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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2019, 11:20:24 PM »
If you think I believe we should accept Muslim terrorist as immigrants let me dissuade of that notion right now.  I only applaud immigration by qualified candidates and think it might be a good idea to fill the job vacuum with legal workers instead of illegal border jumpers.  It is my belief that if illegal workers could not find employment here...that would be good.

IMHO, there was a point in time that, that scenario might have worked.  'They' are overwhelmed at the border and the illegal invasion is spiraling out of control; meaning they can't keep up with apprehensions, deportations, tracking and asylum.  So, who knows how many Muslim terrorists are making it through?  I  have lived in this area for nearly 30 years.  I went to the park with my grandson 3 weeks ago and I was absolutely taken by surprise; at least a dozen of the picnic areas were occupied with families of those of Arab descent.  Citizens?  Who knows?? I visit this park frequently and things have changed very quickly and very dramatically.  Perhaps just visiting?  Somehow I doubt it.  I got the feeling that they wanted their presence very known.  I've began to notice a few Arab businesses popping up.  I did a google search for Mosques in the area ... we have several.  So, the point I am making, unless we get our borders closed ... the "qualified" legal people that you are talking about I'm not sure is happening, but the increase in the Muslim population is well underway.  No, not saying they are terrorists ... but the ties and connections are possibilities.  No?

Closing the border completely and declaring a moratorium on ALL migration into this country is our only hope. Without a complete barrier, that is going to be extremely difficult.  IF (and I am very doubtful) we are able to get things under control, limited LEGAL immigration would be in order.  It is absolutely crucial and imperative that we take care of the rapidly increasing ILLEGAL invasion first.  If we don't we lose our country.  We will be another Germany...Merkel needed workers as well.  It sure as heck didn't work out for her.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2019, 11:22:22 PM »
   @libertybele I regret to inform you that it was my TX Sen. Kay Bailey (whom Cruz replaced) that put the golden stake into the Secure Fence Act funding, striped what little was funded for Education. 
   Evil Woman and the guy she replaced Bob Krueger, hometown boy, was much worse. 
  I just cannot possibly believe at this point that anyone in DC, including the Administration, is serious about Immigration Reform, of any kind, whether it be legal or illegal and that has been going on way before Trump got there, he just shamelessly promoted it as a Campaign issue and is getting his butt bit.

It sure seems that way.  We are fast approaching a reality check.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2019, 11:34:23 PM »
Closing the border completely and declaring a moratorium on ALL migration into this country is our only hope.

Good luck with that.  I'm still going to work tomorrow in case all is not lost.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2019, 11:43:08 PM »
    Are you an Immigration Lawyer @Once-Ler not that it makes any difference cause you lost me at Lawyer, but it would clear up a few misconceptions.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2019, 12:11:56 AM »
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President Trump said Wednesday he wants more immigration because U.S. companies need more workers.

What he really means that they need more Cheap Workers. How often have we heard of workers that have been tasked with training their H-1B Cheap replacement workers before they are laid off. There is Not a shortage of workers. There is a shortage of workers that will lower themselves to working for Slave Wages.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2019, 01:35:27 AM »
The amount of LEGAL immigration is already too high. The border too porous, the system too lax on how we process illegals, and the stinging laws too few on employers that hire illegals. 
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2019, 09:43:10 AM »
This is crazy talk.  We don't need more immigration.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2019, 10:29:45 AM »
What he really means that they need more Cheap Workers. How often have we heard of workers that have been tasked with training their H-1B Cheap replacement workers before they are laid off. There is Not a shortage of workers. There is a shortage of workers that will lower themselves to working for Slave Wages.

Why I cannot support Trump.  Its all been a sham on American workers, and citizens.  That we must give welfare to corporations so that they can hire cheap labor over Americans.  I can see filling farm labor (produce) with H1-b labor.  But they continue to raise the number for the H1,2 B programs rapidly, and they only serve to undermine American workers.  They were meant to supply labor only for the jobs which Americans could not fill.  Grossly corrupted program. 

