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HOW WOULD YOU KNOW @Right_in_Virginia ? We have already had this conversation, wherein you admitted that you don't even know what Conservatism IS - Yet you feel yourself qualified to arbitrate the quality of Tumpy's supposed 'conservatism'.

You're either not remembering correctly or deliberately lying here @roamer_1   I admitted no such thing.  I've asked repeatedly for your glorious and complete definition of conservatism .... and still await a satisfactory answer. 

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No damn sale. 

Would have welcomed your company,  but I can't really say I give a furry rat's behind what you will or will not buy.

Good luck to you.   :beer:
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Then ... the DEM wins.  Problem is there aren't conservatives getting nominated to replace the RINO's. 

Oh, "conservatives" are out there .... just not wearing a big "C" on their lapels.  Encourage them and they will stand.   happy77
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Oh, "conservatives" are out there .... just not wearing a big "C" on their lapels.  Encourage them and they will stand.   happy77

They may be out there ... but if we take a look at what happens in the Senate for example; Mitch does his best to control who gets into the Senate.  He has been know to throw money from the NRSC towards the incumbents and also to use money to keep conservatives out. 

So ... even with all the encouragement, RINO's stay seated.  McCain is a prime example.
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You're either not remembering correctly or deliberately lying here @roamer_1   I admitted no such thing.  I've asked repeatedly for your glorious and complete definition of conservatism .... and still await a satisfactory answer. 

You'd better go back and read it, then. You are the one saying 'But who knows what Conservatism really is anyway', and you are doing it again.

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Would have welcomed your company,  but I can't really say I give a furry rat's behind what you will or will not buy.

Good luck to you.   :beer:

Likewise.
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@Cyber Liberty

You mean like "We are Gawd-Fearing people,and only Gawd-Fearing people can be conservatives!"?

Don't blame the left for flushing the word "conservative" down the toilet and making it into a code word for "neo-Nazi control freak". Blame the Bible-Thumpers.
Typically, the real neo-Nazi control freaks are on the Left with the rest of the Communists and Socialists (and now, NEW! Improved! With more Muslims!)
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I so agree. Conservatism sounds like a dirty word.  I am beginning to dislike it.  I would say I am very conservative, as I wanted to be a NUN..when younger.  Very pure. More pure than most.  Virgin when I married, NEVER felt up,  or even allowed kissing on a date. I did not lie.  I had to teach myself my the, white lie, to survive.  As teenager, when girls asked for my lipstick, I gave them it, as I had it.  I hated that because every woman knows, it messes up the slant of your lipstick. Which I hated. When I finally learned to lie and say, 'I didn't have one"..I said a quick prayer, asking God to forgive my lie. Venial sin.   I've come a long way baby!  My husbands complaint about me was that, I was too wholesome and good.  In the mean time, he had many, many affairs on me. NOW, today, I am practical. COMMON SENSE. I can mostly tell, who is a cheater, liar, and a bit goofy.  Actually studying human behavior for 30+ years helped too.  I can tell very quickly, who a person..IS. Call it a curse. We need PRACTICAL. COMMON SENSE BELIEFS.
You had me right up until the last 4 words. (Not that I have ever used lipstick, even on Halloween).

You see, the Left has been selling their wares as "Common sense" solutions for so long, not much gets my hackles up like the use of that phrase in a political context. It's a trigger.
The word, "practical", as a modifier, means those beliefs are negotiable. Even Worse.

That just isn't going to appeal to folks who run on principles.

Principles are not for sale, they are immutable. It's right or it isn't.

But kids raised on fuzzy logic,, situation ethics, and 'estimating' 2+2 (and getting it wrong if their estimate happens to be 4) are going to have a tough time with that.

Unless you can rebrand the basics as what they are: a simpler, better life.

In today's market that isn't going to be easy.

BTW, some of us predicted the wrecking of the term "conservative" long ago, because so many who claimed to be it were not.
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Once again the 2nd Amendment folks are not making an argument that resonates with half of the nation, including half of Republicans in the Senate.  The other side sounds reasonable, even caring.  On a good day we sound like throwbacks to the wild, wild West.

The younger generation does not have a lick of understanding when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and why it was included in the Constitution.  They know only the Columbines.

Nor do they have any understanding of what has happened after "first they came for your guns, and then your treasure". 

Are there no organizations, no historians, no YouTube gurus to show these "kids" the fire they are playing with?

Our local gun group sets up gun booths at all the events they can... to teach...
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If we’re going to do all this ‘rebranding’ for 2020, let’s just call it the election of Nationalists v Communists. Won’t that be grand? Maybe we can even have our own Reichstag fire.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Maybe next time, support Conservatism and we will be on the same side -

I do @roamer_1 and I did.  I was focused on what was being said, not the bow it was wrapped in. 

One last time:  The label conservative is a political repellant.  I don't know why, exactly.  But it is what it is.   And this is more than a shame because the principles are right.  All I want to do is keep the principles and lose the label.  Just drop the word from the political lexicon.

In all candor this strategy has worked for our opposition.  They've been socialists for years, but cover it under the "progressive" label.  And guess what, they're winning the future.  Conservatives are bleeding voters.  But "America First" and home grown Americanism --- the stuff of conservative principles --- are bringing them back.

