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With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« on: February 24, 2019, 02:52:36 pm »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/24/military-draft-judge-rules-male-only-registration-unconstitutional/2968872002/

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A federal judge in Texas has declared that the all-male military draft is unconstitutional, ruling that "the time has passed" for a debate on whether women belong in the military.

The decision deals the biggest legal blow to the Selective Service System since the Supreme Court upheld the draft in 1981. In Rostker v. Goldberg, the court ruled that the male-only draft was "fully justified" because women were ineligible for combat roles.

But U.S. District Judge Gray Miller ruled late Friday that while historical restrictions on women serving in combat "may have justified past discrimination," men and women are now equally able to fight. In 2015, the Pentagon lifted all restrictions for women in military service.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 03:28:35 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 03:37:12 pm »
Texas Judge.  Must be a Shrub appointee.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 04:05:16 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on February 24, 2019, 03:37:12 pm
Texas Judge.  Must be a Shrub appointee.

Ayup.  From Wiki:

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On January 25, 2006, Miller was nominated by President Bush to be a United States District Judge for the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas in place of Judge Ewing Werlein, Jr. who had taken senior status in 2006. He was confirmed unanimously by the Senate on April 25, 2006 and received his commission the same day. He assumed senior status on December 9, 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_H._Miller
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2019, 04:14:08 pm »
Nope, women should be held sacred (and I have only boys)...
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2019, 04:21:13 pm »
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Nope, women should be held sacred (and I have only boys)...

For real?
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 04:28:27 pm »
Quote from: Sighlass on February 24, 2019, 04:14:08 pm
Nope, women should be held sacred (and I have only boys)...

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Women want to be in combat & considered the same as men.  This was going to be the result all along.

Sucks for all of the females who don’t want it, but it’s what happens when society humors this stupid crap in the interest of making the armed services into a social experiment.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2019, 04:28:29 pm »
A Texas judge who hasn't had sex in more than a few years.    happy77
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2019, 04:35:23 pm »
Quote from: QueenCatofAragon on February 24, 2019, 04:28:27 pm
@Sighlass

Women want to be in combat & considered the same as men.  This was going to be the result all along.

Sucks for all of the females who don’t want it, but it’s what happens when society humors this stupid crap in the interest of making the armed services into a social experiment.

I agree, @QueenCatofAragon.  Sometimes you get what you wish for.   
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2019, 04:37:52 pm »
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I agree, @QueenCatofAragon.  Sometimes you get what you wish for.

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I’m glad I don’t have a daughter.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2019, 04:40:54 pm »
Quote from: QueenCatofAragon on February 24, 2019, 04:37:52 pm
@Sanguine

I’m glad I don’t have a daughter.

I do.  And granddaughters.  It's a rough world.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2019, 04:58:57 pm »
Quote from: Dexter on February 24, 2019, 04:21:13 pm
For real?

Yes, for real ,,, still some of us that believe women are to be protected, not put on the front line (or thereabouts).
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2019, 05:00:37 pm »
Quote from: QueenCatofAragon on February 24, 2019, 04:28:27 pm
@Sighlass

Sucks for all of the females who don’t want it, but it’s what happens when society humors this stupid crap in the interest of making the armed services into a social experiment.

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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2019, 05:06:13 pm »
Quote from: QueenCatofAragon on February 24, 2019, 04:28:27 pm
@Sighlass

Women want to be in combat & considered the same as men.  This was going to be the result all along.

Sucks for all of the females who don’t want it, but it’s what happens when society humors this stupid crap in the interest of making the armed services into a social experiment.

Hmmmm.... doesn't seem to be a problem for Israel.   :shrug:
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2019, 05:14:40 pm »
I support universal national service. Perhaps just one year.

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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2019, 05:16:25 pm »
Quote from: Sighlass on February 24, 2019, 04:58:57 pm
Yes, for real ,,, still some of us that believe women are to be protected, not put on the front line (or thereabouts).

And yet, there are many among us who think you're wrong, and need to be forced (by law, if necessary) to see it the way they want you to.  For real.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2019, 05:18:27 pm »
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Hmmmm.... doesn't seem to be a problem for Israel.   :shrug:

@DCPatriot not so sure that’s a point that bolsters your argument:

“Women currently make up 3% of the IDF's combat soldiers. Women were employed in full combat roles during the War of Independence and early years. An incident involving the abuse of a woman's corpse led to their withdrawal from full combat until 2000, when the Caracal Battalion was raised...

Despite being officially classified as combat soldiers, women in combat roles are not deliberately deployed into combat situations. They are expected to respond in the event a combat situation does erupt, but are not deployed to situations where there is a high risk of combat.”  From wiki.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2019, 05:26:50 pm »
Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile.

Wishful thinking I suppose, but maybe this could make future presidential and congressional leaders reevaluate whether a conflict is worth getting into when we tear mothers away from their infants to go and fight. A father’s absence doesn’t impact an infant like it does a mother’s.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2019, 05:32:04 pm »
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Hmmmm.... doesn't seem to be a problem for Israel.   :shrug:

@DCPatriot

I see @Axeslinger beat me to it, lol.

If you had a male relative—son, brother, father—in active combat, who got wounded, would you want his life to depend on a woman carrying him off the battlefield?

I sure wouldn’t.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2019, 05:35:14 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2019, 05:16:25 pm
And yet, there are many among us who think you're wrong, and need to be forced (by law, if necessary) to see it the way they want you to.  For real.

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EDIT: Well guess they didn't like me posting a picture of Gaddafi (with his Amazon women warriors)
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2019, 05:37:17 pm »
Well if they want equal rights, this comes with the territory.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2019, 05:47:32 pm »
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I fully understand...



EDIT: Well guess they didn't like me posting a picture of Gaddafi (with his Amazon women warriors)

Try posting a link to the image, rather than hot-linking with the "[img]" command.  Just post the URL.
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Re: With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2019, 05:53:01 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 24, 2019, 04:40:54 pm
I do.  And granddaughters.  It's a rough world.

There will likely never be another draft, so this is mostly just symbolic.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2019, 05:53:30 pm »
Quote from: QueenCatofAragon on February 24, 2019, 05:32:04 pm
@DCPatriot

I see @Axeslinger beat me to it, lol.

If you had a male relative—son, brother, father—in active combat, who got wounded, would you want his life to depend on a woman carrying him off the battlefield?

I sure wouldn’t.

Depends on the woman.  There are quite a few at the right-hand section of the Bell Curve for physical strength.  The problem with that is, the Feminists will demand the standards for physical fitness be lowered to allow a gal who's 5 foot 2 inches to serve in combat, so that's where I have to end up agreeing with your premise.
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2019, 05:54:02 pm »
Quote from: Sighlass on February 24, 2019, 04:58:57 pm
Yes, for real ,,, still some of us that believe women are to be protected, not put on the front line (or thereabouts).

I think men should be held sacred and protected too.
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