Socialism talk will sink Democrats: How left-wing overreach could backfire big-time in 2020

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Socialism talk will sink Democrats: How left-wing overreach could backfire big-time in 2020
By Richard Cohen
Feb 25, 2019 | 8:00 PM



I don’t quite know what a handbasket is, but the Democratic Party is heading in one to electoral hell with its talk of socialism and reparations. Given a Republican incumbent who has never exceeded 50% in Gallup’s approval ratings poll and who won the presidency thanks to a dysfunctional Electoral College, the party is nevertheless determined to give Donald Trump a fair shot at re-election by sabotaging itself. In fact, it’s veering so far to the left it could lose an election in 1950s Bulgaria.

Democratic socialist ideas appear to be making significant headway in the party. The Democratic part is fine, the socialism part is not. It suggests a massive government intrusion in the economy that has not worked elsewhere — post-war Great Britain or that contemporary mess called Venezuela — and that, in a cultural sense, is un-American. Time and time again, the American people have shown they want nothing to do with socialism. While socialist movements have at times been politically strong in Europe, such has not been the case in America. This, in fact, is one of the original meanings of the phrase “American exceptionalism.”

If Americans are not about to embrace socialism, they certainly are not about to support reparations. This proposal, which seems to have come out of nowhere, has the support of Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Julian Castro and Marianne Williamson. This supposed redress for slavery — nothing can redress slavery — polls abysmally. Sixty-eight percent of Americans oppose making payments to descendants of slaves, and 72% oppose paying reparations to African-Americans in general. Among whites, 81% oppose payments to descendants of slaves.

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[Fishrrman]

Surprising that Richard Cohen would write this.
Surprising that the New York Daily News (of late a mouthpiece for the democrat-communists) would print it.

Could they be worried about something...?

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Pushing "independents" (I hate that term, as if there's only two parties) to vote republican, providing "proof" that the road to "victory" is by appealing to the "moderate" voters.

[roamer_1]

Pushing "independents" (I hate that term, as if there's only two parties) to vote republican, providing "proof" that the road to "victory" is by appealing to the "moderate" voters.

Most Conservatives and Libertarians are outside of the Republican party. To suggest that independent voters are moderates is a mistake.

[Cyber Liberty]

... who won the presidency thanks to a dysfunctional Electoral College

I'd say it worked perfectly as planned.  Cohen is an idiot, always has been.  I hope the Rats ignore him as well as I do.

[Idiot]

I’m not convinced that socialism will sink them.  All I have to do is talk to my nieces attending college and it scares the crap out me.  They’d go along with most if not all the dems are proposing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Dan Bongino
Verified accountï‚™ @dbongino 

It’s breathtaking to watch the Democrats go all-in on infanticide, bankruptcy, 70-90% tax rates, reparations, open borders, government-controlled healthcare, cow assassination squads, sky-high gas prices, police-state spying, and gun confiscation. Simply unbelievable to watch.

3:39 PM - 26 Feb 2019

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1100540955675881472

[Idiot]

Wow...a lot of truth right there.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wow...a lot of truth right there.

I know.  Wish we could fit this on a bumper sticker.

[goatprairie]

I’m not convinced that socialism will sink them.  All I have to do is talk to my nieces attending college and it scares the crap out me.  They’d go along with most if not all the dems are proposing.

Socialism has always appealed more to females than males.  A government that takes care of everybody is what a lot of them like.  Your nieces are like my three sisters. They have absolutely no conception of why they live great lives in America thanks to our soon to be demolished free enterprise system.
Add the fact that females are more likely than males to believe stories/lies about "white privilege" and "oppressed minorities" and you have large segment of the population who are quite willing to trash the system that made America great for myth of a workable, socialist society.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

I’m not convinced that socialism will sink them.  All I have to do is talk to my nieces attending college and it scares the crap out me.  They’d go along with most if not all the dems are proposing.

Ever ask them who is going to pay the bill for our generations' socialism?  Do they really want to pay for all of their "free" stuff, when they already have to pay for ours?

[Dexter]

Ever ask them who is going to pay the bill for our generations' socialism?  Do they really want to pay for all of their "free" stuff, when they already have to pay for ours?

I think many young people that aren't avid followers of politics probably don't think deeper than "I can't afford good healthcare or housing and the only way I can go to college is by going into severe student loan debt while hoping I'm smart enough to make it." They vote for whoever promises to alleviate some or all of those problems.

They're not asking for totalitarian socialism where the government takes over the private sector. They're not asking for everybody to make the same amount of money. They're struggling and they don't want to struggle so much; that's what they know and what they want.

[roamer_1]

I think many young people that aren't avid followers of politics probably don't think deeper than "I can't afford good healthcare or housing and the only way I can go to college is by going into severe student loan debt while hoping I'm smart enough to make it." They vote for whoever promises to alleviate some or all of those problems.