There's nothing wrong with fighting hard and fighting smart, Roamer.  I want us to do both because the times demand it.

That's it.  Movin' on.   :patriot:
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I do @roamer_1 and I did.  I was focused on what was being said, not the bow it was wrapped in.

Well that's hard to tell, @Right_in_Virginia   

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Conservatives are bleeding voters.  But "America First" and home grown Americanism --- the stuff of conservative principles --- are bringing them back.

No, REPUBLICANS are bleeding voters. And 'America First' is not a conservative ideology. It upholds no principle thing.

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There's nothing wrong with fighting hard and fighting smart, Roamer.  I want us to do both because the times demand it.


That's the problem, all y'all are doing is wasting precious time doing nothing.

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Typically, the real neo-Nazi control freaks are on the Left with the rest of the Communists and Socialists (and now, NEW! Improved! With more Muslims!)

@Smokin Joe

Christ was the ORIGINAL Communist. Why else do you think Marx and company saw Christianity as their biggest threat to population and mind control? The more modern KGB didn't have squat over the Vatican Courts when it came to slapping people into line and ruling by fear. Their only advantage was in having a LOT more "priests" to "enforce Holy Doctrine",and more immediate punishment.
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Christ was the ORIGINAL Communist.

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Pssst! you need to read the Book. Your ignorance is showing.

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Once again the 2nd Amendment folks are not making an argument that resonates with half of the nation, including half of Republicans in the Senate.  The other side sounds reasonable, even caring.  On a good day we sound like throwbacks to the wild, wild West.

The younger generation does not have a lick of understanding when it comes to the 2nd Amendment and why it was included in the Constitution.  They know only the Columbines.

Nor do they have any understanding of what has happened after "first they came for your guns, and then your treasure". 

Are there no organizations, no historians, no YouTube gurus to show these "kids" the fire they are playing with?

Talk about completely out of touch with reality where guns and the 2nd Amendment is concerned.   **nononono*
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BWAHAHAHAHA!

Pssst! you need to read the Book. Your ignorance is showing.

@roamer_1 amazing how easily he repeats the leftist trope when it comes to Christ.
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BWAHAHAHAHA!

Pssst! you need to read the Book. Your ignorance is showing.

@roamer_1

That is true for one of us,anyway.
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@roamer_1

That is true for one of us,anyway.

That's right - and I've been reading that book for going on fifty years.

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@roamer_1 amazing how easily he repeats the leftist trope when it comes to Christ.

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What is amazing is that the Christian brainwashing is so thorough that none of you people can see something as obvious as the nose on your face.
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@roamer_1 amazing how easily he repeats the leftist trope when it comes to Christ.

Ain't it though?

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What is amazing is that the Christian brainwashing is so thorough that none of you people can see something as obvious as the nose on your face.

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I am about as far removed from any 'Christian brainwashing' as anyone can be.
What you have said is neither obvious nor true.

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What is amazing is that the Christian brainwashing is so thorough that none of you people can see something as obvious as the nose on your face.

Talk about a textbook definition of projection.
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@Smokin Joe

Christ was the ORIGINAL Communist. Why else do you think Marx and company saw Christianity as their biggest threat to population and mind control? The more modern KGB didn't have squat over the Vatican Courts when it came to slapping people into line and ruling by fear. Their only advantage was in having a LOT more "priests" to "enforce Holy Doctrine",and more immediate punishment.
Wow...had to read that twice to make sure you really typed that.  I have freedom in Christ buddy....
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@Smokin Joe

Christ was the ORIGINAL Communist. Why else do you think Marx and company saw Christianity as their biggest threat to population and mind control? The more modern KGB didn't have squat over the Vatican Courts when it came to slapping people into line and ruling by fear. Their only advantage was in having a LOT more "priests" to "enforce Holy Doctrine",and more immediate punishment.
Seems someone is always forcing someone else to do something and managing to blame Almighty God for their own sins. Consider He made the first people, set them up with a sweet deal, and only said not to eat off one tree and humans managed to screw that up. They've been screwing it up ever since, and blaming Him for it, one way or the other. If I was Him, I'd be pissed, but I'm only human.

You see, the one thing Marx and company don't give is a free will.
Here you are exercising yours, and, like the rest of your natural Rights, He lets you do that, too.  Christ didn't take anything from you, pete, people did. They just blamed Him.
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Wow...had to read that twice to make sure you really typed that.  I have freedom in Christ buddy....

@mrpotatohead

Un,huh. Just like the Soviets had under Stalin,and the  Chinese had under Mao.

A wise man once noted "None are so blind as those who will not see."
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@mrpotatohead

Un,huh. Just like the Soviets had under Stalin,and the  Chinese had under Mao.

A wise man once noted "None are so blind as those who will not see."
He's letting you say what you want, isn't he? Is someone holding a gun to your head? Did your computer go up in smoke? Seen any lightning? Seriously.

Read the last thing you wrote, bro. It's your choice.
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And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses. Nehemiah 4:14 (KJV)

About the only "Big" Liberals don't revile is "Big Government"


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