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That's 22,000,000,000,000.00

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The national debt surpassed $22 trillion for the first time on Tuesday, a milestone that experts warned is further proof the country is on an unsustainable financial path that could jeopardize the economic security of every American.
The Treasury Department reported the debt hit $22.012 trillion, a jump of more than $30 billion in just this month.
The national debt has been rising at a faster rate following the passage of President Donald Trump’s $1.5 trillion tax-cut package a little more than a year ago and as the result of congressional efforts to increase spending on domestic and military programs. The nation has added more than $1 trillion in the last 11 months alone....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/12/national-debt-tops-22-trillion-first-time-ever/2849978002/



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Need to caption your chart...that is a "debt as a % of GDP" chart I think?

Inflation is going to bite the average American first...now that the Fed has been browbeaten into fewer (or none) interest rate increases.

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Need to caption your chart...that is a "debt as a % of GDP" chart I think?

Inflation is going to bite the average American first...now that the Fed has been browbeaten into fewer (or none) interest rate increases.

Yes, you are correct.

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See this story about a runaway train...

Oh, I thought you meant THIS CA runaway train: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,351290.0.html

(I'll read your Canada version now)
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Nonsense.  The debt will be paid off in another six years.  I have it on good authority from a man who always keeps his promises.
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Once again "all relative"...he is on track for the "25 million new jobs in 10 years" promise, judges/EPA reform are a big plus so far. Would a Ted Cruz have accomplished the same or more in 2 years? Who knows. A real budget (not CR's or another "omnibus") would be nice...even nicer if it was balanced!! **nononono*  All I know is that Ted would have had a tough time beating Hillary, and if Hillary won we would be in tough shape.

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Once again "all relative"...he is on track for the "25 million new jobs in 10 years" promise, judges/EPA reform are a big plus so far. Would a Ted Cruz have accomplished the same or more in 2 years? Who knows. A real budget (not CR's or another "omnibus") would be nice...even nicer if it was balanced!! **nononono*  All I know is that Ted would have had a tough time beating Hillary, and if Hillary won we would be in tough shape.

Not sure why anyone would be impressed by a  POTUS candidate's "promise" of 25 million new jobs in 10 years since POTUS doesn't create jobs and that rate isn't near enough to keep up with population growth.
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The entitlements are starting to bite us on the butt.
The Republic is lost.

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The entitlements are starting to bite us on the butt.

 And yet we have politicians promising even more spending.
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More winning.  *****rollingeyes*****

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People just need to be patient:DEMON-RATS will not vote for US-MCA other great trade deals. Vote Republican, to help our country.
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The verdict is in: Trump's tariffs are working 'bigly'

BY MICHAEL STUMO, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 02/12/19 05:30 PM EST 

U.S. manufacturing is once again in the news. New data shows America’s factories adding 261,000 jobs from January 2018 to January 2019. In the State of the Union, President Trump emphasized the urgency of confronting predatory trade from countries like China.

There’s no doubt that America’s manufacturers are currently rebounding. The tariffs that President Trump imposed a year ago on steel, aluminum, solar panels and washing machines have already created more than 11,000 new jobs.

These new gigs include those in steel mills being announced by Nucor, Steel Dynamics and others. There’s also roughly a dozen companies planning new solar panel manufacturing facilities in Florida, Maryland and Oregon.

Even U.S. car companies are doing well at home. Ford’s North American operations posted a $2 billion profit in the fourth quarter, while GM’s North American net income topped $3 billion. Major steel consumers like Caterpillar and United Technologies have also reported strong results for 2018.

Despite this, critics of the tariffs still abound, particularly among large retailers claiming the tariffs will necessarily lead to price increases.

But that’s not what’s happening. Prices for new cars — which contain plenty of steel — remain steady. And the price of aluminum-canned beer is also rising at less than the rate of inflation.

America’s consumers simply aren’t seeing any major price increases from the tariffs, and core inflation has remained low at 2.2 percent. But industrial users of steel and aluminum haven’t seen price jumps either.

After a short-term increase in the summer, steel prices have actually fallen back to the levels of last January and February — before the tariffs even took effect. And federal data shows the Producer Price Index rising a cumulative 2.5 percent in 2018, exactly the same as it did in 2017.

U.S. industrial production has continued to climb throughout 2018, though, including a 7.8 percent increase in one of the heaviest metal-using sectors, motor vehicle and parts manufacturing.

These are all strong numbers, and they help to explain why U.S. manufacturing added so many jobs in 2018 — the sector’s best showing since the Great Recession.

Why aren’t the tariffs causing all of the headaches that were predicted? Because manufacturers are simply absorbing any cost increases along the way.

A Seattle startup, Rad Power Bikes, just announced it will return bicycle prices to pre-tariff levels. The company explains that, by working with vendors and diversifying production, it is lowering prices. In fact, the company’s founders have offered to refund the extra $200 that customers had paid in 2018.

Because the U.S. maintains the largest, most affluent market in the world, Chinese exporters would rather reduce prices than lose access to U.S. consumers. Chinese producers earn huge profits on their American sales, thanks to labor averaging $3.60 an hour labor and government-subsidized steel and aluminum.

