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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2019, 02:52:48 pm »
Some more reading material:

An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

His 10 year analysis at link above.

Thanks for sharing that info.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2019, 03:01:32 pm »
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Some more reading material:

An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

His 10 year analysis at link above.

Excellent information @Elderberry!  Confirms what we all already know really.  Proficiency is FAR more important than the round used.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2019, 06:17:31 pm »
Excellent information @Elderberry!  Confirms what we all already know really.  Proficiency is FAR more important than the round used.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2019, 08:11:50 pm »
What @Cyber Liberty said, welcome @JonBoyAZ

As mentioned above, 10mm is probably well suited for outdoors/trail duty here in the lower 48 but otherwise a bit much for daily carry.  Often guys who insist on 10mm are compensating for something (and in my thinking it's more a lack of female companionship than actual physical shortcomings). 

If you absolutely must have a 10mm, the new Rock Island 1911's are inexpensive and comparatively reliable.  There are better out there to be sure but you'll pay the 10mm premium on top of the brand et.al. premium.

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I have 3 different 1911's in 45ACP,including one old Combat Commander Colt that I built up that will handle special loads I cooked up that will turn a stock Colt into scrap. GI Ball ammo won't even cycle the slide far enough to jam.

One is a slightly turned up stocker I mostly shoot 200 grain semi-wadcutters in,and the last one is tuned for accuracy and also gets the 200 grain SWC's or standared 230 grain ball loads.

For the life of me I just can't think of why I would need a 10mm.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2019, 08:19:19 pm »
@Meldrew speaking of Rock Island...my favorite LGS back in Kentucky has the RIA 10mm for $399 right now.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2019, 08:21:12 pm »
Ok let's think of the 10mm in a different way...so it might now be the best round for a carry gun...but what about in rifle form...say a 10mm pistol caliber carbine for home/campsite defense?

Do the same problems/issues hold true if that 10mm is coming out of a 16 1/2" barrel?
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2019, 08:33:37 pm »
Still don't need it. My M1 Carbine and Win 1200 12 ga cover my needs. Unless I need to step up to long range firepower. That's covered as well.

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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2019, 08:34:20 pm »
Ok let's think of the 10mm in a different way...so it might now be the best round for a carry gun...but what about in rifle form...say a 10mm pistol caliber carbine for home/campsite defense?

Do the same problems/issues hold true if that 10mm is coming out of a 16 1/2" barrel?

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My OPINION is that for a camp gun,you need more powder capacity to take advantage of the bore diameter. Yeah,it would be fine against 2-legged predators,but even some of the smaller fur-bearing predators can be a lot harder to stop than a sub-human.

IMNSHO,if you are going to carry a rifle or carbine,make sure it is chambered for a rifle cartridge.

The Marlin lever action in 444 or 45/70 is a pretty damn slick and effective carbine.

I have been out of the gun business for so long I no longer know what is available,but there might be a semi-auto carbine you like in one of those or a similar caliber. Think "big,heavy,and slow". You want slow so it doesn't over-penetrate.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
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Think "big,heavy,and slow". You want slow so it doesn't over-penetrate.

The reason I carry the heaviest grain personal defense rounds I can.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2019, 08:55:39 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I have 3 different 1911's in 45ACP,including one old Combat Commander Colt that I built up that will handle special loads I cooked up that will turn a stock Colt into scrap. GI Ball ammo won't even cycle the slide far enough to jam.

One is a slightly turned up stocker I mostly shoot 200 grain semi-wadcutters in,and the last one is tuned for accuracy and also gets the 200 grain SWC's or standared 230 grain ball loads.

For the life of me I just can't think of why I would need a 10mm.

Seems like a "Bastard Size," sort of like a 13/32" hex bolt.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2019, 09:17:15 pm »
@txradioguy

My OPINION is that for a camp gun,you need more powder capacity to take advantage of the bore diameter. Yeah,it would be fine against 2-legged predators,but even some of the smaller fur-bearing predators can be a lot harder to stop than a sub-human.

IMNSHO,if you are going to carry a rifle or carbine,make sure it is chambered for a rifle cartridge.

The Marlin lever action in 444 or 45/70 is a pretty damn slick and effective carbine.

I have been out of the gun business for so long I no longer know what is available,but there might be a semi-auto carbine you like in one of those or a similar caliber. Think "big,heavy,and slow". You want slow so it doesn't over-penetrate.
I have a marlin in .44 Rem Magnum, pistol and rifle make a nice combo. Rounds loaded for the rifle work well in the pistol, although the pistol (Ruger Super Blackhawk) can actually handle hotter loads.

Fully loaded, the Marlin holds 10 rounds.
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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2019, 12:06:58 am »
I have a marlin in .44 Rem Magnum, pistol and rifle make a nice combo. Rounds loaded for the rifle work well in the pistol, although the pistol (Ruger Super Blackhawk) can actually handle hotter loads.

Fully loaded, the Marlin holds 10 rounds.

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Yeah,I see no good reason why that won't work for you.

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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2019, 07:56:01 pm »
I always wanted to get a companion rifle for my 45LC Ruger Blackhawk, but I already had a Marlin 45-70. The Marlin has gone thru several hunters. Two were brothers that I knew from elementary school. After I got it, I was constantly loaning it out. Finally it developed the "Marlin Jam".

I followed the repair instructions at this site and its back in action: http://www.ktgunsmith.com/marlinjam.htm

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Re: IS THE 10MM EVERYTHING IT’S CRACKED UP TO BE?
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2019, 09:22:07 pm »
I always wanted to get a companion rifle for my 45LC Ruger Blackhawk, but I already had a Marlin 45-70. The Marlin has gone thru several hunters. Two were brothers that I knew from elementary school. After I got it, I was constantly loaning it out. Finally it developed the "Marlin Jam".

I followed the repair instructions at this site and its back in action: http://www.ktgunsmith.com/marlinjam.htm
Thanks for that link!
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