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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #700 on: July 30, 2019, 09:21:18 am »
Yes! Repeatedly.  And, the people at that number have no idea that their number was spoofed.
They are good enough here that they use numbers which have been disconnected.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #701 on: July 30, 2019, 09:23:12 am »
I suppress mine. I understand it enough to reject it. And when the time comes I'll switch from hammer to hack it. To death.

In a way, a self-driving car would be a great gift compared to the number of people who have a driver's license but shouldn't.
Only if it could drive better. The bad drivers can be a self-correcting problem, unfortunately, they tend to take others with them.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #702 on: July 30, 2019, 09:25:08 am »
The good cyber dystopian literature has plenty of examples.  I’ll try to remember some of the authors when I get home.
Larry Niven Tales of Known Space (the Tasp)
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #703 on: August 02, 2019, 12:26:42 am »
Human brains outdated? 'Inventive’ AI making abstract art just filed for two PATENTS

Published time: 1 Aug, 2019 22:50

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiEt6Ck9uLjAhXC7Z4KHVYyCoMQFjABegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fnews%2F465607-artificial-intelligence-patents-inventions%2F&usg=AOvVaw0qs8WdRdIWvDVxqKM3Stap

 A team of academics has filed two patents on behalf of an artificial intelligence program, which they say is the real brains behind their inventions. The development could disrupt intellectual property law the world over.

Known as the “device for the autonomous bootstrapping of unified sentience,” (DABUS), the system sits on the cutting edge of AI tech, capable of “inventive acts,” as well as what lowly organic lifeforms might call “creativity.”

After DABUS started inventing new products – designing a special interlocking food container easily grasped by industrial robots, and a unique emergency warning light – the system’s creator, Stephen Thaler, decided it was time to file for patents.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #704 on: August 02, 2019, 12:32:10 am »
If you go to Europe and have the time, visit the Vincent Van Gogh Museum.

Pretty sure you can go right in. (Been a few years since I was there).

Wait time to visit the Heinekin Brewery will be hours. Even if you get there early.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #705 on: August 02, 2019, 12:43:03 am »
"Have you ever noticed the popularity of white robots? The reason for these shades of technological white may be racism, according to new research," CNN tweeted.

Uh huh

Horseshit.

There is ONLY ONE RACE. THE HUMAN RACE.

Be one or GTFO.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #706 on: August 02, 2019, 12:53:16 am »
 https://designshack.net/articles/graphics/the-science-behind-color-and-emotion/

The Science Behind Color and Emotion

Color resonates with people in different ways. We all have a favorite color or color that we use more during specific periods of life. But the color you use in a design project can say a lot about the work itself. That’s a scientific fact.

The science behind our emotional connections to color is a complicated one. But it is becoming more clear through anecdotal knowledge and scientific experimentation. Here are five hypotheses

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Color Impacts Intuition
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #707 on: August 02, 2019, 12:57:58 am »
I was fully expecting to not like the art @bigheadfred, but some of it is intriguing. 

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #708 on: August 02, 2019, 12:59:18 am »
There has been study after study by private industry, the Alphabet Agencies, the Military.

Sensory deprivation. Sensory overload.

Cats and cucumbers redux II.

My dad used to say that one day all people would be the same color:  Dirty Mouse Gray.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #709 on: August 02, 2019, 01:01:34 am »
I was fully expecting to not like the art @bigheadfred, but some of it is intriguing.

You looking at pics of paintings? Or have you been over there?
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #711 on: August 02, 2019, 01:12:44 am »
Fred, this, from the article:


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« Reply #712 on: August 02, 2019, 02:07:31 am »
Fred, this, from the article:

There is a "sameness" to all of them "in toto". Do you see it?

Does life imitate art? Or does art imitate life?

Joke: At the National Art Gallery in Dublin, a husband and wife were staring at the portrait that had them completely confused. The painting depicted 3 black men totally naked, sitting on a bench. Two of the figures had black penises, but the one in the middle had a pink penis.

The curator of the gallery realized that they were having trouble
interpreting the painting and offered his personal assessment. He
went on for over half an hour explaining how it depicted the sexual…
emasculation of African Americans in a predominately white,
patriarchal society. “In fact”, he said, “some serious critics
believe that the pink penis also reflects cultural and sociological
oppression experienced by gay men in contemporary society”.

After the curator left, an Irishman approached the couple and said,
“Would you like to know what the painting is really about?”

“Now why would you claim to be more of an expert than the curator of the gallery”, asked the couple?

“Because I am the artist, who painted the picture,” he replied. “In
fact, there are no African Americans depicted at all. They’re just
three Irish coal miners. The guy in the middle went home for lunch.”

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #713 on: August 02, 2019, 02:39:31 am »
Graphic warning.

I can take one of my drawings: 18" x 24"


https://imgur.com/cDYs2JO

And manipulate it with CG:


https://imgur.com/r0R8H5I




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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #714 on: August 02, 2019, 04:09:19 am »
Graphic warning.

I can take one of my drawings: 18" x 24"


https://imgur.com/cDYs2JO

And manipulate it with CG:


https://imgur.com/r0R8H5I

I always liked that drawing.  Great pencil work!
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #715 on: August 02, 2019, 09:46:59 am »
CNN Warns About Robot Racism

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/08/01/oh-good-grief-cnn-warns-about-robot-racism-n2551082

TownHall by Timothy Meads 8/1/2019
Leaks show up better on the white robots than on the black ones. Ditto scorch marks and smoke stains.

Seems there is a practical reason for that "whiteness".
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #716 on: August 02, 2019, 10:30:37 am »
Leaks show up better on the white robots than on the black ones. Ditto scorch marks and smoke stains.

Seems there is a practical reason for that "whiteness".

Holdonnow... Are we talkin about robots or underpants here??

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« Reply #717 on: August 02, 2019, 12:24:32 pm »
Holdonnow... Are we talkin about robots or underpants here??

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These people may have the answer.

cache of https://www.pewresearch.org/

Pew Research Center
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #718 on: August 02, 2019, 05:36:26 pm »
These people may have the answer.

cache of https://www.pewresearch.org/

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #719 on: August 03, 2019, 02:49:59 am »
Holdonnow... Are we talkin about robots or underpants here??

 :silly:
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Underpants?
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #721 on: August 03, 2019, 10:41:04 am »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/artcarden/2011/07/14/underpants-gnomes-political-economy/
Still doesn't explain why coloring the machine so as to make fluid leaks or scorch marks more evident is "racist", when other colors would make impending problems and possibly fatal malfunctions more difficult to detect in a timely fashion.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #722 on: August 03, 2019, 12:42:41 pm »
CNN Warns About Robot Racism

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/08/01/oh-good-grief-cnn-warns-about-robot-racism-n2551082

TownHall by Timothy Meads 8/1/2019

@Elderberry

I guess that this means,according to CNN dogma,that black robots tend to pull surprise attacks on white robots if they outnumber them by at least 5 to 1,can only be programmed to perform simple tasks,and prefer to just stay at home in the closet while plugged into their power source?

Oh,and their music sucks.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #723 on: August 03, 2019, 12:45:58 pm »
Leaks show up better on the white robots than on the black ones. Ditto scorch marks and smoke stains.

Seems there is a practical reason for that "whiteness".

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White attracts less heat,too. Granted,this was more important in the past than it is now,but I am sure it is still an engineering concern.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #724 on: August 03, 2019, 01:18:51 pm »
White absorbs less heat than black when in the sun. Black radiates more of its internally generated heat than white. So a black robot would operate cooler than a white one when not in the sun.

@Elderberry

I am not sure it makes any difference these days due to technological advances since the days of tubes.
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