Because their costs are much cheaper, Chinese producers have always priced products high enough to earn large profits. But with the tariffs, those margins are finally shrinking.

The net result of the tariffs is that the U.S. economy is better off. Consumers pay the same for many imported goods, U.S. producers enjoy more competitive margins, and the U.S. Treasury gains extra income from tariff revenues.

Of course, there’s the irony of critics like the Wall Street Journal attacking the tariffs for delivering high prices and profits to major U.S. steel companies. And they express concern for the profit-sharing bonus that Ford employees lost when the company paid more for steel and aluminum in 2018.

But the tariffs are intended to save good-paying jobs in America’s steel and aluminum sectors — jobs that have been under attack for years from dumped, government-subsidized Chinese steel and aluminum.

Wall Street could have expressed concern for America’s workers years ago, when China’s predatory behavior and outright technology theft became apparent. After all, such cheating absolutely violates free markets and free trade. And it has taken a heavy toll on U.S. industry.

Strong medicine such as tariffs is simply a necessary recourse in hard times. And as America’s manufacturing resurgence in 2018 demonstrates, it’s working. Now, President Trump should follow through, by raising the tariffs to 25 percent, as originally planned — to curtail China’s cheating and spur more manufacturing job growth.

Michael Stumo is CEO of the Coalition for a Prosperous America (CPA), which advocates on behalf of U.S. farmers and manufacturers.

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Once again "all relative"...he is on track for the "25 million new jobs in 10 years" promise, judges/EPA reform are a big plus so far. Would a Ted Cruz have accomplished the same or more in 2 years? Who knows. A real budget (not CR's or another "omnibus") would be nice...even nicer if it was balanced!! **nononono*  All I know is that Ted would have had a tough time beating Hillary, and if Hillary won we would be in tough shape.


No, Drago on your question. NO, PROFESSIONAL politician would have achieved anything.  Same for Rand Paul. All they do it 'talk".  This is their living..B.S.' ing we the people. President TRUMP is totally unique and NOT a professional politician, THAT is why, things are getting done.   WWW.MAGAPILL.COM

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Need to caption your chart...that is a "debt as a % of GDP" chart I think?

Inflation is going to bite the average American first...now that the Fed has been browbeaten into fewer (or none) interest rate increases.


That was a sabotage by BANKERS to stop job growth.  To harm presidents good works.

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I see it more like sabotage by politicians trying to keep the "gravy train" going...if rates "normalize" (4%-5% for Fed Funds rate and 8%-10% for the Prime rate) the interest on the debt kills the federal budget.  Artificially low rates held too low for far too long have cost my family 10's of thousands of $$.  President Trump should be proud of the need to raise rates to prevent inflation, it means he has a good economy with full employment. Holding the Fed Funds rate at the current 2.5% is admission that the economy is shaky...Main Street before Wall Street!

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 Conservatives, who were up in arms and protesting when the debt was going rapidly up under Obama, should not be giving this president a pass on it. This debt will result in  weaker economic growth  to say nothing of inflation for a future generation.

 Now he’s talking about a national family leave on top of it. That may be why they’re not raising interest rates to where they should be. The entitlement programs, especially, are growing faster than our economy

 If investors start getting nervous that we won’t be able to pay them back, they may still invest in US debt but they’ll demand things like higher interest rates.  Then the economy that people are cheering now will quickly weaken
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The entitlements are starting to bite us on the butt.

Starting to?
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Conservatives, who were up in arms and protesting when the debt was going rapidly up under Obama, should not be giving this president a pass on it.

THIS Conservative isn't.
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Hmmmm


Where'd ya'll go?


Kicked to the curb.  The GOP Establishment won out big time at the last GOP Convention.  Any voice the TEA Party had was effectively silenced by the Trump (i.e. Establishment) delegates.  The Trump sycophants now tell us the debt is meaningless and nothing to worry about.
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Kicked to the curb.  The GOP Establishment won out big time at the last GOP Convention.  Any voice the TEA Party had was effectively silenced by the Trump (i.e. Establishment) delegates.  The Trump sycophants now tell us the debt is meaningless and nothing to worry about.

 But none of that should stop the TEA Party  from being out and having rallies against the spending like they did when Obama was president.

 There isn’t a lot that a sitting president can actively do about the spending except VETO spending bills.  The biggest driver of our debt is the mandatory spending. That’s something that Congress only can take care of

I looked up WWW.MAGAPILL.COM  and nothing was mentioned about this new debt  under Trump’s watch
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There isn’t a lot that a sitting president can actively do about the spending except VETO spending bills.

He could simply not spend.   Government departments do it all the time.  Look at how much money is in the EPA Superfund.  More gets put there every year.  But they don't spend it on cleaning up superfund sites.  (See:  Coldwater Creek)

The power of the Executive Branch is to enforce (or not enforce) the law.  It is all part of the balance of powers.
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But none of that should stop the TEA Party  from being out and having rallies against the spending like they did when Obama was president.

We are still meeting, and still working hard on state and local levels, just as we have... Plotting sedition, no doubt, according to Tumpsters...