That is exactly the wrong way to think. Where is your sense of rugged individualism? Where is your ability to do for yourself? To make it in spite of your problems? Were I to think like you, I would not have spent 5 years climbing out of a wheelchair and learning how to walk again. I'd have never got out of that damnable thing at all.

Sometimes goes along gets along. Sometimes it takes every ounce of everything you've got... And sometimes all you've got left is damn mean, and often times that is enough. If you don;t even try, and expect your living to be handed to you, then you deserve to fail.

They're not asking for totalitarian socialism where the government takes over the private sector. They're not asking for everybody to make the same amount of money. They're struggling and they don't want to struggle so much; that's what they know and what they want.

YES!! you are asking EXACTLY for totalitarian socialism!

Liberty IS struggle.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I think many young people that aren't avid followers of politics probably don't think deeper than "I can't afford good healthcare or housing and the only way I can go to college is by going into severe student loan debt while hoping I'm smart enough to make it." They vote for whoever promises to alleviate some or all of those problems.

They're not asking for totalitarian socialism where the government takes over the private sector. They're not asking for everybody to make the same amount of money. They're struggling and they don't want to struggle so much; that's what they know and what they want. 

How the hell are young, educated, able-bodied people struggling so damn much in a booming economy that they're embracing socialism @Dexter ?  I don't give a furry rat's rear that you all don't want the government to take over the private sector and every aspect of your lives .... this is what you're going to get.  And you're going to drag the rest of us down with you, so now it's personal.

Where is it written that you and your generation should not have a single debt or a single responsibility?  Did you know the definition of "loan" when you signed the papers and took the money? 

Where is it written that yours is the generation that can opt out of sacrifice to achieve their goals? Where is it written that yours is the generation that shall never grow up and accept responsibility for your own damn lives? 

If you think you're having a rough time of it now, God help you when you run out of other people's money.

[LMAO]

Socialism has always appealed more to females than males.  A government that takes care of everybody is what a lot of them like.  Your nieces are like my three sisters. They have absolutely no conception of why they live great lives in America thanks to our soon to be demolished free enterprise system.
Add the fact that females are more likely than males to believe stories/lies about "white privilege" and "oppressed minorities" and you have large segment of the population who are quite willing to trash the system that made America great for myth of a workable, socialist society.

I have a sister that in her college years thought the same way. But time and experience, plus  getting a job with a paycheck, tempered a lot of that.

Conservatives believe that young people embracing liberalism is  new.  It was the same way when I was in college. Young people lack life  experience and they tend to be naïve

[Cyber Liberty]

How the hell are young, educated, able-bodied people struggling so damn much in a booming economy that they're embracing socialism @Dexter ? 

Tattoos are expensive.

[Bill Cipher]

I think many young people that aren't avid followers of politics probably don't think deeper than "I can't afford good healthcare or housing and the only way I can go to college is by going into severe student loan debt while hoping I'm smart enough to make it." They vote for whoever promises to alleviate some or all of those problems.

They're not asking for totalitarian socialism where the government takes over the private sector. They're not asking for everybody to make the same amount of money. They're struggling and they don't want to struggle so much; that's what they know and what they want.

But totalitarianism is what they will get, and that’s so blatantly evident from history that they can be held accountable for that knowledge.  Or perhaps voting intelligently is just too damned hard for 20-somethings and the voting age should be raised. 

[LMAO]

How the hell are young, educated, able-bodied people struggling so damn much in a booming economy that they're embracing socialism @Dexter ?  I don't give a furry rat's rear that you all don't want the government to take over the private sector and every aspect of your lives .... this is what you're going to get.  And you're going to drag the rest of us down with you, so now it's personal.

Where is it written that you and your generation should not have a single debt or a single responsibility?  Did you know the definition of "loan" when you signed the papers and took the money? 

Where is it written that yours is the generation that can opt out of sacrifice to achieve their goals? Where is it written that yours is the generation that shall never grow up and accept responsibility for your own damn lives? 

If you think you're having a rough time of it now, God help you when you run out of other people's money.

@Right_in_Virginia

 

 After being discharged from the Army, I went to college were I met my wife and we got married out of college, with big student loan debt, and not long after that babies arrived. The first few years were quite a struggle, especially when she was home and I worked extra hours when the kids were babies  so she could stay home with them until they started school.  But we survived, and I would say thrived.

Young people today have a massive sense of entitlement. But that’s what happens when everyone gets a participation trophy as kids.  They become entitled adults where they believe every election should go their way and colleges should protect them from  other beliefs and opinions

[sneakypete]

The left obviously thinks they have imported enough clueless peasants looking for free handouts,and miseducated enough young adults that they can actually win by running hard-left.

I strongly suspect a large part of this is due to the ageing/aged "True Believers" from the 60's that bought into the Black Panthers and "Revolution NOW!" nonsense suddenly realizing their "best if used by" date has already expired,and NEED a win to feel like they haven't wasted their lives.

