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Being a haughty hottie probably won’t get you far with the judge.
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Indictment against wealthy parents buying their kids into selective college is stunning. Some kids didn't know about their parents efforts. But Lori Loughlin's kids did. They pretended to row crew - even posed on ERG machines - to get into USC. They are both Instagram stars.
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After receiving provisional admission based on pretended to row crew, Loughlin's daughter couldn't figure out how to fill out the actual application, so they had the fraudster fill one out for her. The scope of laziness and entitlement here is something

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Being a haughty hottie probably won’t get you far with the judge.

Also having your arms crossed, with a smug condescending look on your face is not the best strategy in a hearing.
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In the daughters defense,they grew up in a world where there is no such thing as line between fantasy and reality.  You can't blame the children for their upbringing until they are 25 or so,and have had a chance to experience life away from home.

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Things get even weirder (granted, this is the Daily Mail, so take it with a grain of salt, BUT...)

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Lifestyle vlogger Olivia Jade Giannulli, 19, took on fellow influencer Marissa Rachel and singer Rydel Lynch in a 2016 episode of Tap That Awesome App for a now defunct Verizon mobile phone channel.

But when Rachel was declared the winner in front of a live audience she says studio execs mysteriously stepped in and ordered producers to re-shoot the final few questions.

When the trivia contest resumed Rachel and Lynch were under orders not to buzz in with the correct answers, leaving Giannulli to take home first prize, a $5,000 donation to a charity of her choice, it's alleged.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6809589/Lori-Loughlins-daughter-second-cheating-scandal-alleged-rigged-contest.html

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Things get even weirder (granted, this is the Daily Mail, so take it with a grain of salt, BUT...)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6809589/Lori-Loughlins-daughter-second-cheating-scandal-alleged-rigged-contest.html

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I'm sure that this kind of thing has been going on for longer than any of us know....not just with celebs. 

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I'm sure that this kind of thing has been going on for longer than any of us know....not just with celebs.

When one of the parents asked if this could blow up ineir face, they were told that it has worked for 24 years.

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The same people outraged that the rich can  bribe a path for their kids to get in a college, are all for providing free college for illegal aliens.
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The same people outraged that the rich can  bribe a path for their kids to get in a college, are all for providing free college for illegal aliens.
Maybe some of them are in there, but I'm not one for providing free college to illegals, and think that some person who could pass the tests got replaced by someone who felt entitled just because of daddy's money is bullsh*t.

Athletic and merit scholarships are the last great hope of kids who know they won't be able to afford the tuition otherwise, and they bust their butts to get those. Letting someone buy that spot is crap, and it's how we get all these ubercredentialed idiots running around in DC and elsewhere.
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Maybe some of them are in there, but I'm not one for providing free college to illegals, and think that some person who could pass the tests got replaced by someone who felt entitled just because of daddy's money is bullsh*t.

Athletic and merit scholarships are the last great hope of kids who know they won't be able to afford the tuition otherwise, and they bust their butts to get those. Letting someone buy that spot is crap, and it's how we get all these ubercredentialed idiots running around in DC and elsewhere.
Well, to be sure, you know as well as I do a lot of those athletes in  major colleges performing before the adoring masses are most likely there fraudulently.
I only have to hear some of them talk and look at their tatted up physiques to wonder how they got through high school much less be able to take regular college courses.
Reminds me of a story (might be apocryphal) I heard about Dick Butkus. Supposedly, when he got to U-Illinois he complained about having to read books when he went there to play football.

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Well, to be sure, you know as well as I do a lot of those athletes in  major colleges performing before the adoring masses are most likely there fraudulently.
I only have to hear some of them talk and look at their tatted up physiques to wonder how they got through high school much less be able to take regular college courses.
Reminds me of a story (might be apocryphal) I heard about Dick Butkus. Supposedly, when he got to U-Illinois he complained about having to read books when he went there to play football.
I'm not saying the jocks are there because they're geniuses. I have seen that, too, even when I went to school. That  racket is that they bring in alumnae dollars, which, in turn support the sports programs, with a little skim... As for their grades, well, that's the reason I ended up on the Honor Council, only called on one case, which to the dismay of the poly sci majors, I did better on than they did. I was not called back for a second case.

