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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #325 on: March 04, 2019, 10:42:50 PM »
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But that isn't the problem there. They are just plain weird.

That's almost an understatement.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #326 on: March 04, 2019, 11:17:35 PM »
That's almost an understatement.

Don't mention the breath....
We need to re-coin the expression, "Press Bias" to "Media Bigotry."
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« Reply #327 on: March 05, 2019, 07:37:34 AM »
Don't mention the breath....

I heard they eat garlic like it is candy.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #328 on: March 05, 2019, 08:32:39 AM »

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« Reply #329 on: March 05, 2019, 11:33:27 AM »
I heard they eat garlic like it is candy.

Yup.
We need to re-coin the expression, "Press Bias" to "Media Bigotry."
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #330 on: March 06, 2019, 09:21:43 AM »
Controlling AI Weapons May Be Impossible, Warns Former US Secretary of State

https://futurism.com/the-byte/controlling-ai-weapons-impossible

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AI arms control is all “fun and games” until someone accidentally recreates Skynet.

When looking to the future we can’t ignore the possibility of a potential artificial intelligence arms race as nations rush to outpace one another. That’s exactly the sort of future that former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is afraid of. Speaking last Thursday at a three-day event celebrating the opening of a new school of computing at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Kissinger warned that AI weapons might become harder to control than nuclear ones. Such systems will be developed in secrecy leading to a dangerous arms race, as Kissinger said according to MIT Tech Review, “With AI, the other side’s ignorance is one of your best weapons—sharing will be much more difficult.”

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #331 on: March 06, 2019, 10:56:54 AM »
Skynet is active, Mr. Connor....
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #332 on: March 06, 2019, 11:24:45 AM »
Skynet is active, Mr. Connor....

I was watching a vid where they were using very high resolution satellite cameras that could help identify a person by the shape of their head, the type of clothes they wore, the car they were driving, etc. Analyzing people from the top down.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #333 on: March 06, 2019, 06:46:43 PM »
This is the worst of the worst. This is what will be the end of humanity. THIS is why I am a Luddite.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,352885.0.html

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Japan: Robot modelled after Buddhist deity gives its first speech
 
The humanoid robot is modeled after Kannon Bodhisattva, the Buddhist Goddess of Mercy. The robot’s name is Mindar and it gave its first speech on the Heart Sutra, a key scripture in Buddhist teaching. The Japan Times reported that the teachings spoken by the robot offer a path to "overcome all fear, destroy all wrong perceptions and realise perfect nirvana.”

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #334 on: March 06, 2019, 07:00:22 PM »
Apropos of nothing

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« Reply #335 on: March 06, 2019, 09:47:10 PM »
I was watching a vid where they were using very high resolution satellite cameras that could help identify a person by the shape of their head, the type of clothes they wore, the car they were driving, etc. Analyzing people from the top down.
The CIA used to be able to tell which of the Soviet big bosses were in town by their golf bags.. that was years ago. The resolution has only improved.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #336 on: March 07, 2019, 09:37:45 AM »
OpenAI withholds its latest research fearing societal impact

https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/2019/02/15/openai-latest-research-societal-impact/

OpenAI has decided not to publish its latest research fearing its potential misuses and the negative societal impact that would have.

The institute, backed by the likes of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, developed an AI which can produce convincing ‘fake news’ articles.

Articles produced by the AI writer can be on any subject and merely require a brief prompt before it gets to work unsupervised.

The AI scrapes data from ~8 million webpages and solely looks at those posted to Reddit with a ‘karma’ of three or more. That check means the article resonated with some users, although for what reason it cannot be sure.

Often, the resulting text – generated word-by-word – is coherent but fabricated. That even includes ‘quotes’ used in the article.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #337 on: March 07, 2019, 10:02:02 AM »
OpenAI withholds its latest research fearing societal impact

https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/2019/02/15/openai-latest-research-societal-impact/

OpenAI has decided not to publish its latest research fearing its potential misuses and the negative societal impact that would have.

The institute, backed by the likes of Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, developed an AI which can produce convincing ‘fake news’ articles.

Articles produced by the AI writer can be on any subject and merely require a brief prompt before it gets to work unsupervised.

