Wheels turning on infrastructure bill in rare moment of Trump-Democratic cooperation

[Right_in_Virginia]

We shall soon find how this pans out.  When he took Giuliani in to assist him, red flags came up as the potential for a North American Union came to mind.  According to stats there aren't enough people to fill the job openings ...so where are 'they' going to get their labor force to rebuild?? 

I have never doubted Pres. Trump's ability to get this economy moving and rebuilding this country, but I also stated that we may not like how he does it.

Sorry ... but this post is rather scattered.  Have you a point to make about my comment?

[MoMo]

Just the name Ivanka sends some of you into a completely different orbit. Its childish and probably misogynist since most of ya are just a bunch of old guys that want to control women. 

[corbe]

   The AMA recommends that you put down the Koolaid @MoMo

[Sanguine]

Just the name Ivanka sends some of you into a completely different orbit. Its childish and probably misogynist since most of ya are just a bunch of old guys that want to control women.

Speak for yourself.   

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

   Ivanka and the dems plan smell a lot like a sequel to this:  American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009

Sequel?

By using continuing resolutions instead of actually passing a budget, we've spent that "2009" money every year since.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Just the name Ivanka sends some of you into a completely different orbit. Its childish and probably misogynist since most of ya are just a bunch of old guys that want to control women.

Wow, thanks!  I was silly enough to think I was just worried about a few more trillions in debt.

[sneakypete]

Tell 'em Bernie.

@catfish1957

Ok,what with you being a genius and all,how bout splain to use common people how it is cheaper to rebuild neglected infrastructure that it is to repair it?

Maybe you think there is a infrastructure fairy that can just wander around waving a wand and make it all betta?

Then again,who the hell really needs safe bridges and smooth roads? 

[sneakypete]

Not true. Had infrastructure money actually been SPENT ON INFRASTRUCTURE in the past, we would have little to repair.

 

@roamer_1

Say WHAT? You realize you are agreeing with him while saying he is wrong,right?

[sneakypete]

Let me give you some advise junior.  Anything the federal government gets its fingers into can expect to have  90% of the funds wasted.   

Leave the infrastructure repairs to the state and local governement where it belongs.

@catfish1957

ROFLMAO! Causen the local thieves are MUCH more competent and honest than the federal thieves,right?

[aligncare]

Quote from: catfish1957 on March 02, 2019, 08:02:35 PM

Let me give you some advise junior.  Anything the federal government gets its fingers into can expect to have  90% of the funds wasted.

Leave the infrastructure repairs to the state and local governement where it belongs.

@catfish1957

ROFLMAO! Causen the local thieves are MUCH more competent and honest than the federal thieves,right?

It’s more than just money wasted once an amount is appropriated,. Because it’s a government contract, and expenses are padded at every level, project bids come in already higher than private industry would pay for construction work and materials.

The average cost to build a highway varies by state and region, but in states like New York and New Jersey and cities like Boston, Philadelphia and Los Angeles it can cost 2000% higher than the actual real-world costs, and all due to political graft in the form of campaign donations back from the ridiculously high overpayments to plugged-in donors and their companies.

FAQs answered here at the American Road and Transportation Builders Association https://www.artba.org/about/faq/

A Washington, D.C.-based American Road & Transportation Builders Association (ARTBA) is a non-partisan federation whose primary goal is to aggressively grow and protect transportation infrastructure investment to meet the public and business demand for safe and efficient travel.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Say WHAT? You realize you are agreeing with him while saying he is wrong,right?

Nope. Nor does it matter @sneakypete .

WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Damn straight.  Trump is not a fiscal conservative.   Yes, we are screwed.

This "fiscal conservative" is folklore.  Not even Reagan was a fiscal conservative. 

[Dexter]

I think repairing our shit before it gets even more expensive to fix is a fiscally conservative decision.

[XenaLee]

This "fiscal conservative" is folklore.  Not even Reagan was a fiscal conservative.

It's certainly not "folklore".  Just because conservatism has been demonized, marginalized and virtually ignored by most idiots in DC does not mean it doesn't exist.  And it's probably the only thing that will or would save this nation from the rabid left... but alas, too many (like you?) would never embrace it.  So we're screwed.

[roamer_1]

It's certainly not "folklore".  Just because conservatism has been demonized, marginalized and virtually ignored by most idiots in DC does not mean it doesn't exist.  And it's probably the only thing that will or would save this nation from the rabid left... but alas, too many (like you?) would never embrace it.  So we're screwed.

BUMP THAT!!!

[roamer_1]

I think repairing our shit before it gets even more expensive to fix is a fiscally conservative decision.

We do not have the money. Maybe BEFORE they spent what, now, five trillion dollars you might have had a point. Not no more.

[libertybele]

We do not have the money. Maybe BEFORE they spent what, now, five trillion dollars you might have had a point. Not no more.

Repair our infrastructure?  How about building the darn wall first???

[roamer_1]

Repair our infrastructure?  How about building the darn wall first???

You and I both know that ain't gonna happen.

[libertybele]

You and I both know that ain't gonna happen.

No, it is not going to happen.  His supporters were duped. Many refuse to see it. I did see some hope when he stated he was bringing the military to the border to assist with the caravans at the border, but then he pushed for a wall just before the new Congress was going to be sworn it. He caved to the left on the gov't shutdown.  So, it was all smoke and mirrors and a horse and pony show.

[Dexter]

No, it is not going to happen.  His supporters were duped. Many refuse to see it. I did see some hope when he stated he was bringing the military to the border to assist with the caravans at the border, but then he pushed for a wall just before the new Congress was going to be sworn it. He caved to the left on the gov't shutdown.  So, it was all smoke and mirrors and a horse and pony show.

Do you think it's more likely that Trump never had the intentions he claimed or that the powers that be set him straight and made sure he wouldn't have any wind in his sails?

[roamer_1]

So, it was all smoke and mirrors and a horse and pony show.

Yep. The Garden Path, as predicted all the way along.
And someone else's fault, watch and see.

[libertybele]

Do you think it's more likely that Trump never had the intentions he claimed or that the powers that be set him straight and made sure he wouldn't have any wind in his sails?

Well, that's a very good question.  During the campaign I felt that Trump decided to jump into the arena in order to eliminate Cruz. Trump ridiculed and even lied about those he was running against, but never went after Hillary.  The debates between he and Clinton were mild in comparison. He made a mockery of the election process really.

I accepted the fact that he won and was elated that he had also defeated Clinton. He still never went after her.  He then appointed Rosenstein who is in the Clinton circle and I knew then she'd never be held responsible. So the 'lock her up' slogan that he repeated was in my opinion not truly meant, it was a way to rally his crowd.

He's done some good for the economy.  He's pumped some $$ into the military and he's taken the restrictions off of our soldiers. He's been patriotic to an extent and I believe we are once again respected around the world.  He walked back some of the Bammy era destruction.

His #1 promise the wall has failed bigly.  IF indeed his infrastructure plans includes creating the NAU (as I have suspected since he brought on Giuliani), then I can say without a doubt that he never intended to build the wall, nor secure our borders.  Which leads me to believe that my original hunch is that his sole purpose was to defect Cruz and keep his pal Clinton safe and allow the DEMS to move forward.

We shall see.

[Right_in_Virginia]

It's certainly not "folklore".  Just because conservatism has been demonized, marginalized and virtually ignored by most idiots in DC does not mean it doesn't exist.  And it's probably the only thing that will or would save this nation from the rabid left... but alas, too many (like you?) would never embrace it.  So we're screwed.

Let me rephrase ... this fiscal conservative *in political office" is folklore.  Not even Reagan was a fiscal conservative.