is it with these damned politicians, on both sides of the Atlantic, that makes them think they can over-rule the clear will of the people?

The clear will of the people to return them to office, year after year, regardless of what they do.
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2019, 09:13:13 pm »
The clear will of the people to return them to office, year after year, regardless of what they do.

I imagine that we will soon see if that holds up this time.
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2019, 09:54:23 pm »
What is it with these damned politicians, on both sides of the Atlantic, that makes them think they can over-rule the clear will of the people?

What clear will is that?

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2019, 09:59:00 pm »
What clear will is that?

The one they expressed when they voted to leave the EU.   You can recall that can't you?
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2019, 10:01:34 pm »
The one they expressed when they voted to leave the EU.   You can recall that can't you?

One of the main reasons for the 'cold feet' is that the US is undergoing a rapid change.

With no POTUS Trump in 2021, markets will run for cover.  In said event, buy a generator asap.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2019, 10:32:23 pm »
The one they expressed when they voted to leave the EU.   You can recall that can't you?


That wasn’t a clear expression of “the people’s” will.  That was a muddled decision that was about as close to 50/50 as one can get. 

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2019, 02:19:54 am »
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Theresa May's Brexit deal is rejected again: Here's what happens next
CNBC, Mar 12, 2019, Matt Clinch

•The route forward is still uncertain but May has already promised two more votes for the U.K. Parliament.
•On Wednesday and Thursday, respectively, lawmakers will likely get to vote on whether the U.K. should leave the 28-member bloc with no deal, or should request a delay to its departure, which is currently scheduled for March 29.

The route forward is still extremely uncertain but May has already promised two more votes for the U.K. Parliament. On Wednesday and Thursday, respectively, lawmakers will get to vote on whether the U.K. should leave the 28-member bloc with no deal, or should request a delay to its departure — which is currently scheduled for March 29.

May confirmed that these votes would go ahead just seconds after her deal was overwhelmingly rejected for a second time.

The first vote on a no-deal scenario — where the U.K. crashes out of the bloc and has to rely on WTO trading rules — is highly likely to be rejected by politicians. However, it's not concrete and there's still a possibility the U.K. could leave without a deal, even if they vote against it.

[...]

If Wednesday's vote is rejected, lawmakers will vote Thursday evening on whether they want an extension to Article 50 — which is the formal two-year process governing Britain's departure from the European Union.

With only 17 days left until the Brexit deadline, it's possible that lawmakers could back this, although pro-Brexit MPs (Members of Parliament) worry that this could lead to a second referendum or no Brexit at all.

An extension to Article 50 also opens up the possibility of another general election in the U.K. if May, perhaps understandably, grows weary of the political stalemate in Westminster.


More:  https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/12/brexit-deal-rejected-again-heres-what-happens-next.html


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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2019, 02:43:59 am »
One of the main reasons for the 'cold feet' is that the US is undergoing a rapid change.

With no POTUS Trump in 2021, markets will run for cover.  In said event, buy a generator asap.

I heard today, someone comment that England can survive because of the USA's role. I'd like to think that's true. I think it was on one of the news shows and not just on some forum.

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2019, 12:43:47 pm »
One of the main reasons for the 'cold feet' is that the US is undergoing a rapid change.

With no POTUS Trump in 2021, markets will run for cover.  In said event, buy a generator asap.

You think you will be able to buy fuel but not electricity?
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2019, 09:50:55 pm »
With friend, Nigel Farage, we may make sure UK gets by okay.

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2019, 11:48:47 am »

As I understand it, Britain could leave their message directly.

By bombing Brussels.

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2019, 12:18:05 pm »
You think you will be able to buy fuel but not electricity?
Not to mention all the neighbors coming over, attracted by the noise and the lights...
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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2019, 02:05:03 pm »
What clear will is that?

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Re: BREXIT LIVE! MPs reject Theresa May's deal by 149 votes
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2019, 10:12:05 am »
Taking sticky off of this Brexit thread...