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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #525 on: July 11, 2019, 01:11:44 am »
From the last article I posted.

It took 500,000 distinct words from those abstracts

500,000 "distinct" words? In a particular field of scientific research?

I don't care what planet you are from. That is a huge amount of "distinct" words.

I'm not sure (highly doubt) there are 500,000 distinct words in the English language.
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« Reply #527 on: July 11, 2019, 01:31:28 am »
I'm not sure (highly doubt) there are 500,000 distinct words in the English language.

I have read a number of scientific papers, and I could go with 5,000 but not half a million.  Even if they meant "words and phrases".


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« Reply #528 on: July 11, 2019, 01:33:47 am »
I'm not sure (highly doubt) there are 500,000 distinct words in the English language.

I'll take a SWAG (Scientific Wild Assed Guess) and say you are correct.

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« Reply #529 on: July 11, 2019, 02:14:44 am »
I have read a number of scientific papers, and I could go with 5,000 but not half a million.  Even if they meant "words and phrases".

Creative accounting...

And Joe is a cop...sooo... when I told him I am sending you a mimeograph stencil duplication facsimile by telecommunications and he said just the facts, ma'am, that got my goat so I hit him with my rubber snake.
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« Reply #530 on: July 11, 2019, 02:31:48 am »
Creative accounting...

And Joe is a cop...sooo... when I told him I am sending you a mimeograph stencil duplication facsimile by telecommunications and he said just the facts, ma'am, that got my goat so I hit him with my rubber snake.

See - they are cute, aren't they?

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« Reply #531 on: July 11, 2019, 02:46:13 am »
See - they are cute, aren't they?

And scrumptious.
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« Reply #532 on: July 11, 2019, 07:11:10 am »
In my case, it is long and painful personal experience with these creatures that I'm not going to go into here.  No peacocks and no goats!  MIGHT make an exception for some pigmy goats but would have to think hard about even that.
Get the kind you can shout at and have stop right there... :silly:
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« Reply #533 on: July 11, 2019, 07:12:49 am »
I can see me getting pulled over and trying to explain that. "But, officer, Joe told me to do it". 

 :silly:
Might make "Live PD"! :silly:
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« Reply #534 on: July 11, 2019, 07:13:49 am »
Now there's a great idea! Never thought of that.
Folks have always told me to breed em myself...
But I don't know... Just one vid hits the youtubes and...  **nononono* :whistle:

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Yeah, just one goat, and you know what all the town folks would call you.... 888mouth
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« Reply #535 on: July 11, 2019, 07:15:09 am »
I'm not sure (highly doubt) there are 500,000 distinct words in the English language.
Oh yeah! Get an unabridged dictionary....
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« Reply #536 on: July 11, 2019, 07:30:34 am »
Creative accounting...

And Joe is a cop...sooo... when I told him I am sending you a mimeograph stencil duplication facsimile by telecommunications and he said just the facts, ma'am, that got my goat so I hit him with my rubber snake.
Nope. Not me. That's 'my man' Friday, the one with the Quaalude badge number (714).

(I always wondered why he seemed so calm)
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« Reply #537 on: July 11, 2019, 11:43:45 am »
500,000 "distinct" words? In a particular field of scientific research?

I wonder if that list includes many languages.  Otherwise that is more words than english has in total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dictionaries_by_number_of_words
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« Reply #538 on: July 11, 2019, 12:30:39 pm »
I wonder if that list includes many languages.  Otherwise that is more words than english has in total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dictionaries_by_number_of_words

I thought about that. And I already looked at your link.
But, by my definition, or understanding, even if you use the word "steel" in six different languages they aren't distinct from each other because they all mean the same thing.
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« Reply #539 on: July 11, 2019, 01:22:12 pm »
In my case, it is long and painful personal experience with these creatures that I'm not going to go into here.  No peacocks and no goats!  MIGHT make an exception for some pigmy goats but would have to think hard about even that.


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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #540 on: July 11, 2019, 02:28:30 pm »
I have read a number of scientific papers, and I could go with 5,000 but not half a million.  Even if they meant "words and phrases".

Well, I ain't sayin she's all that, but according to Google Assistant, using the second edition of the Oxford dictionary, the english language contains 171,476 words in current use, and 47,156 obsolete words...
That doesn't include redneck variations (which Google Assistant can't even understand) though...
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #542 on: July 11, 2019, 02:50:43 pm »
LOL!!! Thanks @Polly Ticks

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« Reply #543 on: July 11, 2019, 02:55:32 pm »
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I'm a fellow sufferer, so welcome to the club!!

Well, in my case it's not what you think!   

When I was a kid someone (one of my relatives likely) dumped a young billy at our place. He was fun for a while but, over time, he became a REAL nuisance and I wanted to take him out . I mean REALLY take him out as in kill him!  Never did but I sure wanted to.  Never have had that much hatred for an animal again.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #544 on: July 11, 2019, 10:13:52 pm »
I wonder if that list includes many languages.  Otherwise that is more words than english has in total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dictionaries_by_number_of_words
According to Wiki, there are 470,000 'accepted' English words. I wonder if that includes slang and other variants.
I would think it wouldn't be hard to come up with another 30,000.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #545 on: July 12, 2019, 12:01:41 am »
According to Wiki, there are 470,000 'accepted' English words. I wonder if that includes slang and other variants.
I would think it wouldn't be hard to come up with another 30,000.

Right. But they are claiming 500,000 distinct words.

This a scientific paper you are writing/reading. Not some fairytale...oh...wait...



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« Reply #546 on: July 12, 2019, 08:06:17 pm »
Right. But they are claiming 500,000 distinct words.

This a scientific paper you are writing/reading. Not some fairytale...oh...wait...
Well, considering most folks only use some 1% of that, they likely wouldn't miss the other 30,000. Between Madison Avenue, the Mass Media, and government bureaucrats, it's likely they will invent that many in the next year or so, anyway.

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« Reply #547 on: July 12, 2019, 08:12:08 pm »
Well, considering most folks only use some 1% of that, they likely wouldn't miss the other 30,000. Between Madison Avenue, the Mass Media, and government bureaucrats, it's likely they will invent that many in the next year or so, anyway.

Can anybody explain to me the difference between "distinct" and "unique?"
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #548 on: July 13, 2019, 03:30:09 am »
To err is human.

With very little training, but many iterations...

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« Reply #549 on: July 13, 2019, 08:24:11 am »
Can anybody explain to me the difference between "distinct" and "unique?"
Distinct is recognizable, but not the only of its kind.
Unique isn't something you can really compare, because there is only one.
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