That isn't saying there aren't those who can make the grades, just that some are questionable at best, in training for the entitled attitude seen so often in the pro sports to which they aspire.
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"Looks like University of Illinois!"

One thing that I hope does not get lost in this story, is the bottom line that there is a terrible gaming of the higher education system, and the "REAL" losers are the ones who get bumped from consideration.  NOW....add the fact that Elizabeth Warren basically did the same thing, lying about heritage to get into Harvard.  Beleive me.......    There was a very deserving talented Native American who lost their spot to the school for her actions.   The nation can not forget this.
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One thing that I hope does not get lost in this story, is the bottom line that there is a terrible gaming of the higher education system, and the "REAL" losers are the ones who get bumped from consideration.  NOW....add the fact that Elizabeth Warren basically did the same thing, lying about heritage to get into Harvard.  Beleive me.......    There was a very deserving talented Native American who lost their spot to the school for her actions.   The nation can not forget this.

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Judge nixes vacation for parent charged in college admissions scam
By Marie Szaniszlo and Laurel J. Sweet
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PUBLISHED: March 29, 2019 at 4:05 pm | UPDATED: March 29, 2019 at 6:45 pm

Some of the parents charged in a nationwide college admissions cheating scheme are pushing to be allowed to leave the country on business and pleasure as they reported to federal court in Boston for the first time Friday.

More than a dozen accused moms and dads, mostly from California, making their initial appearances left court with little to say outside. But a few appearing before federal Magistrate Judge M. Page Kelley asked for leniency.

Gamal Abdelaziz, 62, of Las Vegas was the first up, with his lawyer asking that the former Wynn casino executive be allowed to travel to Mexico for business. He added his client has lived in Hong Kong and China.  ...

... The judge allowed Abdelaziz to leave the country, only for business.  ...

William McGlashan Jr., 55, of Mill Valley, Calif., wasn’t so lucky. The senior executive at a global equity firm was told by the judge he could not go on a family vacation to Mexico.  ...

Actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are charged in the case but are not scheduled to appear in court until next week. They have not publicly addressed the allegations. ...
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So we have a bunch of people who make lots of money for being someone they aren't shelling out gobs of that money so their kids can be someone they aren't. I get that, it's true to form, for them, anyway.

But the next time some actor stands up and tries to lecture me on science, can I throw the first rotten tomato?

I worked for my degree.
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Now that the defendants are starting to make court appearances, we can expect some interesting and amusing developments.
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Blunt-smoking man’s parents charged in admissions scam warned to stay off weed
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March 29, 2019

More than a dozen wealthy parents charged with paying bribes to get their underachieving kids into college appeared in Boston federal court on Friday — including two New Yorkers who were busted in the nationwide scam.

Greg and Marcia Abbott made a brief appearance before Magistrate Judge M. Page Kelley, who allowed each to remain free on $500,000 bond set March 12 in Manhattan federal court. ...

And because they were in Massachusetts — where recreational pot is legal — Kelley was required to warn the Upper East Side couple not to smoke any, which would be a federal crime.

Earlier this month, the Abbotts’ middle child — son Malcolm, a wannabe rapper who calls himself “Billa” — infamously puffed away on a blunt while defending his mom and dad to The Post outside the family’s Fifth Avenue apartment building across from the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

“I believe everyone has a right to go to college, man,” he said at the time. ...
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i have to admit I don't understand all the outrage over this,or even understand why it is illegal. This has been going on ever since the first college was started,and will continue to go on for as long as some people have more money than other people.

Does ANYONE seriously think that ANYBODY in either the Kennedy or Bush Klans has ever actually EARNED a degree in anything more complex than nose picking?
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i have to admit I don't understand all the outrage over this,or even understand why it is illegal. This has been going on ever since the first college was started,and will continue to go on for as long as some people have more money than other people.

Does ANYONE seriously think that ANYBODY in either the Kennedy or Bush Klans has ever actually EARNED a degree in anything more complex than nose picking?
:thumbsup: It's not fair, but then life has never been fair to the great majority of people. Not getting into an Ivy League school does not stop well-qualified applicants from getting into other very good schools. Their lives are not ruined.
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:thumbsup: It's not fair, but then life has never been fair to the great majority of people. Not getting into an Ivy League school does not stop well-qualified applicants from getting into other very good schools. Their lives are not ruined.