These companies prefer to hire foreign because the taxpayer picks up the tab for social benefits.  It is corporate welfare plain and simple.  So we don't stop illegal immigration and then we call for more legal immigration on top of it.  Raise HB levels and expect Americans to pay what corporations refuse to pay for their workers. 

For one thing the government should require all people offered health insurance through the employer to take it.  Right now the employer allows people to suck off the state even though they are provided insurance through the company.  The state pays everything so why would they want to pay deductible and portions of what is not covered.  Then there are the companies that don't provide anything.  Americans provide it for them to undermine us with foreign labor.  Now we even pay for migrant women and men to take family leave while they are here.  We need to change the laws that force Americans to support immigrants.  That reward corporations with welfare for hiring illegal or Visa foreign workers.

Trump is so wrong.  Illegal immigrants are pouring into the country.  That is plenty more cheap labor and burden to the American citizens then we need for a very long time.

Social benefits need to stop for foreign workers period.  If Asylum is granted then perhaps for a short period and then they provide for themselves.  Period.  People should not have open ended social benefits.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2019, 10:32:35 AM »
This is crazy talk.  We don't need more immigration.

Absolutely.  ALL immigration into this country needs to end, including asylum, until we can secure our borders, find out who is here and reform immigration policies.  Once under control, then perhaps a closely monitored quota system, allowing so many qualified people from various countries to entry this country legally could be implemented.

Otherwise we will continue to have one crisis and one caravan after another at our borders.  What we are doing and what we've done in the past isn't working.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2019, 10:34:43 AM »
Stop paying able-bodied people to just sit on their ass and you'll find plenty of available workers.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2019, 10:44:48 AM »
Stop paying able-bodied people to just sit on their ass and you'll find plenty of available workers.

I believe his intent at this point in time is to flood this country with legal immigrants who he feels will contribute to making America great.  What he is missing I believe is the fact that those already here don't want to assimilate and want to remain a hyphenated American.  Why would he expect those coming in legally would be any different?  Those hyphenated Americans in Congress are a prime example of those not willing to assimilate fully to America.  That IS a huge problem.  One that will only hasten the demise of this Republic that is already on the brink.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2019, 03:32:58 PM »
   Yea, @Chosen Daughter but he had no choice, he was 'running a business'.
   I'd bet he wrote off that weekend in LA w Stormy as a business expense.

   Some of us NT'ers empathize with her.

More deceitful LEFT propaganda. STORMY was extorting money from someone famous. She was sued by TRUMP..and LOST...NOW SHE HAS TO PAY TRUMP..ABOUT 300 THOUSAND DOLLARS for her extortion.  Why do NT'S always want to believe SMUT?  You thrive on it.  No proof, it just has to be said and YOU believe it.  NO DISCERNMENT. NO CRITICAL THINKING. You love to wallow in dirt.   :2popcorn:

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2019, 09:32:55 PM »
    Are you an Immigration Lawyer @Once-Ler not that it makes any difference cause you lost me at Lawyer, but it would clear up a few misconceptions.
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No but I have seen My Cousin Vinny over a dozen times.

Immigration is an issue I have had to deal with over many years.  My great grandparents on both sides immigrated from Poland in the early 1900s.  My wife has duel citizenship with England.  My sister-in-law married a Dutch man and worked in businesses both here and in the Netherlands.  My children have gone to schools and befriended anchor babies.  I've worked as a manager or supervisor in automotive, janitorial, and fast food...lots of illegals in those businesses...some of them I call friends.

I've seen how difficult just getting a work visa can be through my in-laws.  I've seen my children say goodbye to friends deported.  I've worked side by side with illegals who just want to provide a stable home for their family, and they don't look like the welfare and job sucking infectious gangbangers Mark Levin warns me about.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2019, 09:42:38 PM »
Stop paying able-bodied people to just sit on their ass and you'll find plenty of available workers.
To quote the President of the United States Donald J. Trump "bu11sh1t."