And I hope they are ALL crushed enough by their loss to be suicidal and act on it.

As was true in the 30's,it is still true now that "the only good Communist is a dead Communist."

[sneakypete]

I’m not convinced that socialism will sink them.  All I have to do is talk to my nieces attending college and it scares the crap out me.  They’d go along with most if not all the dems are proposing.

@mrpotatohead

That is common amongst people who are "all education and no practical experience in life". It may take a while for reality to set it,how long depending on their occupations after college,but for most it will become clear to them when they start itemizing their tax bills each year and start to wonder why THEY can't save any money will paying the indigent to live a life of retirement with free medical care,food,housing,etc,etc,etc.

[Dexter]

That is exactly the wrong way to think. Where is your sense of rugged individualism? Where is your ability to do for yourself? To make it in spite of your problems? Were I to think like you, I would not have spent 5 years climbing out of a wheelchair and learning how to walk again. I'd have never got out of that damnable thing at all.

I did for myself, and believe it or not I'm a lot less left wing than most of my peers. I just see it all around me because of my generation, so I was trying to give you some insight into the young left mind. I lean left, but I'm not plagued by hopelessness and despair like a lot of other young people.

Sometimes goes along gets along. Sometimes it takes every ounce of everything you've got... And sometimes all you've got left is damn mean, and often times that is enough. If you don;t even try, and expect your living to be handed to you, then you deserve to fail.

YES!! you are asking EXACTLY for totalitarian socialism!

Liberty IS struggle.

If something big doesn't happen soon the fear of the word socialism will diminish to the point that politicians calling themselves such will be elected in great numbers. Young people aren't afraid of it at all.

[sneakypete]

Dan Bongino
Verified accountï‚™ @dbongino 

It’s breathtaking to watch the Democrats go all-in on infanticide, bankruptcy, 70-90% tax rates, reparations, open borders, government-controlled healthcare, cow assassination squads, sky-high gas prices, police-state spying, and gun confiscation. Simply unbelievable to watch.

@Right_in_Virginia

What gives me brain freeze and convinces me they are all legally insane is they all STILL think the brown and black hordes of illiterate and unskilled leftists they are importing into the country will be content to leave these white/Jewish "leaders" in office.

These people are dedicated communist dictators,and they aren't familiar with the term "Revolution",or somehow think it doesn't apply to THEIR rule BECAUSE they are white/Jewish elitists that know better than anyone else what they need?

[sneakypete]

I think many young people that aren't avid followers of politics probably don't think deeper than "I can't afford good healthcare or housing and the only way I can go to college is by going into severe student loan debt while hoping I'm smart enough to make it." They vote for whoever promises to alleviate some or all of those problems.

They're not asking for totalitarian socialism where the government takes over the private sector. They're not asking for everybody to make the same amount of money. They're struggling and they don't want to struggle so much; that's what they know and what they want.

@Dexter

Those people would have benefited from being given an allowance as a child,and summer jobs of some sort in the summer,and then made to live withing their budget and save a little money to boot. After all,they are living and eating for free at home,so they don't really need a lot of money. What they DO need is the lesson in reality a budget will give them.

[Dexter]

How the hell are young, educated, able-bodied people struggling so damn much in a booming economy that they're embracing socialism @Dexter ?

Being a young person today maybe isn't as easy as older people think it is, despite how the stock market looks and the fact that most people have a smart phone. I very much disagree with the sentiment that my generation is just lazy. Wages don't go as far as they did 30-40 years ago. A lot of them really do have to struggle a lot to stay afloat. Y'all don't actually know what it's like to start out in the world today. You can only speculate and make assumptions based on your experiences.

Where is it written that you and your generation should not have a single debt or a single responsibility?  Did you know the definition of "loan" when you signed the papers and took the money? 

Where is it written that yours is the generation that can opt out of sacrifice to achieve their goals? Where is it written that yours is the generation that shall never grow up and accept responsibility for your own damn lives? 

If you think you're having a rough time of it now, God help you when you run out of other people's money.

Maybe young people are struggling more than you give them credit for. None of that is written anywhere, but it won't stop people from voting for something different.

[roamer_1]

If something big doesn't happen soon the fear of the word socialism will diminish to the point that politicians calling themselves such will be elected in great numbers. Young people aren't afraid of it at all.

In part you may be right, because your indoctrination is much deeper and multi-faceted that it was for the hippies who brought this crap here.  But by and large, the youth are naive and facile, easily bent by that indoctrination.

But here's the deal: Shortly after exiting the ivory towers of college, the real world comes right up to them and mugs em with a 2x4 to the head. You learn mighty soon that the big bad world doesn't owe you a single damn thing, and you better fight like hell or there won't be any food on the table tonight for your kids. Your generation is not immune to that 2x4. It's coming. And many, many of your generation will change their minds the hard way.