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Exactly! If your kid is academically-qualified and willing to work hard,they will get accepted to good schools regardless of the white trash with money buying spots on sports teams as a way to get admitted. Hell,they are not only going to get admitted,they will end up graduating like Chelsea Clinton graduated,and their parents will set them up as the figurehead of some sort of business,like the Clintons did with Chelsea.

We do have to give props to the Ca college Chelsea went to that refused to give her passing grades because she couldn't,or wouldn't do the work,and made her change majors in order to be able to graduate. Given that she is the spawn of a former President of the US,that was a MIGHTY bold move on their part. Not to mention surprising. Especially given that it was a Ca school.  Can't remember the name of it right now,but I do remember being surprised when she changed majors to something pedestrian instead of international. 
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Exactly! If your kid is academically-qualified and willing to work hard,they will get accepted to good schools regardless of the white trash with money buying spots on sports teams as a way to get admitted. Hell,they are not only going to get admitted,they will end up graduating like Chelsea Clinton graduated,and their parents will set them up as the figurehead of some sort of business,like the Clintons did with Chelsea.

We do have to give props to the Ca college Chelsea went to that refused to give her passing grades because she couldn't,or wouldn't do the work,and made her change majors in order to be able to graduate. Given that she is the spawn of a former President of the US,that was a MIGHTY bold move on their part. Not to mention surprising. Especially given that it was a Ca school.  Can't remember the name of it right now,but I do remember being surprised when she changed majors to something pedestrian instead of international.
As we both know powerful, wealthy people have been getting their idiot offspring into jobs/positions over better qualified people since the dawn of civilization.
If your life is ruined because some other less qualified person got something you thought you earned, then you're going to eventually fail anyway.
For many people life is a series of overcoming disappointments and forging ahead. In fact, it's probably a good thing that everybody has a little disappointment in their lives early on. It will prepare them for life and when things really turn sour.
 Not getting into Harvard or Yale and having to settle for  a lesser renowned school will not cause somebody to fail at life. Unless they were destined to fail anyway.

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The tennis coach connection is somewhat tenuous, but it's worth asking how Malia really did get into Harvard and Chelsea Clinton into Stanford (and Oxford). I suspect admission wasn't based their high school academic records. Did they take the place of more highly qualified students?

If a school chooses to take in students who do not excel academically to please rich parents, or because they believe it otherwise benefits the school, then that's the school's right.  That's different from committing fraud.

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i have to admit I don't understand all the outrage over this,or even understand why it is illegal. This has been going on ever since the first college was started,and will continue to go on for as long as some people have more money than other people.

Does ANYONE seriously think that ANYBODY in either the Kennedy or Bush Klans has ever actually EARNED a degree in anything more complex than nose picking?

There's a huge difference.

Schools admit legacies and people from rich families because admitting those kids usually means the school makes a lot more money.  And that's money that is used to maintain facilities, build dorms, etc..  Essentially, taking in the rich kids whose parents make donations helps keeps costs down for other kids.  It may not be "fair", but nobody is really losing out.

What these parents did was bribe individual employees.  So rather than the money going into the pockets of the university as a whole, it went in to the pockets of individual employees who kept it for their own benefit.  It's the difference between paying the airline more for a first class seat, and having first class seats taken by bribes to individual employees of the airline.

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There's a huge difference.

Schools admit legacies and people from rich families because admitting those kids usually means the school makes a lot more money.  And that's money that is used to maintain facilities, build dorms, etc..  Essentially, taking in the rich kids whose parents make donations helps keeps costs down for other kids.  It may not be "fair", but nobody is really losing out.

What these parents did was bribe individual employees.  So rather than the money going into the pockets of the university as a whole, it went in to the pockets of individual employees who kept it for their own benefit.  It's the difference between paying the airline more for a first class seat, and having first class seats taken by bribes to individual employees of the airline.

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From the POV of those denied a seat at the table,I see no difference.
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From the POV of those denied a seat at the table,I see no difference.

Well, sure.  That's the same rationale a thief uses to steal a car they can't afford.   "Why should only rich people get to drive something like that."


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