The AI scrapes data from ~8 million webpages and solely looks at those posted to Reddit with a ‘karma’ of three or more. That check means the article resonated with some users, although for what reason it cannot be sure.

Often, the resulting text – generated word-by-word – is coherent but fabricated. That even includes ‘quotes’ used in the article.

IOW, AI is catching up on CNN and MSNBC.  I'd be worried if I was a reporter, too.
We need to re-coin the expression, "Press Bias" to "Media Bigotry."
I will NOT comply.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #338 on: March 07, 2019, 02:37:47 PM »
I'll prolly get one of these  ****slapping for this. So be it.

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We're seeing an exponential growth in all machines and innovations
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #339 on: March 07, 2019, 08:43:06 PM »
Amazon is coming out with a robot, Amazon Vesta. IMO it will probably be the most advanced home robot we've ever seen.

Of course, I've been wrong about these things before.

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« Reply #340 on: March 07, 2019, 08:45:23 PM »
The sidebrush on my Roomba 650 stopped moving and a replacement part didn't work either. From Google, it seems it's probably motherboard damage. So I bought a Roomba 675. I wanted an I7 but my wife would have killed me to spend that much.

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

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« Reply #341 on: March 07, 2019, 08:48:49 PM »

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:

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« Reply #342 on: March 07, 2019, 08:59:16 PM »
Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #343 on: March 07, 2019, 09:00:58 PM »
The sidebrush on my Roomba 650 stopped moving and a replacement part didn't work either. From Google, it seems it's probably motherboard damage. So I bought a Roomba 675. I wanted an I7 but my wife would have killed me to spend that much.

The 675 does a good job on our floors.

I don't have a problem with ANI robots. They are developing robots that can pick crops. You get a robot that can pick broccoli and strawberries there wouldn't be any huge need to have people coming over the border to do those jobs Americans won't.

It is when you start applying AGI to control people that I have the problem. That is what their ultimate goal is. A police surveillance state (IMO). And ASI will be the worst because I don't think they can control it. They might not be able to control AGI yet. What we read in the news is all old hat.

The thing is is that whoever wins the AI race could rule the cyber world. Which is about the whole damn pie.

Cybersecurity is really going to be a problem. I posted an article here.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,353865.msg1933891.html#msg1933891

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« Reply #344 on: March 07, 2019, 09:05:24 PM »
Po'boy carpet!

LOL!
That's right
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And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #345 on: March 07, 2019, 09:05:33 PM »
I don't have a problem with ANI robots. They are developing robots that can pick crops. You get a robot that can pick broccoli and strawberries there wouldn't be any huge need to have people coming over the border to do those jobs Americans won't.

It is when you start applying AGI to control people that I have the problem. That is what their ultimate goal is. A police surveillance state (IMO). And ASI will be the worst because I don't think they can control it. They might not be able to control AGI yet. What we read in the news is all old hat.

The thing is is that whoever wins the AI race could rule the cyber world. Which is about the whole damn pie.

Cybersecurity is really going to be a problem. I posted an article here.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,353865.msg1933891.html#msg1933891

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #346 on: March 07, 2019, 09:14:16 PM »
LOL!
That's right
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And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...

...in a fancy Las Vegas hotel room...don't ask me how I know that...

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« Reply #347 on: March 07, 2019, 09:16:32 PM »
...in a fancy Las Vegas hotel room...don't ask me how I know that...

Woudn't know... Fancy to me is the Motel 6  :shrug:

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« Reply #348 on: March 07, 2019, 09:18:22 PM »
LOL!
That's right
 :beer:

And lets not talk about legos and matchbox cars... Or rebuilding a turbo-350 on the coffee table...
Or a 650 Norton in the living room....
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #349 on: March 08, 2019, 04:41:21 AM »
Not with a shedding Malamute in the house.  :laugh:

I have 2 cats, one a tabby and one fluffy that sheds a lot. The downstairs roomba 530 has lasted since I bought it in 2008, it still gets the floor clean. Every few weeks I have to take off the side brush and unwind hairs.

Basically all I do is press 2 buttons. Beats vacuuming.


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