Unemployment is below 5%.  Anybody who wants a job can find a job.  The unemployed today are antisocial and mental rejects.  Some are drug addicted, some have violent criminal records, and other are to lazy to show up.  Bring on the hard working immigrants who don't steal or threaten customers.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2019, 10:11:26 PM »
Speaking in terms of a game of Chess.
The best move Trump could make at this point, is to come out FULL FORWARD in favor of the AOC Green New Deal.
Democrats hate it, ergo, Trump should embrace it.

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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2019, 10:14:47 PM »
Trump know more than I ever will about playing politics. He knows that I am right.
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I have no comment...I just wanted to repeat your post.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2019, 10:25:18 PM »
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No but I have seen My Cousin Vinny over a dozen times.

Immigration is an issue I have had to deal with over many years.  My great grandparents on both sides immigrated from Poland in the early 1900s.  My wife has duel citizenship with England.  My sister-in-law married a Dutch man and worked in businesses both here and in the Netherlands.  My children have gone to schools and befriended anchor babies.  I've worked as a manager or supervisor in automotive, janitorial, and fast food...lots of illegals in those businesses...some of them I call friends.

I've seen how difficult just getting a work visa can be through my in-laws.  I've seen my children say goodbye to friends deported.  I've worked side by side with illegals who just want to provide a stable home for their family, and they don't look like the welfare and job sucking infectious gangbangers Mark Levin warns me about.

Oh, stop I can't handle it. 

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2019, 10:33:45 PM »
Oh, stop I can't handle it. 
It's weird how not panicked I am about immigration huh?
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2019, 10:36:55 PM »
@240B
I have no comment...I just wanted to repeat your post.
Look man, the 'Old Boys' Democrats are all multimillionaire status-quo people. They hate change. They hate progress. The worst thing that Trump could do to them is to show them that 'change' is inevitable.

All he has to do is to be 'different' and unpredictable. HARUMPH...HARUMPH...I say old boy, I think this new commer is shaking the boat. What say all?
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2019, 10:52:06 PM »
Look man, the 'Old Boys' Democrats are all multimillionaire status-quo people. They hate change. They hate progress. The worst thing that Trump could do to them is to show them that 'change' is inevitable.

All he has to do is to be 'different' and unpredictable. HARUMPH...HARUMPH...I say old boy, I think this new commer is shaking the boat. What say all?
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Record deficits, trade policy favoritism, corruption, and failure to hold previous administrations accountable is new.  Great point.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2019, 11:09:36 PM »
@240B
Record deficits, trade policy favoritism, corruption, and failure to hold previous administrations accountable is new.  Great point.
All of that existed well before Trump came on the scene. Hussein gave $150,000,000,000,000 to his buddies in Iran simply because his Iranian "Mommy" Jarrett told him to do it.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2019, 11:58:09 PM »
All of that existed well before Trump came on the scene. Hussein gave $150,000,000,000,000 to his buddies in Iran simply because his Iranian "Mommy" Jarrett told him to do it.
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I don't understand.  What is the change and progress?
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2019, 05:01:20 AM »
Good luck with that.  I'm still going to work tomorrow in case all is not lost.
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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2019, 09:34:42 PM »
Speaking in terms of a game of Chess.
The best move Trump could make at this point, is to come out FULL FORWARD in favor of the AOC Green New Deal.
Democrats hate it, ergo, Trump should embrace it.

Trump knows more than I ever will about playing politics. He knows that I am right.


He already did that at CPAC 2019.   March 2, 2019. I hope this is the full speech.

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Re: Trump calls for more immigration
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2019, 04:28:35 PM »
Trump just lost my vote.

I am so tired of hearing we need more foreign workers in the USA, while we jettison Americans from their jobs for low salary foreign workers.

TRUMP HAS BETRAYED AMERICA WITH THIS POSITION.  HE IS NOW PART OF THE ANTI AMERICAN SWAMP THAT WANTS AMERICA SUBSEVIENT TO THE NWO.

America is lost.


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