Author Topic: This is not a national emergency: Congress must update the National Emergency Act  (Read 8158 times)

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The democrats are going to do what they're going to do.  They may blame Trump, they may blame any number of loosely related or not at all related people and issue.

Thats right. And when all is said and done they'll still be accountable to the voters.

I'm guessing voters will look more kindly on an executive who attempted to staunch the flow of illegals and drugs into their country than they will on an executive who attempted to destroy their standard of living to solve a problem posited by an unproven theory.

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It's an emergency that is.....impending .... since...
I'll complete your sentence.

It's and emergency since 1986 law passed by Congress provided amnesty but Congress failed to execute its commitment under that same law to restrict illegal immigration.

Does an emergency stop being an emergency due to inaction?
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And that is exactly the excuse the democrats will use in 2021 when the next democrat president declares climate change a national emergency, following the new Trump precedent. 

Will you be as supportive then as you are now of Trump’s brainchild?

Which is your primary concern?

1.The substance of this use?

2. It is Trump using it?

3. Fear the democrats might use it in the future?

You know it has been used dozens of times since 1976? You think those uses were "emergencies," but this is not?
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And that is exactly the excuse the democrats will use in 2021 when the next democrat president declares climate change a national emergency, following the new Trump precedent. 

Will you be as supportive then as you are now of Trump’s brainchild?

No.... hell no.  I never support ANY thing the godless, lying, idiot left (DemocRats) want or do.  I'm just funny that way.  You?

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I'll complete your sentence.

It's and emergency since 1986 law passed by Congress provided amnesty but Congress failed to execute its commitment under that same law to restrict illegal immigration.

Does an emergency stop being an emergency due to inaction?

Nope.  Quite the contrary.
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No.... hell no.  I never support ANY thing the godless, lying, idiot left (DemocRats) want or do.  I'm just funny that way.  You?



So you’re no better than they; all you care about is a result, no matter how illegally the result was obtained. 

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So you’re no better than they; all you care about is a result, no matter how illegally the result was obtained.

You sure are slaying the heck outta that straw man.

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So you’re no better than they; all you care about is a result, no matter how illegally the result was obtained.

What's illegal?  You don't know what the hell you're bleating about....

obviously.
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all you care about is a result, no matter how illegally the result was obtained.

What's being illegally obtained @Bill Cipher   Be specific.

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The democrats are going to do what they're going to do.  They may blame Trump, they may blame any number of loosely related or not at all related people and issue.

If, God forbid, Trump were to be assassinated they'd find a way to blame him.
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If, God forbid, Trump were to be assassinated they'd find a way to blame him.

They'd be too busy celebrating and pissing on his grave to think to assign blame.
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A uniformed army under the flag and protection of another sovereign power has entered the U.S. without permission with the intent of occupying land and governing it under laws that were not validly enacted by the federal and state governments?
With that definition, no act of terrorism is an emergency.  The people who brought down the twin towers and inflicted a weakening on our military by flying into the Pentagon did not wear uniforms.

Yet you do not believe there was an emergency.

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One of LA's Assistent District Attorneys contracted Typhus, AT City Hall, because of this "It's not an Emergency."

How much Farther does it have to get out of control?

When does the press identify this Non Emergency as the Dem Voter Drive it is?
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One of LA's Assistent District Attorneys contracted Typhus, AT City Hall, because of this "It's not an Emergency."

How much Father does it have to get out of control?

When does the press identify this Non Emergency as the Dem Voter Drive it is?

Obviously, never..... since the press consists of the very same radical leftists that are pushing for that "voter drive".  Oh sure, some just believe all it's doing is getting more Democrat voters. 

But some of the "enemy within leftists"  know what the ultimate 'real' goal is.... to collapse the entire healthcare system and economy so they can: A.  take advantage by taking over, B.  finally get single-payer HC.
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Obviously, never..... since the press consists of the very same radical leftists that are pushing for that "voter drive".  Oh sure, some just believe all it's doing is getting more Democrat voters. 

But some of the "enemy within leftists"  know what the ultimate 'real' goal is.... to collapse the entire healthcare system and economy so they can: A.  take advantage by taking over, B.  finally get single-payer HC.

The leftists use this template for other issues.  Example:  Gun "control."  Issue restrictions, then ignore the restrictions in order to thump the tub for more controls, rinse and repeat until the restrictions are so tight they can confiscate ("grab") the citizens right to self defense.

This is why people who have been adjudicated unable to own a weapon are using "legally" purchased firearms in mass killings, like yesterday.  There have been a lot of mass shootings that have been enabled by politicians refusing to observe the laws already on the books.  It's a simple calculus.

Another example of this:  A loony-toons kid with a record of alcohol poisoning and insanity was allowed to keep his 9mm pistol because his Mommy was a pal of a leftist Sheriff in Tucson AZ, who refused to list the kid as a risk.  As a result a Federal Judge and little girl were killed and a Rat Congresswoman was shot in the face.  This Cloward-Piven strategy worked like a charm in creating martyrs to champion the cause of another round of crackdowns on legal gun owners.  The Rats are still riding that black horse to this day.
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The leftists use this template for other issues.  Example:  Gun "control."  Issue restrictions, then ignore the restrictions in order to thump the tub for more controls, rinse and repeat until the restrictions are so tight they can confiscate ("grab") the citizens right to self defense.

This is why people who have been adjudicated unable to own a weapon are using "legally" purchased firearms in mass killings, like yesterday.  There have been a lot of mass shootings that have been enabled by politicians refusing to observe the laws already on the books.  It's a simple calculus.

Another example of this:  A loony-toons kid with a record of alcohol poisoning and insanity was allowed to keep his 9mm pistol because his Mommy was a pal of a leftist Sheriff in Tucson AZ, who refused to list the kid as a risk.  As a result a Federal Judge and little girl were killed and a Rat Congresswoman was shot in the face.  This Cloward-Piven strategy worked like a charm in creating martyrs to champion the cause of another round of crackdowns on legal gun owners.  The Rats are still riding that black horse to this day.

Exactly.   It's the same old same old pattern of the radical left.   They enact policies that create the problems ...like how Obama/Holder kept police from arresting minors that happened to be black or minority (Treyvon Martin, Brown, Cruz)... and then they "swoop" in to fix the problems they created with more and more restrictions on our freedoms (and more regulations in industry).

I believe/figure that the main reason why this latest shooter was able to get a gun ""legally"" is because of his race/skin color.  It's just more of the same 'kid glove treatment and exceptions' that are left overs from the Obama administration.  Notice how usually, gun-owning whiteys are treated differently now under the "law".
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Exactly.   It's the same old same old pattern of the radical left.   They enact policies that create the problems ...like how Obama/Holder kept police from arresting minors that happened to be black or minority (Treyvon Martin, Brown, Cruz)... and then they "swoop" in to fix the problems they created with more and more restrictions on our freedoms (and more regulations in industry).

I believe/figure that the main reason why this latest shooter was able to get a gun ""legally"" is because of his race/skin color.  It's just more of the same 'kid glove treatment and exceptions' that are left overs from the Obama administration.  Notice how usually, gun-owning whiteys are treated differently now under the "law".

Proof this was deliberate:  Yesterday's shooter was a convicted Felon.  The LEOs did not do due diligence to make sure a legal purchase before the conviction was confiscated.

The result?  A hue and cry to pass more restrictive laws.
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Proof this was deliberate:  Yesterday's shooter was a convicted Felon.  The LEOs did not do due diligence to make sure a legal purchase before the conviction was confiscated.

The result?  A hue and cry to pass more restrictive laws.

Their intent is crystal clear to most of us.  Question is.... with this knowledge... what are we gonna do about it?  What 'can' we do about it?  I'm open to ideas.... :shrug:
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Their intent is crystal clear to most of us.  Question is.... with this knowledge... what are we gonna do about it?  What 'can' we do about it?  I'm open to ideas.... :shrug:

Beats me.  The leftists have the "press" on their side to distort the facts for them.  The Rat rank-and-file lap this stuff up like a cat drinks anti-freeze.
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One of LA's Assistent District Attorneys contracted Typhus, AT City Hall, because of this "It's not an Emergency."

How much Farther does it have to get out of control?

When does the press identify this Non Emergency as the Dem Voter Drive it is?



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Their intent is crystal clear to most of us.  Question is.... with this knowledge... what are we gonna do about it?  What 'can' we do about it?  I'm open to ideas.... :shrug:

Short of dangling a few gun grabbing statists from lampposts? Nothing.

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Their intent is crystal clear to most of us.  Question is.... with this knowledge... what are we gonna do about it?  What 'can' we do about it?  I'm open to ideas.... :shrug:

@XenaLee

I have a suggestion!  How about we stop voting for establishment approved and certified candidates in our primaries?
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@XenaLee

I have a suggestion!  How about we stop voting for establishment approved and certified candidates in our primaries?

Like who?   I voted for Cruz.  You saying he's "establishment approved"???
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Like who?   I voted for Cruz.  You saying he's "establishment approved"???
If you want a list and live in Texas, try the name John Cornyn.

Bigun never said Not to vote for Cruz as you twisted what he said.
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Like who?   I voted for Cruz.  You saying he's "establishment approved"???

Nope!  But there are many here who jumped all over the purposeful destructions of Roy Moore and several others I could name aren't there?
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